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From: "Richard I. Ward" <forward@net-link.net>
Subject: Your voice is needed to help save the airplane ride inAmerica!
MessageTBA MEMBERS AND FRIENDS!
Please take a few moments to read this well done article by Greg Herrick and then
send your comments to the FAA. Please take a moment to visit the site: How
I Can Help Save Airplane Rides in America and post a note at: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments,
or send the a letter to the FAA telling them what you think=20about "NPRM
4521".
If enacted, this will hammer another nail in the coffin of general aviation, by
forcing us into Part 135 operations.
On a personal note...I have been a volunteer Captain on a 1929 Ford Tri-motor owned
and operated by the Kalamazoo Aviation History museum for many years and
have accumulated over 550 hours as a pilot, serving at no charge to the Air Zoo.
We give historical rides in this marvelous machine as a step back=20in time,
to the public and a nominal charge is made with receipts going to the Museum.
If this is enacted, that will be the end of that!
Dick
Richard I. Ward
Forward Horizons, LLC
&
Twin Bonanza Association
19684 Lakeshore Drive
Three Rivers, MI 49093 USA
Office/Home: 269.279.2540
Flight Operation: 269.279.7616
Cell: 269.251.2636
Email: forward@net-link.net
Web page: www.twinbonanza.com
Subject: Your voice is needed to help save the airplane ride in America!
From: Greg Herrick, Aviation Foundation of America, National Air Tour
As a friend of the National Air Tour we know that you are interested in America's
great aviation heritage. Now, you can help preserve that heritage -- by simply
expressing your opinion. Here's what is happening:
The FAA is presently considering a rule that would essentially eliminate the opportunity
for citizens to purchase an airplane ride.
A family ready for a ride in a New Standard bi-plane. Scenes like this one from
the National Air Tour, will become a thing of the past.
This is no exaggeration. On the National Air Tour we had four aircraft offering
rides: a Ford tri-motor, two New Standard bi-planes and a Travel Air bi-plane.
If the FAA adopts this new proposed rule, these types of rides will become a
thing of the past. Unfortunately, unlike the large air carriers, the people who
offer airplane rides are usually smaller operators who don't have a voice in
Washington, D.C. The only voice they really have is yours -- and now your voice
needs to be heard.
The FAA is now proposing that people offering local airplane rides must conform
to the same very onerous rules as large air carrier operations (known as Part
135 operators).
Presently, these folks who offer rides in your community, or at an event like the
National Air Tour, operate under what is called "Part 91" rules. According
to the FAA's own statistics, Part 91 operators are nearly twice as safe as those
operating under Part 135; Part 91 fixed wing airplane rides safer=20still!
Most of the safety issues the FAA is trying to solve are with helicopter operations
in Hawaii. Unfortunately, the FAA is trying to make a "one size sits all"
rule. This will basically eliminate operators offering local rides in historic
aircraft such as those offered during the National Air Tour.
Time and time again Clay Adams filled filled the seat of his beautiful 1929=20Travel
Air on the National Air Tour. He sells rides to share his passion and love
for our history. He has no big lobby in Washington.
Here at the Aviation Foundation of America, we have nothing at stake other than
to try to preserve an important grassroots aviation experience. People offering
airplane rides, whether in a Ford tri-motor, a bi-plane, or a Cessna at your
local airport have introduced millions of Americans to the joys of=20flight.
They deserve our help.
What we are asking you to do is to write a letter to the FAA in your own words,
opposing the incorporation of Part 91 ride giving operations currently operating
under CFR 119.1(e)(2), into Part 135.
A great deal of additional detail, including supporting arguments and assistance
in preparing your remarks, may be found at this link (click here)-> How I Can
Help Save Airplane Rides in America.
As you will find at that site, you may post your remarks directly over the Internet
at: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments. You may also write a letter (the address is listed
at that link above).
The closing date for remarks is January 20th, so please make your opinion known
to the FAA as soon as possible. Thank you for helping to save an important part
of America's aviation heritage - your ability to buy and airplane ride!
Believe it or not, scenes like this could disappear from across America in a few
short months. The folks from Waldo Wright's Flying service, who made so many
people smile on the tour have written some of the commentary found in=20this
link about the FAAs Notice of Proposed Rule Making found here: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments.
Many vintage aircraft like this Ford tri-motor which sold rides on the National
Air Tour, will no longer be able to offer rides for hire. This, despite=20the
fact that they have safely flown tens of thousands of people for seventy-five
years and are lovingly maintained by their owners. With no way to even cover
their expenses if they are taken on the road, these ships will be relegated to
museums.
Please take a moment to visit the site: How I Can Help Save Airplane Rides in America
and post a note at: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments, or send the a letter to the
FAA telling them what you think about "NPRM 4521".
Thank you for your helping to save the airplane ride!
Greg Herrick, President
Aviation Foundation of America
NATIONAL AIR TOUR
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TBA MEMBERS AND
FRIENDS!
Please take a few moments to read this well done article by
Greg Herrick and then send your comments to the FAA. Please take a moment to visit
the site: How I Can Help Save Airplane Rides in America and post a note at:
FAA NPRM 4521 Comments, or send the a letter to the FAA telling them
what you think about "NPRM 4521".
If enacted, this will hammer another nail in the coffin of general
aviation, by forcing us into Part 135 operations.
On a personal
note...I have been a volunteer Captain on a 1929 Ford Tri-motor owned and
operated by the Kalamazoo Aviation History museum for many years and have
accumulated over 550 hours as a pilot, serving at no charge to the Air Zoo.=20We
give historical rides in this marvelous machine as a step back in time, to the
public and a nominal charge is made with receipts going to the Museum. If this
is enacted, that will be the end of that!
Dick
Richard I. Ward
Forward Horizons,
LLC
Twin Bonanza Association
19684 Lakeshore Drive
Three Rivers,=20MI
49093 USA
Office/Home: 269.279.2540
Flight Operation:
269.279.7616
Cell: 269.251.2636
Email: forward@net-link.net
Web page: www.twinbonanza.com
Subject: Your voice is needed to help save
the airplane ride in America!
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From: Greg Herrick,
Aviation Foundation of America, National Air Tour
As a friend of the National Air
Tour we know that you are interested in America's great aviation heritage. Now,
you can help preserve that heritage -- by simply expressing your opinion. Here's
what is happening:
The FAA is
presently considering a rule that would essentially eliminate the opportunity
for citizens to purchase an airplane ride.
<IMG id_x0000_i1025 height336 src"http://nationalairtour.org/images/maillist/9.15WALDOscene.jpg" width448 NOSEND"1">
A family ready for a ride in
a New Standard bi-plane. Scenes like this one from the National Air Tour, will
become a thing of the past.
This is no exaggeration. On the
National Air Tour we had four aircraft offering rides: a Ford tri-motor, two New
Standard bi-planes and a Travel Air bi-plane. If the FAA adopts this new
proposed rule, these types of rides will become a thing of the past.
Unfortunately, unlike the large air carriers, the people who offer airplane
rides are usually smaller operators who don't have a voice in Washington, D.C.
The only voice they really have is yours -- and now your voice needs to be
heard.
The FAA is now proposing that
people offering local airplane rides must conform to the same very onerous rules
as large air carrier operations (known as Part 135 operators).
Presently, these folks who offer rides in your community, or
at an event like the National Air Tour, operate under what is called "Part 91"
rules. According to the FAA's own statistics, Part 91 operators are nearly twice
as safe as those
operating under Part 135; Part 91 fixed wing airplane rides safer still!
Most of the safety issues the FAA is trying to solve are with
helicopter operations in Hawaii. Unfortunately, the FAA is trying to make a=20"one
size sits all" rule. This will basically eliminate operators offering local
rides in historic aircraft such as those offered during the National Air Tour.
<IMG id_x0000_i1026 height300 src"http://nationalairtour.org/images/maillist/27-TravelAir-NC397Mpilot.jpg" width425 NOSEND"1">
Time and time again
Clay Adams filled filled the seat of his beautiful 1929 Travel Air on the
National Air Tour. He sells rides to share his passion and love for our history.
He has no big lobby in Washington.
Here at the Aviation
Foundation of America, we have nothing at stake other than to try to preserve an
important grassroots aviation experience. People offering airplane rides,
whether in a Ford tri-motor, a bi-plane, or a Cessna at your local airport have
introduced millions of Americans to the joys of flight. They deserve our help.
What we are asking you to do is to write a letter to=20the
FAA in your own words, opposing the
incorporation of Part 91 ride giving operations currently operating under CFR
119.1(e)(2), into Part 135.
A great deal of additional detail,
including supporting arguments and assistance in preparing your remarks, may be
found at this link (click here)- How I Can Help Save
Airplane Rides in America.
As you will find at that site, you may post your remarks
directly over the Internet at: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments. You may also write a
letter (the address is listed at that link above).
The
closing date for remarks is January 20th, so please make your opinion known=20to
the FAA as soon as possible. Thank you for helping to save an important part of
America's aviation heritage - your ability to buy and airplane ride!
<IMG id_x0000_i1027 height307 src"http://nationalairtour.org/images/maillist/WaldoScene.JPG" width460 border0 NOSEND"1">Believe it or not,
scenes like this could disappear from across America in a few short months.=20The
folks from Waldo Wright's Flying service, who made so many people smile on the
tour have written some of the commentary found in this link about the FAAs
Notice of Proposed Rule Making found here: FAA
NPRM 4521 Comments.
<IMG id_x0000_i1028 height288 src"http://nationalairtour.org/images/maillist/CANYON_FORD.JPG" width432 border0 NOSEND"1">
Many vintage
aircraft like this Ford tri-motor which sold rides on the National Air Tour,
will no longer be able to offer rides for hire. This, despite the fact that=20they
have safely flown tens of thousands of people for seventy-five years and are
lovingly maintained by their owners. With no way to even cover their expenses if
they are taken on the road, these ships will be relegated to museums.
Please take a moment to visit the site: How I Can Help Save Airplane Rides
in America and post a note at: FAA
NPRM 4521 Comments, or send the a letter to the FAA telling them what you
think about "NPRM 4521".
Thank you for your helping to save the airplane
ride!
Greg Herrick, President
Aviation Foundation of America
NATIONAL
AIR TOUR
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I searched this and found alot of strange irrelevant information on
microsoft formating, no link to the problem.
I agree, but need the direction to the correct site.
Thanks
Bobby
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Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: Your voice is needed to help save the airplane
ride inAmerica!
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
>
> From: "Richard I. Ward" <forward@net-link.net>
> To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:"@mail5.mx.voyager.net;>
> Subject: Your voice is needed to help save the airplane ride inAmerica!
> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:48:47 -0500
>
>
> MessageTBA MEMBERS AND FRIENDS!
>
> Please take a few moments to read this well done article by Greg Herrick
and then send your comments to the FAA. Please take a moment to visit the
site: How I Can Help Save Airplane Rides in America and post a note at: FAA
NPRM 4521 Comments, or send the a letter to the FAA telling them what you
think=20about "NPRM 4521".
>
> If enacted, this will hammer another nail in the coffin of general
aviation, by forcing us into Part 135 operations.
>
> On a personal note...I have been a volunteer Captain on a 1929 Ford
Tri-motor owned and operated by the Kalamazoo Aviation History museum for
many years and have accumulated over 550 hours as a pilot, serving at no
charge to the Air Zoo. We give historical rides in this marvelous machine as
a step back=20in time, to the public and a nominal charge is made with
receipts going to the Museum. If this is enacted, that will be the end of
that!
>
> Dick
>
> Richard I. Ward
> Forward Horizons, LLC
> &
> Twin Bonanza Association
> 19684 Lakeshore Drive
> Three Rivers, MI 49093 USA
> Office/Home: 269.279.2540
> Flight Operation: 269.279.7616
> Cell: 269.251.2636
> Email: forward@net-link.net
> Web page: www.twinbonanza.com
>
>
> Subject: Your voice is needed to help save the airplane ride in America!
>
>
> From: Greg Herrick, Aviation Foundation of America, National Air Tour
>
> As a friend of the National Air Tour we know that you are interested in
America's great aviation heritage. Now, you can help preserve that
heritage -- by simply expressing your opinion. Here's what is happening:
>
> The FAA is presently considering a rule that would essentially eliminate
the opportunity for citizens to purchase an airplane ride.
>
>
> A family ready for a ride in a New Standard bi-plane. Scenes like this one
from the National Air Tour, will become a thing of the past.
>
> This is no exaggeration. On the National Air Tour we had four aircraft
offering rides: a Ford tri-motor, two New Standard bi-planes and a Travel
Air bi-plane. If the FAA adopts this new proposed rule, these types of rides
will become a thing of the past. Unfortunately, unlike the large air
carriers, the people who offer airplane rides are usually smaller operators
who don't have a voice in Washington, D.C. The only voice they really have
is yours -- and now your voice needs to be heard.
>
> The FAA is now proposing that people offering local airplane rides must
conform to the same very onerous rules as large air carrier operations
(known as Part 135 operators).
>
> Presently, these folks who offer rides in your community, or at an event
like the National Air Tour, operate under what is called "Part 91" rules.
According to the FAA's own statistics, Part 91 operators are nearly twice as
safe as those operating under Part 135; Part 91 fixed wing airplane rides
safer=20still! Most of the safety issues the FAA is trying to solve are with
helicopter operations in Hawaii. Unfortunately, the FAA is trying to make a
"one size sits all" rule. This will basically eliminate operators offering
local rides in historic aircraft such as those offered during the National
Air Tour.
>
>
> Time and time again Clay Adams filled filled the seat of his beautiful
1929=20Travel Air on the National Air Tour. He sells rides to share his
passion and love for our history. He has no big lobby in Washington.
>
> Here at the Aviation Foundation of America, we have nothing at stake other
than to try to preserve an important grassroots aviation experience. People
offering airplane rides, whether in a Ford tri-motor, a bi-plane, or a
Cessna at your local airport have introduced millions of Americans to the
joys of=20flight. They deserve our help.
>
> What we are asking you to do is to write a letter to the FAA in your own
words, opposing the incorporation of Part 91 ride giving operations
currently operating under CFR 119.1(e)(2), into Part 135.
>
> A great deal of additional detail, including supporting arguments and
assistance in preparing your remarks, may be found at this link (click
here)-> How I Can Help Save Airplane Rides in America.
>
> As you will find at that site, you may post your remarks directly over the
Internet at: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments. You may also write a letter (the
address is listed at that link above).
>
> The closing date for remarks is January 20th, so please make your opinion
known to the FAA as soon as possible. Thank you for helping to save an
important part of America's aviation heritage - your ability to buy and
airplane ride!
>
> Believe it or not, scenes like this could disappear from across America in
a few short months. The folks from Waldo Wright's Flying service, who made
so many people smile on the tour have written some of the commentary found
in=20this link about the FAAs Notice of Proposed Rule Making found here: FAA
NPRM 4521 Comments.
>
>
> Many vintage aircraft like this Ford tri-motor which sold rides on the
National Air Tour, will no longer be able to offer rides for hire. This,
despite=20the fact that they have safely flown tens of thousands of people
for seventy-five years and are lovingly maintained by their owners. With no
way to even cover their expenses if they are taken on the road, these ships
will be relegated to museums.
>
> Please take a moment to visit the site: How I Can Help Save Airplane Rides
in America and post a note at: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments, or send the a letter
to the FAA telling them what you think about "NPRM 4521".
>
> Thank you for your helping to save the airplane ride!
> Greg Herrick, President
> Aviation Foundation of America
> NATIONAL AIR TOUR
>
>
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> TBA MEMBERS AND
> FRIENDS!
>
> Please take a few moments to read this well done article by
> Greg Herrick and then send your comments to the FAA. Please take a moment
to visit the site: How I Can Help Save Airplane Rides in America and post a
note at: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments, or send the a letter to the FAA telling
them
> what you think about "NPRM 4521".
>
> If enacted, this will hammer another nail in the coffin of general
> aviation, by forcing us into Part 135 operations.
>
>
> On a personal
> note...I have been a volunteer Captain on a 1929 Ford Tri-motor owned and
> operated by the Kalamazoo Aviation History museum for many years and have
> accumulated over 550 hours as a pilot, serving at no charge to the Air
Zoo.=20We
> give historical rides in this marvelous machine as a step back in time, to
the
> public and a nominal charge is made with receipts going to the Museum. If
this
> is enacted, that will be the end of that!
>
> Dick
>
> Richard I. Ward
> Forward Horizons,
> LLC
>
>
> Twin Bonanza Association
> 19684 Lakeshore Drive
> Three Rivers,=20MI
> 49093 USA
> Office/Home: 269.279.2540
> Flight Operation:
> 269.279.7616
> Cell: 269.251.2636
> Email: forward@net-link.net
> Web page: www.twinbonanza.com
>
>
> Subject: Your voice is needed to help save
> the airplane ride in America!
>
>
> <![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]>
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>
> From: Greg Herrick,
> Aviation Foundation of America, National Air Tour
>
> As a friend of the National Air
> Tour we know that you are interested in America's great aviation heritage.
Now,
> you can help preserve that heritage -- by simply expressing your opinion.
Here's
> what is happening:
>
> The FAA is
> presently considering a rule that would essentially eliminate the
opportunity
> for citizens to purchase an airplane ride.
>
> <IMG id_x0000_i1025 height336
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> A family ready for a ride in
> a New Standard bi-plane. Scenes like this one from the National Air Tour,
will
> become a thing of the past.
>
> This is no exaggeration. On the
> National Air Tour we had four aircraft offering rides: a Ford tri-motor,
two New
> Standard bi-planes and a Travel Air bi-plane. If the FAA adopts this new
> proposed rule, these types of rides will become a thing of the past.
> Unfortunately, unlike the large air carriers, the people who offer
airplane
> rides are usually smaller operators who don't have a voice in Washington,
D.C.
> The only voice they really have is yours -- and now your voice needs to be
> heard.
>
> The FAA is now proposing that
> people offering local airplane rides must conform to the same very onerous
rules
> as large air carrier operations (known as Part 135 operators).
>
>
> Presently, these folks who offer rides in your community, or
> at an event like the National Air Tour, operate under what is called "Part
91"
> rules. According to the FAA's own statistics, Part 91 operators are nearly
twice as safe as those
> operating under Part 135; Part 91 fixed wing airplane rides safer still!
> Most of the safety issues the FAA is trying to solve are with
> helicopter operations in Hawaii. Unfortunately, the FAA is trying to make
a=20"one
> size sits all" rule. This will basically eliminate operators offering
local
> rides in historic aircraft such as those offered during the National Air
Tour.
>
>
> <IMG id_x0000_i1026 height300
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> Time and time again
> Clay Adams filled filled the seat of his beautiful 1929 Travel Air on the
> National Air Tour. He sells rides to share his passion and love for our
history.
> He has no big lobby in Washington.
>
> Here at the Aviation
> Foundation of America, we have nothing at stake other than to try to
preserve an
> important grassroots aviation experience. People offering airplane rides,
> whether in a Ford tri-motor, a bi-plane, or a Cessna at your local airport
have
> introduced millions of Americans to the joys of flight. They deserve our
help.
>
>
> What we are asking you to do is to write a letter to=20the
> FAA in your own words, opposing the
> incorporation of Part 91 ride giving operations currently operating under
CFR
> 119.1(e)(2), into Part 135.
>
> A great deal of additional detail,
> including supporting arguments and assistance in preparing your remarks,
may be
> found at this link (click here)- How I Can Help Save
> Airplane Rides in America.
>
> As you will find at that site, you may post your remarks
> directly over the Internet at: FAA NPRM 4521 Comments. You may also write
a
> letter (the address is listed at that link above).
>
> The
> closing date for remarks is January 20th, so please make your opinion
known=20to
> the FAA as soon as possible. Thank you for helping to save an important
part of
> America's aviation heritage - your ability to buy and airplane ride!
>
>
> <IMG id_x0000_i1027 height307
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border0 NOSEND"1">Believe it or not,
> scenes like this could disappear from across America in a few short
months.=20The
> folks from Waldo Wright's Flying service, who made so many people smile on
the
> tour have written some of the commentary found in this link about the FAAs
> Notice of Proposed Rule Making found here: FAA
> NPRM 4521 Comments.
>
> <IMG id_x0000_i1028 height288
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> Many vintage
> aircraft like this Ford tri-motor which sold rides on the National Air
Tour,
> will no longer be able to offer rides for hire. This, despite the fact
that=20they
> have safely flown tens of thousands of people for seventy-five years and
are
> lovingly maintained by their owners. With no way to even cover their
expenses if
> they are taken on the road, these ships will be relegated to museums.
>
>
> Please take a moment to visit the site: How I Can Help Save Airplane Rides
> in America and post a note at: FAA
> NPRM 4521 Comments, or send the a letter to the FAA telling them what you
> think about "NPRM 4521".
>
> Thank you for your helping to save the airplane
> ride!
> Greg Herrick, President
> Aviation Foundation of America
> NATIONAL
> AIR TOUR
>
>
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