---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/12/04: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:00 PM - Hitching a ride..?? (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 2. 05:05 PM - Re: Hitching a ride..?? (John Vormbaum) 3. 05:10 PM - Re: Hitching a ride..?? (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 4. 05:11 PM - Continental engine notes (Chris Schuermann) 5. 05:13 PM - Re: Hitching a ride..?? (Chris Schuermann) 6. 05:21 PM - Re: Hitching a ride..?? (John Vormbaum) 7. 05:51 PM - Re: Hitching a ride..?? (John Vormbaum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:38 PM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Hi Everyone, I'll be flying 53X from SBP (San Luis Obispo, CA) up to Stockton, CA for it's annual inspection by Morris K. the last week of this month. Anybody passing by Stockton headed south that week..?? Sure would like to hitch a ride home to SBP. I will, of course, cover costs for fuel...and shower you with appreciation. Sure would rather be at Oshkosh that week...but, oh well. Thanks, Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:30 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Randy, I'll be doing some work at Morris' that week prior to sending my airplane to MO for paint. I was figuring on visiting my brother in SBP, so let's talk about it and see if we coincide. /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > Hi Everyone, > I'll be flying 53X from SBP (San Luis Obispo, CA) up to Stockton, CA for it's annual inspection by Morris K. the last week of this month. Anybody passing by Stockton headed south that week..?? Sure would like to hitch a ride home to SBP. I will, of course, cover costs for fuel...and shower you with appreciation. > > Sure would rather be at Oshkosh that week...but, oh well. > > Thanks, > Randy Dettmer > 680F/N6253X > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:19 PM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Hey John...sounds great. I can drop off my plane anytime that week. Let me know what works for you. Thanks, Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > Randy, I'll be doing some work at Morris' that week prior to sending my > airplane to MO for paint. I was figuring on visiting my brother in SBP, so > let's talk about it and see if we coincide. > > /John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > To: "Commander Chat" > Subject: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I'll be flying 53X from SBP (San Luis Obispo, CA) up to Stockton, CA for > it's annual inspection by Morris K. the last week of this month. Anybody > passing by Stockton headed south that week..?? Sure would like to hitch a > ride home to SBP. I will, of course, cover costs for fuel...and shower you > with appreciation. > > > > Sure would rather be at Oshkosh that week...but, oh well. > > > > Thanks, > > Randy Dettmer > > 680F/N6253X > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:29 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Commander-List: Continental engine notes --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann Okay, several folks have asked me if there's any specific items that might help make decisions about when and how to overhaul Continental engines. Two BIG items are the case and crank. Most Continental owners (I hope) already know that the factory changed the method used to make cranks. They were having a bit of trouble with cranks breaking. The new process is refered to as VAR (vaccum arc remelt). If you have a non-VAR crank, it is required to be replaced with a VAR crank any time the case is split! This is an important note - if you have to open the case for any reason - even on a low time engine - the crank must be replaced. Did I mention that they're rather expensive? Keep that in mind if you're looking at buying an airplane that doesn't have the new crank - you never know what might happen that would require an early split. A minor prop strike requires an internal inspection for example. There have been four (I believe) revisions of the 6 cylinder Continental case assembly. If you have a first generation case, consider it a throw-away item at overhaul. They had a LOT of problems with those cases cracking. I've seen airplanes with cylinders laying in the bottom of the cowling with part of the case still attached. Only the absolute cheapest shops would consider re-using a phase I case at overhaul. THe phase III/VI cases can be identified by bumps along the upper spine of the case where the bolts go through. These are the heavier cases which are most desirable. They also have a Teledyne logo at the rear of the case - behind the right rear cylinder if memory serves. Here's where the decision making part comes in. IF you happen to have an engine with an early case and/or a non-VAR crank, you'll almost certainly want to send it in for a factory re-man. When Continental receives such an engine for overhaul, they toss the case and crank in the junk pile and you get a new case and crank at no additional cost (this will change as some point no doubt). Generally, going for a factory re-man is very cost effective in this case as a field overhauler would have to purchase a new or servicable crank and case. (and I personally hate getting "servicable" parts since I never know what happend to cause them to end up on the market and NOT in an engine). Hope I havn't make everyone paranoid now with all this engine talk! :-) Chris ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:30 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann John Vormbaum wrote: > Randy, I'll be doing some work at Morris' that week prior to sending my > airplane to MO for paint. Howdy John! I can't believe you're going to paint your airplane! :-) Where are you having it done at? Maybe I can meet up somewhere for a visit. cheers, Chris ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:07 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Hey Chris :-). Yeah, there's more metal visible now than paint, so I figure that means it's time. I'm going to a place called Hangar One in Malden, MO. The airplane will be arriving there the first week of August, but because of my work schedule, I'm not positive yet that I'll be accompanying it. I get to pick it up the weekend of the fly-in. Can you believe it? I'll be showing up to the fly-in with a brand spankin' new paint job! Woohoo! I'll ping you when the date gets closer, maybe we can connect! /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > John Vormbaum wrote: > > Randy, I'll be doing some work at Morris' that week prior to sending my > > airplane to MO for paint. > > Howdy John! > I can't believe you're going to paint your airplane! :-) > Where are you having it done at? Maybe I can meet up somewhere for a visit. > > cheers, > Chris > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:33 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" I'll give you a shout when the date gets a little closer & we'll figure it out. /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > Hey John...sounds great. I can drop off my plane anytime that week. Let me > know what works for you. > > Thanks, > Randy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Vormbaum" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > > > Randy, I'll be doing some work at Morris' that week prior to sending my > > airplane to MO for paint. I was figuring on visiting my brother in SBP, so > > let's talk about it and see if we coincide. > > > > /John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > To: "Commander Chat" > > Subject: Commander-List: Hitching a ride..?? > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I'll be flying 53X from SBP (San Luis Obispo, CA) up to Stockton, CA > for > > it's annual inspection by Morris K. the last week of this month. Anybody > > passing by Stockton headed south that week..?? Sure would like to hitch a > > ride home to SBP. I will, of course, cover costs for fuel...and shower > you > > with appreciation. > > > > > > Sure would rather be at Oshkosh that week...but, oh well. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Randy Dettmer > > > 680F/N6253X > > > > > > > > > > > >