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1. 08:36 AM - Re: Looking to buy (Tom Fisher)
2. 09:21 AM - Re: Looking to buy ()
3. 06:06 PM - Re: nacell former (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
4. 11:33 PM - Re: V-Speeds (CloudCraft@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Looking to buy |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Harry,
Are you open to any payment plans?
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Looking to buy
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt"
<avtec2@bellsouth.net>
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> Call Me!
> Harry 321 267-3141
> 1964 680FLP MR. RPM I0-720 Turbo, Automatic waste gates, 170SMOH, Props
> O,With New long Blades
> Fresh Annual. New Cleveland's,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Looking to buy
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> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> >
> > If anyone comes across a 680FLP with the Mr.RPM conversion would you let
> me
> > know.
> > The one I was one the verge of buying has been pulled off the market.
> > Tom F.
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> >
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--> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
Make me a offer on Down and what per month
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Looking to buy
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
<tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>
> Harry,
> Are you open to any payment plans?
> Tom F.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Merritt" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Looking to buy
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> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Harry Merritt"
> <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > Call Me!
> > Harry 321 267-3141
> > 1964 680FLP MR. RPM I0-720 Turbo, Automatic waste gates, 170SMOH, Props
> > O,With New long Blades
> > Fresh Annual. New Cleveland's,
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Commander-List: Looking to buy
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
> > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
> > >
> > > If anyone comes across a 680FLP with the Mr.RPM conversion would you
let
> > me
> > > know.
> > > The one I was one the verge of buying has been pulled off the market.
> > > Tom F.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: nacell former |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
Dear Dan,
You might try Jack Chappell (Commander Dock) at 909.371.7513. He is in
Riverside, CA., and I have found him to be quite nice to deal with.
Good Luck
Moe Mills
N680RR
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--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 03/05/04 12:48:45 Pacific Standard Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
I suppose I'm really asking what Vfe is. Is it:
1). the maximum speed you can fly at with the flaps already down, or
2). the maximum speed, below which you can start to lower the flaps
Also, what is the difference between:
Vmo (Maximum Operating limit speed)
Vno (Maximum structural cruising speed) and was this formerly known as Normal
Operating speed?
Sir Barry,
Sorry for taking so long to reply. My day job gets in the way at times.
Hope you found the info you're looking for.
If not, or, at the risk of repeating what you've already learned:
Vfe / Vfo is the same on the Aero Commanders. Vfe is the maximum flap
extended speed and Vfo is the maximum speed you can operate the flaps.
Some aircraft may have actuators that can't push against a certain airload
(that would be an example of Vfo) and some aircraft have flap tracks, hardware,
etc. that would rip off beyond a certain speed. That would give you an idea
of Vfe.
"Vfe = Velocity Flaps Extended Speed - keeps you from ripping the flaps off
when deployed but also takes into account the additional lift effect that flaps
have on limit loads during maneuvering or gust encounters. Aircraft must
withstand 2g positive limit load factor and gusts of 25fps with flaps extended
at
this speed."
The same would apply to Vlo / Vle for landing gear. An aircraft that has
doors that open, then close after gear extention would have a Vlo lower than Vle,
for example. With the Commanders, the nose gear doors and nacelle doors
remain open in the slip stream, so that's what probably limits the Vlo/Vle in our
aircraft.
Not sure the exact engineering definition of Vmo is, but here's Vno and that
may shead some light:
Vne = Velocity Never Exceed - do not exceed this speed at any time.
Vno = Maximum Structural Cruising Speed - a limit that takes into account
gust encounters at high cruising speeds, do not exceed this speed except in
smooth air and then only with extreme caution.
You were correct on Va, Vle, Vfe, etc.
Anything else we can help with? Anything anyone can add?
Wing Commander Gordon
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