Commander-List Digest Archive

Sun 07/11/04


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 08:37 AM - Re: GO-435 C2B2 help (Martini Luc J.R.)
     2. 08:39 AM - Re: GO-435 C2B2 help (Martini Luc J.R.)
     3. 12:11 PM - Re: GO-435 C2B2 help (Chris Schuermann)
     4. 01:28 PM - Re: GO-435 C2B2 help (Martini Luc J.R.)
     5. 04:30 PM - Re: GO-435 C2B2 help (Martini Luc J.R.)
     6. 04:46 PM - Re: GO-435 C2B2 help (Chris Schuermann)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:37:41 AM PST US
    From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: GO-435 C2B2 help
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net> I tried sending Bruce Campbell a section of the Lycoming Manual on Oil Sump/Pump replacement, but the message got bounced back. Must be a dead e-mail address. Luc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com> Subject: Commander-List: GO-435 C2B2 help > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com> > > I have for the last long time had a problem wth my right engine, in that the oil pressure is just at the bottom of the green. Have tried everything to fix it, and nothing simple seems to work. > > So, I think it is at least time for a new oil pump. Anyone familiar with the engine? (Chris....) In particular, is it necessary to dismantle every accessory in order to get to it? I have gotten a new pump body (no small feat, as they dont make them anymore.) and the gears are in production, so I can "just order" them. Should I also replace the driver shaft? (Again, scrounging involved, so I need to anticipate the need...) > > Also, where do you find cylinders/cam/crankshaft for a GO 435? (had a set when I got the plane, but they were stolen... So I need to find new ones). > > Etc. Any help is appreciated. > > Bruce Campbell > AC52 N4186B > >


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    Time: 08:39:43 AM PST US
    From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: GO-435 C2B2 help
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net> In re. Bruce Cambell. I reread bounce message. "Access Denied", he must have some sort of spam filter that keeps EVERYBODY out, not the way to get answers from a forum. Luc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com> Subject: Commander-List: GO-435 C2B2 help > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com> > > I have for the last long time had a problem wth my right engine, in that the oil pressure is just at the bottom of the green. Have tried everything to fix it, and nothing simple seems to work. > > So, I think it is at least time for a new oil pump. Anyone familiar with the engine? (Chris....) In particular, is it necessary to dismantle every accessory in order to get to it? I have gotten a new pump body (no small feat, as they dont make them anymore.) and the gears are in production, so I can "just order" them. Should I also replace the driver shaft? (Again, scrounging involved, so I need to anticipate the need...) > > Also, where do you find cylinders/cam/crankshaft for a GO 435? (had a set when I got the plane, but they were stolen... So I need to find new ones). > > Etc. Any help is appreciated. > > Bruce Campbell > AC52 N4186B > >


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    Time: 12:11:25 PM PST US
    From: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: GO-435 C2B2 help
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net> Bruce Campbell wrote: > I have for the last long time had a problem wth my right engine Howdy Bruce. Wow, I can't believe you're still running that right engine. She had more life in her than I expected! It's been too many years since I last had one of those apart, but I seem to recall that you can pull the accessory case off the back of the engine without splitting the case. That should give you access to the pump and housing. I'd recomend calling Central Cylinder in NB. They probably have more geared Lyc parts than anyone else. You might also check Custom Airmotive in Tulsa. They used to do a lot of GO-435s and 480s and had tons of cores. http://centralcylinder.com/ http://customairmotive.com/ > Also, where do you find cylinders/cam/crankshaft for a GO 435? (had > a set when I got the plane, but they were stolen... So I need to find > new ones). Wow, sorry to hear that. With the exception of the nose gear case, that was almost an entire engine of factory new parts. I got the cylinders from El Reno Aviation. Their number is: 405-262-2387 I have 5 cylinders which you are welcome to. They came off the engine that swallowed the exhaust valve. You could probably run them as-is for a while, but I'd STRONGLY suggest that they be overhauled. They still have 7/16" valves and there's a good chance that another would break if put back into service. They're yours if you come get 'em! Chris


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    Time: 01:28:33 PM PST US
    From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: GO-435 C2B2 help
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net> In re. Bruce: A quick read of the Lycoming Manual indicates all you do is drop the pan on a -C2 engine. I tried to send Bruce 8 pages from the manual, but they did not make it. Luc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net> Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-435 C2B2 help > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net> > > > Bruce Campbell wrote: > > I have for the last long time had a problem wth my right engine > > Howdy Bruce. Wow, I can't believe you're still running that right > engine. She had more life in her than I expected! > It's been too many years since I last had one of those apart, but I seem > to recall that you can pull the accessory case off the back of the > engine without splitting the case. That should give you access to the > pump and housing. I'd recomend calling Central Cylinder in NB. They > probably have more geared Lyc parts than anyone else. You might also > check Custom Airmotive in Tulsa. They used to do a lot of GO-435s and > 480s and had tons of cores. > http://centralcylinder.com/ > http://customairmotive.com/ > > > Also, where do you find cylinders/cam/crankshaft for a GO 435? (had > > a set when I got the plane, but they were stolen... So I need to find > > new ones). > > Wow, sorry to hear that. With the exception of the nose gear case, that > was almost an entire engine of factory new parts. I got the cylinders > from El Reno Aviation. Their number is: 405-262-2387 > > I have 5 cylinders which you are welcome to. They came off the engine > that swallowed the exhaust valve. You could probably run them as-is for > a while, but I'd STRONGLY suggest that they be overhauled. They still > have 7/16" valves and there's a good chance that another would break if > put back into service. They're yours if you come get 'em! > > Chris > >


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    Time: 04:30:36 PM PST US
    From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: GO-435 C2B2 help
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net> I checked the book again, and it looks like in the GO435-C2 you have a dry sump, with a scavenge pump in the pan, and the Pressure pump in the Gear case. The book is hard to follow since it talks to three engine types: GO435, GO480, and GO-540 each of which can come with gear cases on the back or on the side. Luc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net> Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-435 C2B2 help > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R." <martini@foxinternet.net> > > In re. Bruce: > A quick read of the Lycoming Manual indicates all you do is drop the pan on > a -C2 engine. > > I tried to send Bruce 8 pages from the manual, but they did not make it. > Luc > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: GO-435 C2B2 help > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net> > > > > > > Bruce Campbell wrote: > > > I have for the last long time had a problem wth my right engine > > > > Howdy Bruce. Wow, I can't believe you're still running that right > > engine. She had more life in her than I expected! > > It's been too many years since I last had one of those apart, but I seem > > to recall that you can pull the accessory case off the back of the > > engine without splitting the case. That should give you access to the > > pump and housing. I'd recomend calling Central Cylinder in NB. They > > probably have more geared Lyc parts than anyone else. You might also > > check Custom Airmotive in Tulsa. They used to do a lot of GO-435s and > > 480s and had tons of cores. > > http://centralcylinder.com/ > > http://customairmotive.com/ > > > > > Also, where do you find cylinders/cam/crankshaft for a GO 435? (had > > > a set when I got the plane, but they were stolen... So I need to find > > > new ones). > > > > Wow, sorry to hear that. With the exception of the nose gear case, that > > was almost an entire engine of factory new parts. I got the cylinders > > from El Reno Aviation. Their number is: 405-262-2387 > > > > I have 5 cylinders which you are welcome to. They came off the engine > > that swallowed the exhaust valve. You could probably run them as-is for > > a while, but I'd STRONGLY suggest that they be overhauled. They still > > have 7/16" valves and there's a good chance that another would break if > > put back into service. They're yours if you come get 'em! > > > > Chris > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:46:32 PM PST US
    From: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: GO-435 C2B2 help
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net> Martini Luc J.R. wrote: > I checked the book again, and it looks like in the GO435-C2 you have a dry > sump, with a scavenge pump in the pan, and the Pressure pump in the Gear > case. The book is hard to follow since it talks to three engine types: > GO435, GO480, and GO-540 each of which can come with gear cases on the back > or on the side. Nope, the 435's are wet sump. There are some dry sump versions of the 480 though. chris




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