---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/29/04: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:15 AM - Re: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under (Russell Legg) 2. 05:56 AM - Re: "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 3. 06:01 AM - Re: (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 4. 10:28 AM - Re: "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" (John Vormbaum) 5. 01:14 PM - DEICE BOOTS (MOEMILLS@aol.com) 6. 02:50 PM - Re: DEICE BOOTS (Bill Bow) 7. 03:11 PM - Re: DEICE BOOTS (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 8. 04:16 PM - Re: DEICE BOOTS (MOEMILLS@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under From: Russell Legg --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg G'day Mr "T", Congratulations on a fantastic milestone. We are proud of your efforts here in OzCommanderland. Well done!! Cheers Russell On 29/3/04 7:59 AM, "RnJThompson@aol.com" wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com > > Hi All > > For those that are interested. My 680E taxied under its own power for the > fist time in 11 years. A milestone has been reached and the end is now in > sight > after 3.5 years of hard work. I hope to have the old girl flyable in the next > few months. I still have to do the interior,outboard tanks and paint. AND > HEAPS > OF PAPERWORK TO GET THE CofA BACK (about 7500 pounds ). > > Thanks to all who have helped with parts, advice and support. > Jim, Morris, TCAC,TCFG etc. > > Regards > Richard > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:40 AM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:53:36 -0600 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" try texas aero color in brady, tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vormbaum To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:48 AM Subject: Commander-List: "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > Capt. Jimbob, Thanks for the "hello" note. Things are good! 353CC is running like a fine swiss watch right now, just the usual grumbles a little exhaust deflection on top of the nacelle that needs some attention (don't want to warp any metal), a little water leaking into the cabin when it rains, but other than that, PERFECT! I did have an adventure going to Scottsdale, AZ a couple of weeks ago with a friend though. The 2 of us flew down in ideal conditions and had an uneventful perfect flight; then, that evening, we both got REALLY sick in Scottsdale (NOT food poisoning). We were both bedridden for 14 hours or so; my friend was throwing up and I got Monetzuma's Revenge in a big way. Turns out my left 3-in-1 gauge had sprung a minor leak (which I spotted the next day, having become suspicious of our symptoms), dripping fuel into the cabin for the 3-hour flight, which we both breathed without noticing. Scary--not enough leakage for us to smell, especially with O2 on, but plenty enough to make us sick. The good news was that Executive Aviation Services at SDL called in a mechanic on Saturday, when their maintenance dept. is normally closed, to fix my airplane. It only took a couple of hours to remove/pressure test/reinstall (with some teflon tape on the fittings) the 3-in-1, they had GREAT labor rates (<$300 for the whole fix, which took about 6 man-hours) and to top it off, they waived the hangar/overnight fees for the weekend I was there! In addition, they fixed a couple of other minor squawks on their own, exhibiting high standards of service, at no fee. John Phoenix, the (new) owner of EAS, is a real friend to Commander owners. I recommend paying a visit when in Scottsdale. Next step is new paint. I've saved up the $$, it's just a matter of finding a quality paint shop with time on their schedule. Any suggestions? Who painted the Grand Renegade???? Speaking of which, is her singed wing healing nicely? Hope all's well in the Northwest! /John PS: The scariest issue from that trip is, what if I was alone? How much fuel vapor does it take to incapacitate a single pilot? What would have happened then? We noticed that we got sick at different rates with different symptoms. I'll be VERY glad when there's an approved solution for transducer-based gauges that get fuel & oil out of the cockpit for good..... ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > In a message dated 3/28/2004 8:24:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, > john@vormbaum.com writes: > /John (N353CC) > HI JOHN. > > Haven't heard from you in a while. How is life!! jb > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:18 AM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:58:26 -0600 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" n2001M ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Hindmarsh To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 10:03 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Todd Hindmarsh" > What is your tail number? -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MASON CHEVAILLIER To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" > I DO KNOW IF MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE EVER MADE IT TO THE GROUP SO I AM GOING OUT ONE MORE TRY. I HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED A 680. IN GETTING THE ANNUAL WE DISCOVERED THAT THE WINGLETS WERE BOGUS!!! SO ALL OUT THERE BE AWARE THAT THIS RENDERS THE AIR CRAFT UNAIRWORTHY. ALL BUYERS AND SELLERS SHOULD CHECK THIS OUT. THE STC HELD BY COMMANDER AERO IS THE ONLY ONE CERTIFIED FOR OUR PLANES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CALL ME.MASON CHEVAILLIER 817-877-4977 OFC OR 817-517-4977 MOB. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:41 AM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Thanks Mason, I'll add them to my list! ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" > --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" > > try texas aero color in brady, tx. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Vormbaum > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:48 AM > Subject: Commander-List: "I love the smell of.....AvGas in the morning" > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > > Capt. Jimbob, > > Thanks for the "hello" note. > > Things are good! 353CC is running like a fine swiss watch right now, just > the usual grumbles a little exhaust deflection on top of the > nacelle that needs some attention (don't want to warp any metal), a little > water leaking into the cabin when it rains, but other than that, PERFECT! > > I did have an adventure going to Scottsdale, AZ a couple of weeks ago with a > friend though. The 2 of us flew down in ideal conditions and had an > uneventful perfect flight; then, that evening, we both got REALLY sick in > Scottsdale (NOT food poisoning). We were both bedridden for 14 hours or so; > my friend was throwing up and I got Monetzuma's Revenge in a big way. Turns > out my left 3-in-1 gauge had sprung a minor leak (which I spotted the next > day, having become suspicious of our symptoms), dripping fuel into the cabin > for the 3-hour flight, which we both breathed without noticing. Scary--not > enough leakage for us to smell, especially with O2 on, but plenty enough to > make us sick. > > The good news was that Executive Aviation Services at SDL called in a > mechanic on Saturday, when their maintenance dept. is normally closed, to > fix my airplane. It only took a couple of hours to remove/pressure > test/reinstall (with some teflon tape on the fittings) the 3-in-1, they had > GREAT labor rates (<$300 for the whole fix, which took about 6 man-hours) > and to top it off, they waived the hangar/overnight fees for the weekend I > was there! In addition, they fixed a couple of other minor squawks on their > own, exhibiting high standards of service, at no fee. John Phoenix, the > (new) owner of EAS, is a real friend to Commander owners. I recommend > paying a visit when in Scottsdale. > > Next step is new paint. I've saved up the $$, it's just a matter of finding > a quality paint shop with time on their schedule. Any suggestions? Who > painted the Grand Renegade???? Speaking of which, is her singed wing healing > nicely? > > Hope all's well in the Northwest! > > /John > > PS: The scariest issue from that trip is, what if I was alone? How much fuel > vapor does it take to incapacitate a single pilot? What would have happened > then? We noticed that we got sick at different rates with different > symptoms. I'll be VERY glad when there's an approved solution for > transducer-based gauges that get fuel & oil out of the cockpit for good..... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: 680E Taxies Down Under > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 3/28/2004 8:24:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > john@vormbaum.com writes: > > /John (N353CC) > > HI JOHN. > > > > Haven't heard from you in a while. How is life!! jb > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:00 PM PST US From: MOEMILLS@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: DEICE BOOTS --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com Fellow Commander Drivers, Does anyone have a suggestion as to the best treatment for wing and tail boots to prevent sun damage? Thanx! Moe N680RR ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:56 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: DEICE BOOTS --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" A hanger? Sorry I couldn't resist Moe. bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: DEICE BOOTS > --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com > > Fellow Commander Drivers, > > Does anyone have a suggestion as to the best treatment for wing and tail > boots to prevent sun damage? > > Thanx! > > Moe > N680RR > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:52 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: DEICE BOOTS --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 3/29/2004 1:14:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, MOEMILLS@aol.com writes: Does anyone have a suggestion as to the best treatment for wing and tail boots to prevent sun damage? For several years my Duke was parked outside and I used Mequiers carnuba past wax. Two applications, twice each year. They looked great and it helped to shed ice. jb ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:36 PM PST US From: MOEMILLS@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: DEICE BOOTS --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com How about if I just Duct Tape them for the summer months? Moe