---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/17/04: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:40 AM - Re: M.E. time (Tom Fisher) 2. 12:00 PM - Seeking Knowledge... (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 3. 03:55 PM - Re: LEAKING OIL TANKS (nico css) 4. 05:57 PM - Re: Seeking Knowledge... (tylor.hall) 5. 07:05 PM - Re: Seeking Knowledge... (CloudCraft@aol.com) 6. 07:38 PM - Re: Hello (W J R HAMILTON) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:08 AM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: M.E. time QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" It is usually the second weekend of August, last year it was Aug 8,9 & 10. This year I think it will be Aug 13,14 &15 but I will update this information as I receive it. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: M.E. time > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/16/2004 9:03:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, > tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: > I hope this will not deter you from returning to Abbotsford, (August > airshow?, If you want, I can put 222JS in the static portion of the airshow > for three days as a search aircraft). > Tom F. > What date?? jb > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:05 PM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Commander-List: Seeking Knowledge... --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Hi guys, Anybody out there have an opinion on P Navajo's...owned or operated one..?? I am considering purchasing one, and am interested in information about maintenance, operating costs, performance, etc. Thanks, Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:55:07 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: LEAKING OIL TANKS --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" Or small cracks? Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: LEAKING OIL TANKS > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/16/2004 10:53:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, > br549phil@mindspring.com writes: > Those are the ones > Caution should be used here. I tightened mine and while it did slow the leak > temporarily, it returned much worse. I believe that the tank is brittle > between the sump casting and the wing skin and tightening the bolts may have > caused an even larger leak?? jb > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:52 PM PST US From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Seeking Knowledge... --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" Randy, The P-Navajo has the TIGO-541-E1A engine. Like the engines in your 680, Lycoming does not support it. Parts are hard to come by. I had a customer that flew one into Pagosa Springs. We changed the vacuum pump. Bridget "Fingers" the AI, found only two bolds holding it on. The other two were loose. Only someone with really small hands can get to it. The customer liked it and owned two of them. The second was for parts. But they are cheep compared to the Cessna 414 or 421. Tylor Hall Hi guys, Anybody out there have an opinion on P Navajo's...owned or operated one..?? I am considering purchasing one, and am interested in information about maintenance, operating costs, performance, etc. Thanks, Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:53 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Seeking Knowledge... --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 04/17/04 17:58:22 Pacific Daylight Time, tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net writes: > The P-Navajo has the TIGO-541-E1A engine. Like the engines in your 680, > Lycoming does not support it. There. Tylor said it. I was going to, but didn't want to sound too critical. I have zero P-Navajo experience. But I will toss this useless opinion/question out and maybe someone can shed some light on it. I believe the Piper Cheyenne is based on or very similar to the P-Navajo airframe. I understand that the short body Cheyenne (not the XL) has a SAS; a Stability Augmentation System. I'm suspicious of an airplane that needs synthetic devices to make them flyable. The aircraft that I've flown that do have SAS of one kind or another are the Merlin III series and the Lear 25D. Both are in my Top Three List for Great Performing Airplanes that I Hated to Fly. If you want to go pressurized, look at the AC-685. It probably has a similar runway requirement and performance -- but you know the systems and handling are top notch. Wing Commander Gordon ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:30 PM PST US From: W J R HAMILTON Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hello --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON Alan, Likewise for my 500A, hopefully soon to be "improved"with a few more horsepower. Cheers, Bill Hamilton. At 00:54 17/04/2004, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" > > >Alan, > >I have a 500A with the I-O470s that I would like to some day convert. Could >I get you to add me to the email list when you send the Colemill >information. > >Thanks >Jim Addington >N444BD >jtaddington@charter.net > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan >Kucheck >To: commander-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hello > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck" > > >Jim: > >Congratulations and welcome. > >I own a 1962 500A [converted by Colemill in '73] and would be happy to >forward you a copy of my AFM Supplement that was issued by Colemill at >the time of the conversion. Just send me an email with your address. My >contact info is at the bottom of the page for my 500A: > >http://www.kucheck.net/Aircraft/N811D.html > >Also, I am happy to announce to the group that 11D is, after about 3 >months of downtime, once again flying with some fresh zero-time OHs. >The new engines are very smooth and everything seems to be in order. >Nice to be airborne again! > >Alan > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Hasler [mailto:jhasler@gte.net] >To: commander-list@matronics.com >Subject: Commander-List: Hello > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Hasler" > >Hello =96 > >My name is Jim Hasler and I am new to the Commander List. I recently >bought Gary Gadberry=92s 500A (N800AC). It is presently being restored >in >Chattanooga and scheduled to be completed by this June. It will be based >in St Joseph, MO (STJ). It has the Colemill 300HP conversion. I am >slowly gathering some specifications for the plane but lack performance >figures. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I think >Mr. Barry Coleman has already posed this question to the group but I >thought maybe you would like to know a little about me. I am looking >forward to talking with you and meeting you as opportunities present >themselves. > >Thanks >Jim > > >== >== >== >== > > COMMUNICATIONS CHANGES: All Recipients Please Note. The new email address for all Glenalmond Group Companies, W.J.R.Hamilton, Fighter Flights Internet Services and Warbirds.Net is: will remain valid for about three months. All phone numbers remain unchanged, but changes will take place in about three months, the date will be notified.