---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/31/03: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:15 AM - Re: N2774B (Barry Collman) 2. 07:51 AM - Re: Fuel Flow/totaliser on 520/560 (css nico) 3. 08:31 AM - Re: N2774B (MOEMILLS@aol.com) 4. 08:35 AM - Re: Fuel Flow/totaliser on 520/560 (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 5. 09:55 AM - Re: N2774B (Barry Collman) 6. 09:59 AM - Re: N2774B (JBOBSTER@aol.com) 7. 04:15 PM - Re: N2774B (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 8. 05:14 PM - Re: N2774B (Chris Schuermann) 9. 07:37 PM - Re: N2774B (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 10. 07:48 PM - Re: 560 Brakes (Leon Stovall) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:08 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: N2774B MAILER-TRACE: 0 --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi CommanderLanders! The Commander 560A on eBay (N2774B) was orginally Certificated in December 1955, with 275HP GO-480-D1A engines. In September 1967 it was up-graded to a Model 560A(HC), by installing 295HP GO-480-G1B6 engines. The eBay narrative implies it has 275HP GSO-480 engines. These are Supercharged and I have no record of them being fitted to this 560A, although it is of course possible. Aircraft's serial number is 274, currently registered to Frank G Welch, of Woodinville, Washington. I haven't been 'around' for a while. Firstly, AOL blacklisted the server I use for email. My ISP then set up a new server to circumvent this problem in mid-November. When I got the email facility back, I could receive email, but not send any! At long last, the problem was fixed yesterday! Anyway, I hope you all had a really nice Christmas, and I send all Best Wishes for 2004. Very Best Regards, Barry Collman ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:59 AM PST US From: "css nico" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fuel Flow/totaliser on 520/560 --> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" A happy and very prosperous new year to you all. I had a great time listing with fellow commanders. We pretty much had one of the worst years in our business' 29 years existence, but the cause for celebration is that we are all still healthy and managed to keep the doors open and some of the lights on. There has been a roof over our heads and food on our plates. So, all was not bad. With 2004 at the door, it appears to have a good glow in the cheeks. I cannot but thank our Lord for the blessings and the refinement that came from affliction. And, of course, that we have a president who had the cahoneys to lower taxes when not many believed it will make a difference. For what it is worth, he has my vote for many more tax-lowering in the new year. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "bruce campbell" Subject: Commander-List: Fuel Flow/totaliser on 520/560 > --> Commander-List message posted by: "bruce campbell" > > Like to be able to maximise 86B's on-station time. Therefore, it would be > "really" nice to be able to totalise my fuel accurately. My last foray in > this yielded a "no-hgo" on the whole idea, but it seems to me someone is > using a fuel totaliser on a 520/560/560A/560e or whatever already. > > > Anyone have any input on what seems to be the hot set up? > > > Bruce Campbell > N4186B AC52 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:40 AM PST US From: MOEMILLS@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: N2774B --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com Barry, We leave tonight and will see you as planed Friday. Looking foreword to seeing you and Elaine. Best regards, Moe & Linn N680RR ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:10 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fuel Flow/totaliser on 520/560 --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/31/2003 7:52:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, nico@cybersuperstore.com writes: With 2004 at the door, it appears to have a good glow in the cheeks. I cannot but thank our Lord for the blessings and the refinement that came from affliction. And, of course, that we have a president who had the cahoneys to lower taxes when not many believed it will make a difference. For what it is worth, he has my vote for many more tax-lowering in the new AMEN!! Thanks for sharing Nico. I pray you will have a prosperous new year in the Lord. jb ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:03 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: N2774B MAILER-TRACE: 0 --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Moe, I hope you and Linn have a safe, enjoyable flight and we are really looking forward to seeing you both on Friday. If you could bring some warmer weather with you, it will be much appreciated! Take care, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: N2774B | --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com | | Barry, | | We leave tonight and will see you as planed Friday. Looking foreword to | seeing you and Elaine. | | Best regards, | | Moe & Linn | N680RR| | | | | | ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:42 AM PST US From: JBOBSTER@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: N2774B --> Commander-List message posted by: JBOBSTER@aol.com N2774B was based at S43 (Harvey Airfield, Snohomish, WA) until very recently)...it may still be based there but is not there at the moment. Plane was "freshened up" with spot paint and stripes in the last 18 months... Plane flew occasionally, I would guess 1x per month, owner "ran it up" on the ramp at the times that his schedule did not permit actual flight. Exterior 5.0 Interior 5.0 I would say it is a steal at anything under 50K Jim Carroll 206 261 6565 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:17 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: N2774B --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/31/2003 10:00:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, JBOBSTER@aol.com writes: N2774B was based at S43 (Harvey Airfield, Snohomish, WA) until very recently)...it may still be based there but is not there at the moment. HI KIDS. I know something about this airplane, Two years ago, it had one GO-480-D1A, 275hp and one GO-480-G1B6, 295HP. I talked to the owner about the problem (he was looking for a propeller solution). The airplane has been both a 560A and a 560A(HC) The logs are, well, edgy. I have no idea what is currently installed now but you better find out. The ad stated it is "in annual" so I suppose he figured something out?? Or maybe not?? He said it was a little squirrely on TO. I wonder why with an extra 20 hp on one side. Be informed, Be careful, good luck. jb ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:47 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: N2774B --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote: > He said it was a little > squirrely on TO. I wonder why with an extra 20 hp on one side. Be informed, Be > careful, good luck. jb Eeek! It's rather hard for me to imagine that someone would have been flying that! JB, what ever happened to that poor old 560 that was near you - the one with the pretty panel but some corrosion...? Anyone ever give her a new home and some tlc? chris ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:04 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: N2774B --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 12/31/2003 5:15:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, cschuerm@cox.net writes: JB, what ever happened to that poor old 560 that was near you HAPPY NEW YEAR CHRIS!! I don't remember which 560 you are talking about. Give me another hint. There is a straight 500 parked at the Troutdale airport. It is a pretty nice airplane but suffered a gear up start a couple of weeks ago. The owner swears the handle was down and is telling everybody that the gear collapsed because the hydraulic pressure had not got to the gear but the brakes were holding, RRighTT!! Anyway, not to much damage was done, a prop strike and some small wrinkles in the belly. Hope all is well with you this new year my friend!! jb ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:49 PM PST US From: "Leon Stovall" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 560 Brakes --> Commander-List message posted by: "Leon Stovall" Jim, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Our 560 (N295V) is undergoing the annual inspection and is almost done. The mechanic ask about the brakes (Clevelands) and said that he talked to an FAA inspector here in Florida that would sign off a 337 on the brake installation. As soon as we get it, I'll fax you a copy if you still need it, just give me a fax number. Leon ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: 560 Brakes > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > HI KIDS. > > I just thought I would put an end to a great "urban legend." For > years many of us had heard of the straight 560 Commanders with Cleveland brakes > installed. We had a request from Jim Mcdonalad, Pilots for Christ, to borrow > some paperwork so he could install Cleveland's on his 560. > Well, after many phone calls and much effort the truth is, it has > never legally been done. Barry Collman looked at all the paperwork from all the > 560s from about 1982 forward and no 337 was ever done. > Unfortunately, Jim will be stuck with his old brakes but at least we > now know. It is a real shame it was never done. jb > > > "Arial" LANG"0">HI KIDS. > > I just thought I would put an end to a=20> great "urban legend." For years many of us had heard of the straight 5> 60 Commanders with Cleveland brakes installed. We had a request from J> im Mcdonalad, Pilots for Christ, to borrow some paperwork so he could instal> l Cleveland's on his 560. > Well, after many phone calls and much e> ffort the truth is, it has never legally been done. Barry Collman look> ed at all the paperwork from all the 560s from about 1982 forward and no 337> was ever done. > Unfortunately, Jim will be stuck with h> is old brakes but at least we now know. It is a real shame it was neve> r done. jb > >