---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/17/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:56 PM - Re: N50 (Barry Collman) 2. 02:19 PM - Re: N50 (BertBerry1@aol.com) 3. 02:43 PM - Re: N50 (Barry Collman) 4. 02:46 PM - Re: N50 (BertBerry1@aol.com) 5. 09:36 PM - Re: Re: Noise (W J R HAMILTON) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:34 PM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: N50 --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Well, it seems that people "in the know" use a 680E! Even noisy ones down-under!! Barry (UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: N50 | --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com | | HI KIDS... | | I just had a nice conversation with Ken from the FAA. No, really, it was a | nice talk. It seems that the FAA is still operating a 680E in their fleet! | Yep, N50 was purchased new by the feds and is still in their stable. It has | about 7000 TT and is flown about 150 hr. each year. It is currently assigned | to a project and flies daily. | The FAA called because they want to install Cleveland brakes on the | airplane and don't want the dual caliper style. Cleveland and TCAC sent them to | the TCFG and I will be forwarding the paperwork. Pretty cool stuff. | Also, I apologize for the lateness of the last newsletter. The next | one, July, will be in the mail in a week or so and I think everyone will really | enjoy it. That will put me back on track. There is a great story by Buddy | Plaster about the restoration of his drop dead 560E, new everything!! Also, | Wing Commander Gordon has a piece on the operation of the hydtahaulic system | and emergency procedures for the flat nacelled airplanes. I wrote a companion | piece for the bath tub models. "Sir" Barry Colman has a gerat historc | article. Lots of other stuff. | Next issue (Sept) will have a great article on the better than new | restoration of a 500A form Commander Aero. Hope all of you are planning to attend | the flyin, it is already the best response for this early, should be an | absolute ball!! Hope all is well in your Commanderland. jb | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:08 PM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: N50 --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Hey Barry, Can you tell me what the serial number was for the 680fl that NASA used I think it was N801NA or just NASA 801? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:11 PM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: N50 --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Bert, The 680F(P) NASA had was s/n 1288-131. Originally N6297X, it became NASA801, then N801NA. Transferred to the US Customs as N10710. It was withdrawn from use in June 1997 and I think is with US Air Salvage Inc., in Johnson City, TN. Kindest Regards, Barry P.S. I'll be responding to your other list shortly! ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: N50 | --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com | | Hey Barry, | | Can you tell me what the serial number was for the 680fl that NASA used I | think it was N801NA or just NASA 801? | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:53 PM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: N50 --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Thanks Much, as always, your the Man. Bert ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:38 PM PST US From: W J R HAMILTON Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Noise --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON Richard, Please give me a ring, 0408 876 526 or 02 9499 8283. There should not be a problem for you in issuing a noise certificate under the Air Navigation Act, yours is not the only aircraft flying with these engines and props, effectively you have grandfather right, and there are some other considerations. However, in Australia, all aircraft have to have a noise certificate, not just transport cat. aircraft. I have ongoing discussions under way with DOTARS, some of the low level minions have been causing trouble. Bill Hamilton. At 13:29 16/06/2004, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com > >Hi All > >I am having a great deal of fun trying to get a noise certificate from our >local aviation department. Apart from the fact that all the rules apply to >transport cat aircraft. Its like talking to a brick wall. It looks like I >am going >to have all the noise testing done. > >ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO SHUT A PAIR GSOs UP? > >I am open to all sugestions. >I feel that this might help us in the future as almost all countries are >starting to hassel us poor unfortunate folk who happen to drive these geared >wonders. > >My thoughts so far involve > >1) Perforated stacks inside a slim shroud. >2) Combining three stacks into one muffler >3) Lining the inside of the augmenter tube with a layer of fibre or mesh. > >Regards >Richard > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet Services and Warbirds.Net. & . This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. 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