---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/04/04: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:08 AM - Gear down, check 3 green, or "How to make your gear lights intermittent" (Alan Kucheck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:03 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Gear down, check 3 green, or "How to make your gear lights intermittent" From: "Alan Kucheck" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck" Resending...looks like the first one didn't go thru. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Kucheck Subject: Gear down, check 3 green, or "How to make your gear lights intermittent" All: Here is the upshot on the missing green lights: there is a cannon plug on the back of the gear indicator box that carries all the wires to the box. This had worked itself nearly free and was the cause of the erratic behavior. Once you get to this plug [a feat in itself], it is difficult to tighten. My mechanic and I suspect that it was never really cinched down properly when some panel enhancements were made about 2 years ago. We don't think it will work free again anytime soon. ;>) ak -----Original Message----- From: Alan Kucheck Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gear down, check 3 green Given these early exit polls I'm happy to blame the runway. However, to sustain the theory we would all have to believe that this bewitched runway is capable of projecting its curse onto 19R at SNA on the return trip as well. Maybe it is like an STD: I "got it" from OAK 27R and "passed it on" to SNA 19R. Let's hope not. ;>) WCG: 811D is a 1962 500A Colemill. I don't have the shop manual here, but in talking with my mechanic [who does have it], it appears that the only common wiring is at the breaker. Each light has an individual ground. After I return from a business trip [commercial, back of the bus] on Thursday, I'll take a look and report my findings. ak -----Original Message----- From: John Vormbaum [mailto:john@vormbaum.com] Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gear down, check 3 green --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Hey WAIT A MINUTE! I had a no-nosegear light on an approach to OAK 27R (in someone else's 500B...turned out to be a bad switch)! It IS the runway! /J ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gear down, check 3 green > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > > > So, Thursday I'm on approach to 27R into OAK. ATC had kept me high for > > >traffic, so now I'm gonna drop the gear and flaps to get down quickly. I > > >drop the gear and get no lights. I cycle the gear back up, then down again.> > > Still nothing. > > Alan, > Nice work! > > The problem is with the OAK Ry 27 R ILS. The only gear problem I've had in a > biz jet was on the ILS to that runway. > > What model Commander do you operate? That will be a need-to-know for trouble > shooting. (Not that I can trouble shoot it ...) > > The fine thing about a Commander is that you can see the mains. If they look > down and straight, they are. > > If it's day time and your spinners are polished, you can see the nose gear > down -- or have the tower tell you, as you so well know. > > Since you were able to cycle the gear up and down, any hydraulic problem is > not the case. With a hydraulic problem, getting the gear down is no problem > either, but that's another story. > > We know it wasn't an "O" ring so must be a micro switch, right? Those are > the causes of all airplane trouble. ;-) > > Asking for emergency equipment is the tricky call. If you do, you'll get > your 15 minutes of fame. If you don't and you do have a problem on landing, > you get 15 minutes of fame and tortured by the NTSB and FAA. > > I always ask for assistance, get to meet the fire chief, answer a few > questions for their forms and get thanked for providing them with an exercise. > > (And no, Bilbo, I know what you're thinking. This is not my SOP for all > landings. Yet.) > > Wing Commander Gordon > > == == == ==