Commander-List Digest Archive

Thu 01/01/04


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:50 AM - Re: need info (alh1@juno.com)
     2. 05:53 AM - Re: N2774B (Chris Schuermann)
     3. 09:48 AM - Re: need info (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
     4. 09:50 AM - Re: N2774B (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
     5. 10:08 AM - Re: N2774B (Chris Schuermann)
     6. 10:37 AM - Re: N2774B (JBOBSTER@aol.com)
     7. 11:58 AM - Re: N2774B (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
     8. 12:02 PM - Re: N2774B (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
     9. 12:27 PM - Re: N2774B (Chris Schuermann)
    10. 11:38 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:50:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: need info
    From: alh1@juno.com
    --> Commander-List message posted by: alh1@juno.com where is troutdale and what is the n number of the 500 there? we did have a failure similar to the one you describe, a mechanic hooked the hydraulic line backward on the gear and it retracted when the engine was started. the gear on that side retracted and just missed the mechanic when the prop hit the ground. the brakes held just fine. al hoffman


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    Time: 05:53:36 AM PST US
    From: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: N2774B
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net> YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote: > I don't remember which 560 you are talking about. Sorry, I mis-typed that - it was a straight 500 - 6209B. You'd taken some pictures of it for me. Had a very pretty panel, but enough corrosion that I didn't think I could get it to the condition I desired. chris


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    Time: 09:48:23 AM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: need info
    --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/1/2004 2:51:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, alh1@juno.com writes: where is troutdale and what is the n number of the 500 there? we did have a failure similar to the one you describe, a mechanic hooked the hydraulic line backward on the gear and it retracted when the engine was started. the gear on that side retracted and just missed the mechanic when the prop hit the ground. the brakes held just fine. al hoffman I can get that for you. The airplane had just come out of an annual inspection and was being run-up. I asked the guy if they had done any hose replacement, he didn't know. My guess, the mechanic left the gear handle up and the pilot didn't catch it. So, who is the culprit?? Happy New year. jb


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    Time: 09:50:31 AM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: N2774B
    --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/1/2004 5:54:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, cschuerm@cox.net writes: Sorry, I mis-typed that - it was a straight 500 - 6209B. You'd taken some pictures of it for me. Had a very pretty panel, but enough corrosion that I didn't think I could get it to the condition I desired. Still parked in the weeds, still rotting away. I took some pix for another flight group member but he also decided it was to lage of an undertaking. I sure wish some handyman would save the old gal!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!! jb


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    Time: 10:08:32 AM PST US
    From: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: N2774B
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net> YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote: > Still parked in the weeds, still rotting away. Sad to hear that jb. It's probably just about too far gone to seriously think about a restoration by now. What a shame...


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    Time: 10:37:11 AM PST US
    From: JBOBSTER@aol.com
    Subject: Re: N2774B
    --> Commander-List message posted by: JBOBSTER@aol.com "Annuals" on the aircraft were done "out of town", as local IA refused due to engine mismatch (actually an engine serial# mismatch) ...but I do believe it is in annual Jim


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    Time: 11:58:07 AM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: N2774B
    --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/1/2004 10:08:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, cschuerm@cox.net writes: Sad to hear that jb. It's probably just about too far gone to seriously think about a restoration by now. What a shame... INDEED!! Like so many Commanders, a relatively minor problem, left unattended to, overtakes the airplane. It is a good old 500 but has deteriorated to the extent that it is now borderline. Still, it could and should be saved, they dont make any new ones!! jb


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    Time: 12:02:28 PM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: N2774B
    --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/1/2004 10:37:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, JBOBSTER@aol.com writes: "Annuals" on the aircraft were done "out of town", as local IA refused due to engine mismatch (actually an engine serial# mismatch) I'll bet the "mismatch" is bigger than that, but hey, I haven't seen it in a couple of years. The GO-480-D1A is a pretty rare engine and I dont know of any that could have been installed so??? Still, at 35K it is a pretty good deal. It could be converted to an "HC" (Harry, do you still have a go 295hr??) with the "Heavy Hartzell" mod for about 30-35 so a guy would only be in the completed airplane 70 or so. It should be well worth that. jb


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    Time: 12:27:29 PM PST US
    From: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: N2774B
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net> YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote: > Still, it could and should be saved, > they dont make any new ones!! jb So true... Wouldn't it be incredible if someone put the Shrike back into production, but with pressurization, a pair of those new Bombardier V300T liquid-cooled engines, a Garmin G1000 panel, and some modern props?!?!? (hey, we can dream right?) Maybe the TCFG should try to get that 500 donated, then restore it and raffle it off like the Swift foundation does. Seems to work well for them. Chris


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    Time: 11:38:10 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
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