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1. 12:04 AM - Re: Hello (CloudCraft@aol.com)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Hello (Russell Legg)
3. 06:42 AM - Re: BACK IN THE AIR (Phil Stubbs)
4. 07:14 AM - Re: Hello (vince320@comcast.net)
5. 07:58 AM - Re: Hello (Jim Addington)
6. 11:24 AM - Re: Hello (Alan Kucheck)
7. 12:47 PM - LEAKING OIL TANKS (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
8. 01:03 PM - vacuum warning light pressure switch (Scott Dickey)
9. 01:18 PM - Re: vacuum warning light pressure switch (MOEMILLS@aol.com)
10. 03:16 PM - Re: Hello (tylor.hall)
11. 03:52 PM - Re: Hello (Alan Kucheck)
12. 06:59 PM - The case of the door key (Jim Addington)
13. 07:16 PM - Re: The case of the door key (Tom Fisher)
14. 08:51 PM - M.E. time (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
15. 09:02 PM - Re: The case of the door key (Jim Addington)
16. 09:03 PM - Re: M.E. time (Tom Fisher)
17. 10:53 PM - Re: LEAKING OIL TANKS (Phil Stubbs)
18. 11:05 PM - Re: M.E. time (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
19. 11:07 PM - Re: LEAKING OIL TANKS (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 04/15/04 15:08:54 Pacific Daylight Time,
vince320@comcast.net writes:
> We are looking at the 685.....Any comments on this one?
>
Vince,
If we keep the comparisons to the cabin class, pressurized, piston-twin, the
Commander 685 is superb and under-valued.
Compared to a Duke, Cessna 421, P-Navajo and what ever else I'm forgetting,
the Commander has superior systems, handling and load carrying without center
of gravity problems.
What it is not: The AC-685 does not share the rest of the line's short field
reputation. It does not climb well at high weights in high temperatures. It
is not cheap to operate -- but neither are the other aircraft in its class.
If you operate out of a short runway, you'll have to limit fuel load (at 322
gallons, you probably don't need full fuel for most trips) to match the runway
limitation.
What it is: I found it to be the quietest piston twin I've ever flown. It's
roomy, rangy and a joy to fly. If you're familiar with the Commander line,
you'll appreciate the Turbo Commander airframe and systems (and Known Ice
certification) and flight manual data, which is the most comprehensive of all the
piston Commanders.
I'd have to search pretty deep through all my junk, but somewhere I have
trend monitors from the AC-685 I operated.
My trip profiles didn't put me much higher than the mid-teens and I ran at
62-65% power. If I recall, I averaged 190 knots with a fuel flow of 45 gph,
running 100 degrees rich on the TIT. Flight plan block fuel at 50 gph. I can
dig up the trends, if you need.
Altough the engines are "the same as the Cessna 421" -- as in GTSIO 540 -- it
is not exactly the same and you'll need a mechanic that knows the difference.
The Bendix fuel injection/fuel metering system seems to be the biggest
difference and a CE-421 mechanic will not have the proper knowledge without doing
a
bit of learning.
We have a few AC-685 owners on this email net, I hope they weigh in.
What else do you want to know?
Wing Commander Gordon
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
G'day Al,
Great to read that you are back in the skies!
Make sure you get 11D along to Kansas City Downtown in September...it is a
really cool airport flanked by the river. I was last there during the
almighty '93 floods.
Congratulations.
Cheers
Russell
On 16/4/04 2:51 PM, "Alan Kucheck" <Alan.Kucheck@borland.com> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck"
> <Alan.Kucheck@borland.com>
>
> Jim:
>
> Congratulations and welcome.
>
> I own a 1962 500A [converted by Colemill in '73] and would be happy to
> forward you a copy of my AFM Supplement that was issued by Colemill at
> the time of the conversion. Just send me an email with your address. My
> contact info is at the bottom of the page for my 500A:
>
> http://www.kucheck.net/Aircraft/N811D.html
>
> Also, I am happy to announce to the group that 11D is, after about 3
> months of downtime, once again flying with some fresh zero-time OHs.
> The new engines are very smooth and everything seems to be in order.
> Nice to be airborne again!
>
> Alan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Hasler [mailto:jhasler@gte.net]
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Hello
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Hasler" <jhasler@gte.net>
>
> Hello =96
>
> My name is Jim Hasler and I am new to the Commander List. I recently
> bought Gary Gadberry=92s 500A (N800AC). It is presently being restored
> in
> Chattanooga and scheduled to be completed by this June. It will be based
> in St Joseph, MO (STJ). It has the Colemill 300HP conversion. I am
> slowly gathering some specifications for the plane but lack performance
> figures. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I think
> Mr. Barry Coleman has already posed this question to the group but I
> thought maybe you would like to know a little about me. I am looking
> forward to talking with you and meeting you as opportunities present
> themselves.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: BACK IN THE AIR |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
Both my tanks appeared to be leaking, after several years when the nacelles
were off I found that the bottom bolts were loose. Retorqued, safety wired
and the leaks stopped. Something to look at.
Phil
> [Original Message]
> From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 4/15/2004 11:02:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: BACK IN THE AIR
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 4/15/2004 6:09:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> MOEMILLS@aol.com writes:
>
> Are you replacing the oil tanks because of a leak? Are they the same on
a
> 680 like yours as they are on a 680F(p)? How much time is involved in
> changing
> them? N680RR is seeping a little.
> Yes, they leak(dang it) and yes they are the same as your airplane. I
have
> never done a set but am told it is a very miserable job. I should have
them
> done in a couple of weeks, I let you know how they go. jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: vince320@comcast.net
Thank you very much for the info, I'll be forwarding this info on to the chief
who will be pitching the aircraft to the boss...
I'm glad that I've found knowledgable on the aircraft..
Thanks again.
Vince320
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 04/15/04 15:08:54 Pacific Daylight Time,
> vince320@comcast.net writes:
>
> > We are looking at the 685.....Any comments on this one?
> >
> Vince,
>
> If we keep the comparisons to the cabin class, pressurized, piston-twin, the
> Commander 685 is superb and under-valued.
>
> Compared to a Duke, Cessna 421, P-Navajo and what ever else I'm forgetting,
> the Commander has superior systems, handling and load carrying without center
> of gravity problems.
>
> What it is not: The AC-685 does not share the rest of the line's short field
> reputation. It does not climb well at high weights in high temperatures. It
> is not cheap to operate -- but neither are the other aircraft in its class.
>
> If you operate out of a short runway, you'll have to limit fuel load (at 322
> gallons, you probably don't need full fuel for most trips) to match the runway
> limitation.
>
> What it is: I found it to be the quietest piston twin I've ever flown. It's
> roomy, rangy and a joy to fly. If you're familiar with the Commander line,
> you'll appreciate the Turbo Commander airframe and systems (and Known Ice
> certification) and flight manual data, which is the most comprehensive of all
> the
> piston Commanders.
>
> I'd have to search pretty deep through all my junk, but somewhere I have
> trend monitors from the AC-685 I operated.
>
> My trip profiles didn't put me much higher than the mid-teens and I ran at
> 62-65% power. If I recall, I averaged 190 knots with a fuel flow of 45 gph,
> running 100 degrees rich on the TIT. Flight plan block fuel at 50 gph. I can
> dig up the trends, if you need.
>
> Altough the engines are "the same as the Cessna 421" -- as in GTSIO 540 -- it
> is not exactly the same and you'll need a mechanic that knows the difference.
> The Bendix fuel injection/fuel metering system seems to be the biggest
> difference and a CE-421 mechanic will not have the proper knowledge without
> doing a
> bit of learning.
>
> We have a few AC-685 owners on this email net, I hope they weigh in.
>
> What else do you want to know?
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Alan,
I have a 500A with the I-O470s that I would like to some day convert. Could
I get you to add me to the email list when you send the Colemill
information.
Thanks
Jim Addington
N444BD
jtaddington@charter.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan
Kucheck
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hello
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck"
<Alan.Kucheck@borland.com>
Jim:
Congratulations and welcome.
I own a 1962 500A [converted by Colemill in '73] and would be happy to
forward you a copy of my AFM Supplement that was issued by Colemill at
the time of the conversion. Just send me an email with your address. My
contact info is at the bottom of the page for my 500A:
http://www.kucheck.net/Aircraft/N811D.html
Also, I am happy to announce to the group that 11D is, after about 3
months of downtime, once again flying with some fresh zero-time OHs.
The new engines are very smooth and everything seems to be in order.
Nice to be airborne again!
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hasler [mailto:jhasler@gte.net]
Subject: Commander-List: Hello
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Hasler" <jhasler@gte.net>
Hello =96
My name is Jim Hasler and I am new to the Commander List. I recently
bought Gary Gadberry=92s 500A (N800AC). It is presently being restored
in
Chattanooga and scheduled to be completed by this June. It will be based
in St Joseph, MO (STJ). It has the Colemill 300HP conversion. I am
slowly gathering some specifications for the plane but lack performance
figures. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I think
Mr. Barry Coleman has already posed this question to the group but I
thought maybe you would like to know a little about me. I am looking
forward to talking with you and meeting you as opportunities present
themselves.
Thanks
Jim
==
==
==
==
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck" <Alan.Kucheck@borland.com>
Good to hear from you, Russell!
Planning on Kansas City. Only roadblock at this time is stupid stuff
like work. ;>( But I'm working on it.
I am planning on taking 11D on kind of a long cross country, about three
weeks, starting around July 24th or so. Furthest destination is
Rochester NY, with planned stops in Santa Fe, Chicago (PWK) outbound;
Montgomery AL, New Orleans, Austin on the return. If anyone knows of
some great little airport on this approximate route that I really
shouldn't miss, don't be shy.
ak
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Legg [mailto:rlegg@austarnet.com.au]
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hello
--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg
<rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
G'day Al,
Great to read that you are back in the skies!
Make sure you get 11D along to Kansas City Downtown in September...it is
a
really cool airport flanked by the river. I was last there during the
almighty '93 floods.
Congratulations.
Cheers
Russell
On 16/4/04 2:51 PM, "Alan Kucheck" <Alan.Kucheck@borland.com> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck"
> <Alan.Kucheck@borland.com>
>
> Jim:
>
> Congratulations and welcome.
>
> I own a 1962 500A [converted by Colemill in '73] and would be happy to
> forward you a copy of my AFM Supplement that was issued by Colemill at
> the time of the conversion. Just send me an email with your address.
My
> contact info is at the bottom of the page for my 500A:
>
> http://www.kucheck.net/Aircraft/N811D.html
>
> Also, I am happy to announce to the group that 11D is, after about 3
> months of downtime, once again flying with some fresh zero-time OHs.
> The new engines are very smooth and everything seems to be in order.
> Nice to be airborne again!
>
> Alan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Hasler [mailto:jhasler@gte.net]
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Hello
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Hasler" <jhasler@gte.net>
>
> Hello =96
>
> My name is Jim Hasler and I am new to the Commander List. I recently
> bought Gary Gadberry=92s 500A (N800AC). It is presently being restored
> in
> Chattanooga and scheduled to be completed by this June. It will be
based
> in St Joseph, MO (STJ). It has the Colemill 300HP conversion. I am
> slowly gathering some specifications for the plane but lack
performance
> figures. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I
think
> Mr. Barry Coleman has already posed this question to the group but I
> thought maybe you would like to know a little about me. I am looking
> forward to talking with you and meeting you as opportunities present
> themselves.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
>
>
>
>
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | LEAKING OIL TANKS |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
Phil in your post concerning seeping oil tanks, you stated that you retorqued
to bottom bolts. I assume that you are referring to the dozen or so bolts
that attach the sump to the tank. Is this correct?
Thanx,
Moe
N680RR
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| Subject: | vacuum warning light pressure switch |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Scott Dickey" <jdickey@radictech.com>
Hi All,
I might have a problem with the vacuum warning light pressure switch which
is located just before the T manifold/shuttle valve thing behind the baggage
compartment in my 500B. I say might because I haven't done the
troubleshooting yet but I have a light that stays on even with vacuum
pressure on that side (one engine running). It is possible the pressure
switch is faulty and won't open in the presence of vacuum. Does anyone know
if these can be overhauled? I don't have the manufacturer or p/n handy, but
if anyone has any information I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Scott
N222LE
500B 1525-187
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| Subject: | Re: vacuum warning light pressure switch |
--> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
Yes,
Inside the stainless steel housing (which isspot welded in about three
places, and must be ground open) is a small piston with a spring which can be
adjusted with a nut. To properly adjust this, you need an adjustable vacuum pump
with a good gage. The stainless housing has the correct setting listed on it.
This piston/spring triggers a miniature switch which controls the light. The
switch is commercially available for about $2.00. After repairs are made you
will need to heli-arc the housing back together (3 small spot welds).
If you fly IFR this is a very good safety device.
Good luck!
Moe
N680RR
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" <tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net>
Alan,
Connect the dots for us. Rochester, Santa Fe and Chicago do not seem on a
straight line. Where are you coming from?
Santa Fe is not noted for cheep fuel prices. Just up the valley is Los
Alamos, LAM. They have low cost self service AVGAS. The route over the
Santa Fe VOR SAF is the way through the pass at lower altitudes.
Another possible stop would be Durango DRO and they have self service AVGAS.
Spend the day and ride the Durango Silverton RR. Neat town. On the way to
Chicago, Salina, KS SLN is the quick turn around spot. Buy 100 gallons and
you get a free steak. Burlington, KS UKL is low cost stop for AVGAS since
the county runs it. In the Kansas City area, Johnson County Executive OJC
has self service AVGAS.
Happy flying.
Tylor Hall
I am planning on taking 11D on kind of a long cross country, about three
weeks, starting around July 24th or so. Furthest destination is
Rochester NY, with planned stops in Santa Fe, Chicago (PWK) outbound;
Montgomery AL, New Orleans, Austin on the return. If anyone knows of
some great little airport on this approximate route that I really
shouldn't miss, don't be shy.
ak
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck" <Alan.Kucheck@borland.com>
Tylor:
Point of origin and return is SNA in Southern Cal. Destinations with
business or family include Chicago, Ann Arbor, Rochester, Montgomery AL.
The other points - Santa Fe, New Orleans, Austin merely would be
entertaining refueling/overnight possibilities. If you need to stop
somewhere, might as well make it fun, right?
Thanks for the tips below - Durango sounds cool. I'll be checking into
them.
ak
-----Original Message-----
From: tylor.hall [mailto:tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hello
--> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall"
<tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net>
Alan,
Connect the dots for us. Rochester, Santa Fe and Chicago do not seem on
a
straight line. Where are you coming from?
Santa Fe is not noted for cheep fuel prices. Just up the valley is Los
Alamos, LAM. They have low cost self service AVGAS. The route over the
Santa Fe VOR SAF is the way through the pass at lower altitudes.
Another possible stop would be Durango DRO and they have self service
AVGAS.
Spend the day and ride the Durango Silverton RR. Neat town. On the way
to
Chicago, Salina, KS SLN is the quick turn around spot. Buy 100 gallons
and
you get a free steak. Burlington, KS UKL is low cost stop for AVGAS
since
the county runs it. In the Kansas City area, Johnson County Executive
OJC
has self service AVGAS.
Happy flying.
Tylor Hall
I am planning on taking 11D on kind of a long cross country, about three
weeks, starting around July 24th or so. Furthest destination is
Rochester NY, with planned stops in Santa Fe, Chicago (PWK) outbound;
Montgomery AL, New Orleans, Austin on the return. If anyone knows of
some great little airport on this approximate route that I really
shouldn't miss, don't be shy.
ak
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | The case of the door key |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Hello all,
Ok, this is my version of the story and I am sticking to it regardless of
what Charlie says. A friend of mine, Charlie Davis, was interested in buying
a Commander. His wife wanted two engines for the trips they made. His
mother-in-law goes with them often but has claustrophobia so he needed a
plane with room. I told him to take the key to my plane go out and let
everyone sit in it and see if it was really what he wanted and needed for
his mother-in-law to feel comfortable. He unlocks the door and turns the key
to try to get it out but decides that he will just leave it in since they
were not going to fly. He closed the door and they decide this will work.
His mother-in-law does not feel closed in and is comfortable. Now he tries
to open the door but it will not open. Some how when he closed the door it
locked. Now he is thinking, when is his mother-in-law going to start
shredding the inside of the plane and start making a door on the right side
of the plane, even though no Commander has one there. The plane was in the
back of the 120x120 foot hangar and I mean in the very back. When they went
in, they only opened one door about 4 feet. Charlie is looking for some one
to pass by but no one does. He tried to call on the radio but no answer. Now
he is really getting concerned. He finds a screw driver and thinks about
taking out a window but decides that won't work. Then he finds the escape
hatch, opens it, and shoves his wife out so she can go around and open the
door. Even with all this he still bought a very beautiful 500B which we
picked up in NC last week. That was another whole story but was a very
enjoyable trip. He will be joining the TCFG soon. This is why I had to tell
this story before he gets here and tells his side. I did have his permission
to tell the story. We do, however, have a question, and we know that it
should never happen in flight, but is there any way to open the door if it
gets locked other than the way he did?
Jim Addington
500A
N444BD
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| Subject: | Re: The case of the door key |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Pull off the interior panel on the door?
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Subject: Commander-List: The case of the door key
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Ok, this is my version of the story and I am sticking to it regardless of
> what Charlie says. A friend of mine, Charlie Davis, was interested in
buying
> a Commander. His wife wanted two engines for the trips they made. His
> mother-in-law goes with them often but has claustrophobia so he needed a
> plane with room. I told him to take the key to my plane go out and let
> everyone sit in it and see if it was really what he wanted and needed for
> his mother-in-law to feel comfortable. He unlocks the door and turns the
key
> to try to get it out but decides that he will just leave it in since they
> were not going to fly. He closed the door and they decide this will work.
> His mother-in-law does not feel closed in and is comfortable. Now he tries
> to open the door but it will not open. Some how when he closed the door it
> locked. Now he is thinking, when is his mother-in-law going to start
> shredding the inside of the plane and start making a door on the right
side
> of the plane, even though no Commander has one there. The plane was in the
> back of the 120x120 foot hangar and I mean in the very back. When they
went
> in, they only opened one door about 4 feet. Charlie is looking for some
one
> to pass by but no one does. He tried to call on the radio but no answer.
Now
> he is really getting concerned. He finds a screw driver and thinks about
> taking out a window but decides that won't work. Then he finds the escape
> hatch, opens it, and shoves his wife out so she can go around and open the
> door. Even with all this he still bought a very beautiful 500B which we
> picked up in NC last week. That was another whole story but was a very
> enjoyable trip. He will be joining the TCFG soon. This is why I had to
tell
> this story before he gets here and tells his side. I did have his
permission
> to tell the story. We do, however, have a question, and we know that it
> should never happen in flight, but is there any way to open the door if it
> gets locked other than the way he did?
>
> Jim Addington
> 500A
> N444BD
>
>
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KILL_LEVEL=5.0@matronics.com
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
Well, I flew triple 2 again today and made two flights and landed
with both engines running both times, YEA!! I thought I was going to just let
my
M.E. rating laps since I seem to only fly on one anyway. N222JS is running
GGRREAT!! It is so good to be back in the saddle. I plan to fly to Sanpoint,
there all week and will be driving home (10 hours) right under me as I balst
home a 12.5 and 200 mph (1.7hr).
Hope all is wel in your Commanderland. jb
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| Subject: | The case of the door key |
QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
I will pass that on.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom
Fisher
Subject: Re: Commander-List: The case of the door key
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
<tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Pull off the interior panel on the door?
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Subject: Commander-List: The case of the door key
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Ok, this is my version of the story and I am sticking to it regardless of
> what Charlie says. A friend of mine, Charlie Davis, was interested in
buying
> a Commander. His wife wanted two engines for the trips they made. His
> mother-in-law goes with them often but has claustrophobia so he needed a
> plane with room. I told him to take the key to my plane go out and let
> everyone sit in it and see if it was really what he wanted and needed for
> his mother-in-law to feel comfortable. He unlocks the door and turns the
key
> to try to get it out but decides that he will just leave it in since they
> were not going to fly. He closed the door and they decide this will work.
> His mother-in-law does not feel closed in and is comfortable. Now he tries
> to open the door but it will not open. Some how when he closed the door it
> locked. Now he is thinking, when is his mother-in-law going to start
> shredding the inside of the plane and start making a door on the right
side
> of the plane, even though no Commander has one there. The plane was in the
> back of the 120x120 foot hangar and I mean in the very back. When they
went
> in, they only opened one door about 4 feet. Charlie is looking for some
one
> to pass by but no one does. He tried to call on the radio but no answer.
Now
> he is really getting concerned. He finds a screw driver and thinks about
> taking out a window but decides that won't work. Then he finds the escape
> hatch, opens it, and shoves his wife out so she can go around and open the
> door. Even with all this he still bought a very beautiful 500B which we
> picked up in NC last week. That was another whole story but was a very
> enjoyable trip. He will be joining the TCFG soon. This is why I had to
tell
> this story before he gets here and tells his side. I did have his
permission
> to tell the story. We do, however, have a question, and we know that it
> should never happen in flight, but is there any way to open the door if it
> gets locked other than the way he did?
>
> Jim Addington
> 500A
> N444BD
>
>
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QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
I hope this will not deter you from returning to Abbotsford, (August
airshow?, If you want, I can put 222JS in the static portion of the airshow
for three days as a search aircraft).
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
<KILL_LEVEL=5.0@matronics.com>
Subject: Commander-List: M.E. time
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> HI KIDS.
>
> Well, I flew triple 2 again today and made two flights and landed
> with both engines running both times, YEA!! I thought I was going to just
let my
> M.E. rating laps since I seem to only fly on one anyway. N222JS is
running
> GGRREAT!! It is so good to be back in the saddle. I plan to fly to
Sanpoint,
> there all week and will be driving home (10 hours) right under me as I
balst
> home a 12.5 and 200 mph (1.7hr).
> Hope all is wel in your Commanderland. jb
>
>
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| Subject: | LEAKING OIL TANKS |
QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
Those are the ones.
Phil
> [Original Message]
> From: <MOEMILLS@aol.com>
> To: <COMMANDER-LIST@matronics.com>
> Date: 4/16/2004 3:47:24 PM
> Subject: Commander-List: LEAKING OIL TANKS
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: MOEMILLS@aol.com
>
> Phil in your post concerning seeping oil tanks, you stated that you
retorqued
> to bottom bolts. I assume that you are referring to the dozen or so
bolts
> that attach the sump to the tank. Is this correct?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Moe
> N680RR
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 4/16/2004 9:03:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
I hope this will not deter you from returning to Abbotsford, (August
airshow?, If you want, I can put 222JS in the static portion of the airshow
for three days as a search aircraft).
Tom F.
What date?? jb
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| Subject: | Re: LEAKING OIL TANKS |
KILL_LEVEL=5.0@matronics.com
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 4/16/2004 10:53:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
br549phil@mindspring.com writes:
Those are the ones
Caution should be used here. I tightened mine and while it did slow the leak
temporarily, it returned much worse. I believe that the tank is brittle
between the sump casting and the wing skin and tightening the bolts may have
caused an even larger leak?? jb
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