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1. 08:19 AM - THANKS! (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
2. 08:50 AM - Re: THANKS! (Chris Schuermann)
3. 09:07 AM - (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
4. 02:33 PM - Re: 680E Taxies Down Under (RnJThompson@aol.com)
5. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
6. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
7. 06:17 PM - Re: (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
8. 06:49 PM - Santa Maria CA Fly-In (April 30-May 2) (Cory Emberson)
9. 06:56 PM - Re: (Bill Bow)
10. 08:08 PM - Re: (Todd Hindmarsh)
11. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under (John Vormbaum)
12. 08:32 PM - Re: (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
13. 08:35 PM - Re: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
14. 09:13 PM - Re: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under (MRP)
15. 10:06 PM - Re: Taxis down under (Bruce Campbell)
16. 11:51 PM - "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" (John Vormbaum)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
I would like to thank Moe Mills for the donation of a beautiful maintenance
manual for a model 720. Commander only made 13 of these airplanes (I owned
one) and believe it or don't, but we have two owners in our group. I am trying
to put together a complete set of all manuals for all Commanders for the group
and this is a very nice addition. Thanks Moe!! jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote:
> I am trying to put together a complete set of all manuals for all Commanders
JB, fyi: I have parts manuals, maint. manuals, service letters, service
bulletins, and service info documents for every Commander from the 520
through the 690B if you ever need to check anything. I spent a
not-really-small fortune purchasing all of these from the factory so I
guess I'll hang on to them for a while longer on the off chance that I
ever own another Commander. I'd intended to index all the SBs and SL's
and put summaries along with a full AD list on the web site, but just
never got that done. Anyway, they're all "new" condition and are
carefully packed away for now.
chrisS
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Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:16:25 -0600
--> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <KAMALA@msn.com>
I DO KNOW IF MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE EVER MADE IT TO THE GROUP SO I AM GOING OUT ONE
MORE TRY. I HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED A 680. IN GETTING THE ANNUAL WE DISCOVERED
THAT THE WINGLETS WERE BOGUS!!! SO ALL OUT THERE BE AWARE THAT THIS RENDERS
THE AIR CRAFT UNAIRWORTHY. ALL BUYERS AND SELLERS SHOULD CHECK THIS OUT.
THE STC HELD BY COMMANDER AERO IS THE ONLY ONE CERTIFIED FOR OUR PLANES. IF
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CALL ME.MASON CHEVAILLIER 817-877-4977 OFC OR
817-517-4977 MOB.
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| Subject: | Re: 680E Taxies Down Under |
--> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com
Hi All
For those that are interested. My 680E taxied under its own power for the
fist time in 11 years. A milestone has been reached and the end is now in sight
after 3.5 years of hard work. I hope to have the old girl flyable in the next
few months. I still have to do the interior,outboard tanks and paint. AND HEAPS
OF PAPERWORK TO GET THE CofA BACK (about 7500 pounds ).
Thanks to all who have helped with parts, advice and support.
Jim, Morris, TCAC,TCFG etc.
Regards
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: 680E Taxies Down Under |
Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:31:18 -0600
--> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <KAMALA@msn.com>
good luck
----- Original Message -----
From: RnJThompson@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:29 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under
--> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com
Hi All
For those that are interested. My 680E taxied under its own power for the
fist time in 11 years. A milestone has been reached and the end is now in sight
after 3.5 years of hard work. I hope to have the old girl flyable in the next
few months. I still have to do the interior,outboard tanks and paint. AND HEAPS
OF PAPERWORK TO GET THE CofA BACK (about 7500 pounds ).
Thanks to all who have helped with parts, advice and support.
Jim, Morris, TCAC,TCFG etc.
Regards
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: 680E Taxies Down Under |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/28/2004 2:33:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
RnJThompson@aol.com writes:
For those that are interested. My 680E taxied under its own power for the
fist time in 11 years.
YIPPEE!! Great to hear. I assume it is running with the "Heavy Hartzells"??
Great news jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/28/2004 9:07:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, KAMALA@msn.com
writes:
ALL BUYERS AND SELLERS SHOULD CHECK THIS OUT
I think there may have been a little "creative publishing" going on with my
propeller STC recently as well. jb
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| Subject: | Santa Maria CA Fly-In (April 30-May 2) |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Hello everyone!
With Matt Dralle's blessing (thank you, Matt!), I'm pleased to post this announcement
for a terrific aviation fly-in weekend. SMXgig (in Santa Maria, CA) has
become the year's largest face-to-face get-together of electronically networked
aviators. We hope you'll plan to attend because we expect this year's gig to
be the best ever.
People come from all over the country (and sometimes overseas) to attend, and most of the sessions qualify for FAA Wings cards. The dates are 4/30-5/2/04 (Friday-Sunday) - it's a lot of fun, and a great chance for pilots from all over to mingle and share aviation stories, ideas, etc. The announcement below contains most of the crucial information, and you can get the rest from the website (www.smxgig.org). If you have any questions at all, just let me know, and thanks!
~~Cory Emberson
KHWD
>>> NOTICE TO AIRMEN! <<<
Announcing the Sixteenth Annual SMXgig
to be held on April 30 - May 2, 2004
at the Radisson on the Santa Maria (CA) Airport (aka SMX)
www.smxgig.org
SMXgig will be April 30 - May 2, 2004, at the Santa Maria Radisson. This year,
our featured speaker after Friday night's dinner will be Rod Machado!
"MACH 2 WITH MACHADO" is the byline Rod Machado has earned for his rapid fire delivery
at his lively safety seminars and keynote speeches. His programs are information-packed,
energetic, and humorous. He has spoken in all fifty of the
United States and in Europe sharing his fresh approach to aviation education.
If you can make it, please do. It's going to be pretty special. More information and the announcement/ registration info is available at www.smxgig.org You may also contact me by email at: cory@smxgig.org.
All technical sessions will be held in the Enterprise Ballroom at the SMX Radisson.
Each session will last about an hour. We schedule four tech sessions on Saturday
morning, and four on Sunday morning. Most of the speakers are set (I'm
still firming up a couple of slots - I'm working on a session about Experimentals):
MIKE BUSCH - The Art and Science of Troubleshooting
Your A frequently, that person is you. That's particularly true of problems that
occur only in-flight and/or are intermittent. This session offers methodology
for troubleshooting aimed at aircraft owners who aren't A&Ps.
ED WILLIAMS - GPS - How It Works, and How to Work It
Ed is a nuclear physicist working at Lawrence Livermore Labs. Ed does a
remarkable job of making physics phun!
BRENT BLUE, M.D. - Pilot Medicals: How to Avoid Problems with the FAA
Brent is an AME Advocate, who specializes in helping the tough cases renew their
medicals. He's a former member of EAA's medical advisory committee.
DOUG RITTER - Equipping Yourself To Survive - Personal Survival Gear for Pilots
Doug is a survival evangelist, personally driven to help pilots live through whatever comes next. www.equipped.org
PAUL MILLNER - The Future of Avgas
Paul works with ChevronTexaco, and is right in the middle of the industry developments
regarding our fuel of choice.
MARY DUFFY & UWE LEMKE - Flying in Europe
Mary and Uwe are a Scot and a German who live in the San Francisco Bay Area, but
return "home" often.
As always, each qualifying session will get you a WINGS Safety Session card.
Our Saturday evening event should be a delicious one! At 5:45 p.m., the BFUB (Big Fat Ugly Bus) will arrive at the Santa Maria Radisson to bring us to the Far Western Tavern for dinner in beautiful Guadalupe (www.farwesterntavern.com).
DOLLARS AND CENTS
Just as in previous years, there will be one flat all-encompassing "gig" fee that
covers all events that involve significant out-of-pocket costs for the organizers.
The fee is $160 per person, and will cover:
- Friday afternoon welcome party
- Friday evening dinner banquet
- Saturday and Sunday tech sessions
- Saturday afternoon lunch
- Saturday evening dinner at the Far Western Tavern in Guadalupe
- Meeting rooms and coffee service at the Santa Maria Radisson
- Transportation to (and from) the Far Western Tavern
Lodging at the SMX Radisson will cost $89.00/night for either a single or double
room, which is far below the regular hotel room rate. Be sure you check in as
a SMXgig attendee and get the special rate. We have our definitive preference
listed with the hotel for rampside rooms - early registration can only help,
but of course, the rampside rooms are subject to availability depending on how
many existing guests are in those rooms.
You do not need to register with the hotel - just give me your preferences, and
I will take care of the reservations.
Important: This year, our final rooming lists are due to the hotel on April 11,
2004 (the even of Sun 'n Fun), which will guarantee space and the group rate.
The hotel will accept additional room reservations after that, on a space- and
rate-available basis. They will try their best to accommodate us after that
date, but the hotel is already sold out for the weekend.
The website (www.smxgig.org) has detailed information about the schedule, meals, hotel accommodations, and online registration. If you'd like your own announcement/registration emailed to you, or have any other questions, just let me know. (cory@smxgig.org or bootless@earthlink.net ).
Thanks, and see you there!
best, Cory Emberson
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
What?
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/28/2004 9:07:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
KAMALA@msn.com
> writes:
> ALL BUYERS AND SELLERS SHOULD CHECK THIS OUT
> I think there may have been a little "creative publishing" going on with
my
> propeller STC recently as well. jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Todd Hindmarsh" <todd@hindmarsh.us>
What is your tail number?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MASON
CHEVAILLIER
Subject: Commander-List:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <KAMALA@msn.com>
I DO KNOW IF MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE EVER MADE IT TO THE GROUP SO I AM GOING OUT
ONE MORE TRY. I HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED A 680. IN GETTING THE ANNUAL WE
DISCOVERED THAT THE WINGLETS WERE BOGUS!!! SO ALL OUT THERE BE AWARE THAT
THIS RENDERS THE AIR CRAFT UNAIRWORTHY. ALL BUYERS AND SELLERS SHOULD CHECK
THIS OUT. THE STC HELD BY COMMANDER AERO IS THE ONLY ONE CERTIFIED FOR OUR
PLANES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CALL ME.MASON CHEVAILLIER
817-877-4977 OFC OR 817-517-4977 MOB.
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| Subject: | Re: 680E Taxies Down Under |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Richard,
YAAAHHHOOOOOO! Congrats! When the old girl gets flying, you have to make
sure you send pictures to all of us who can't make it Down Under for her
maiden voyage!
/John (N353CC)
----- Original Message -----
From: <RnJThompson@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under
> --> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com
>
> Hi All
>
> For those that are interested. My 680E taxied under its own power for the
> fist time in 11 years. A milestone has been reached and the end is now in
sight
> after 3.5 years of hard work. I hope to have the old girl flyable in the
next
> few months. I still have to do the interior,outboard tanks and paint. AND
HEAPS
> OF PAPERWORK TO GET THE CofA BACK (about 7500 pounds ).
>
> Thanks to all who have helped with parts, advice and support.
> Jim, Morris, TCAC,TCFG etc.
>
> Regards
> Richard
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/28/2004 6:56:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bowing74@earthlink.net writes:
What?
People photo copying My STC and selling, or giving it to owners when they buy
propellers from them. I think it has already happened once and may be about
to happen again?? jb
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| Subject: | Re: 680E Taxies Down Under |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 3/28/2004 8:24:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
john@vormbaum.com writes:
/John (N353CC)
HI JOHN.
Haven't heard from you in a while. How is life!! jb
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| Subject: | Re: 680E Taxies Down Under |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MRP <mrp37@mindspring.com>
Hey Richard!
Congratulations!!! I can only imagine what that feels like. Hope to see you,
and your wife again at the next fly-in.
Mark
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| Subject: | re: Taxis down under |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
Good on ya' cobber!
It's a great feeling to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Bruce Campbell
N4186B ( Twin commander 520 )
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| Subject: | "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Capt. Jimbob,
Thanks for the "hello" note.
Things are good! 353CC is running like a fine swiss watch right now, just
the usual grumbles a little exhaust deflection on top of the
nacelle that needs some attention (don't want to warp any metal), a little
water leaking into the cabin when it rains, but other than that, PERFECT!
I did have an adventure going to Scottsdale, AZ a couple of weeks ago with a
friend though. The 2 of us flew down in ideal conditions and had an
uneventful perfect flight; then, that evening, we both got REALLY sick in
Scottsdale (NOT food poisoning). We were both bedridden for 14 hours or so;
my friend was throwing up and I got Monetzuma's Revenge in a big way. Turns
out my left 3-in-1 gauge had sprung a minor leak (which I spotted the next
day, having become suspicious of our symptoms), dripping fuel into the cabin
for the 3-hour flight, which we both breathed without noticing. Scary--not
enough leakage for us to smell, especially with O2 on, but plenty enough to
make us sick.
The good news was that Executive Aviation Services at SDL called in a
mechanic on Saturday, when their maintenance dept. is normally closed, to
fix my airplane. It only took a couple of hours to remove/pressure
test/reinstall (with some teflon tape on the fittings) the 3-in-1, they had
GREAT labor rates (<$300 for the whole fix, which took about 6 man-hours)
and to top it off, they waived the hangar/overnight fees for the weekend I
was there! In addition, they fixed a couple of other minor squawks on their
own, exhibiting high standards of service, at no fee. John Phoenix, the
(new) owner of EAS, is a real friend to Commander owners. I recommend
paying a visit when in Scottsdale.
Next step is new paint. I've saved up the $$, it's just a matter of finding
a quality paint shop with time on their schedule. Any suggestions? Who
painted the Grand Renegade???? Speaking of which, is her singed wing healing
nicely?
Hope all's well in the Northwest!
/John
PS: The scariest issue from that trip is, what if I was alone? How much fuel
vapor does it take to incapacitate a single pilot? What would have happened
then? We noticed that we got sick at different rates with different
symptoms. I'll be VERY glad when there's an approved solution for
transducer-based gauges that get fuel & oil out of the cockpit for good.....
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/28/2004 8:24:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> john@vormbaum.com writes:
> /John (N353CC)
> HI JOHN.
>
> Haven't heard from you in a while. How is life!! jb
>
>
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