---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/22/04: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:08 AM - Chat virus on list (nico css) 2. 08:24 AM - Re: Chat virus on list (Chris Schuermann) 3. 09:43 AM - Re: Chat virus on list (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 4. 10:03 AM - Re: Chat virus on list (John Vormbaum) 5. 10:23 AM - Re: Chat virus on list (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 6. 10:49 AM - Re: Chat virus on list (Chris Schuermann) 7. 12:49 PM - Re: Chat virus on list (Jackie) 8. 01:10 PM - Re: Chat virus on list (nico css) 9. 01:10 PM - Re: Chat virus on list (nico css 2) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:16 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: Chat virus on list --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" I keep getting email from "Chat" with virus files attached. The body of the email shows it comes from chat@skymaster.c2-tech.com. Isn't this Chris's old list address? Nico ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:27 AM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann nico css wrote: > I keep getting email from "Chat" with virus files attached. The body of the > email shows it comes from chat@skymaster.c2-tech.com. Isn't this Chris's old > list address? Someone subscribed to the list has a virus. Many of the current nasty ones send out email to everyone in their address book and the "From" address is forged from another entry in the address book. This is a huge, known hole in microsoft's email client. Should be easy enough to find as I can't imagine there are that many chat list members running Outlook with your address in their book. Take a look everyone and see if you are the guilty one.... Chris ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:15 AM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Got an email message from John Vornbaum this morning that looked VERY suspicious. It contained an attachment which most likely was a virus. I deleted it. Some nasty virus probably pulled John's name from an address book and sent the message to me. It's importent to be vigilant and alert to supicious looking emails. Good luck everyone..!! Randy Dettmer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > nico css wrote: > > I keep getting email from "Chat" with virus files attached. The body of the > > email shows it comes from chat@skymaster.c2-tech.com. Isn't this Chris's old > > list address? > > Someone subscribed to the list has a virus. Many of the current nasty > ones send out email to everyone in their address book and the "From" > address is forged from another entry in the address book. This is a > huge, known hole in microsoft's email client. Should be easy enough to > find as I can't imagine there are that many chat list members running > Outlook with your address in their book. Take a look everyone and see > if you are the guilty one.... > > Chris > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:27 AM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" I definitely didn't send anything to you, Randy. I'll check my system, although it came up clean last night... /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > Got an email message from John Vornbaum this morning that looked VERY > suspicious. It contained an attachment which most likely was a virus. I > deleted it. Some nasty virus probably pulled John's name from an address > book and sent the message to me. It's importent to be vigilant and alert to > supicious looking emails. > > Good luck everyone..!! > > Randy Dettmer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Schuermann" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > > > > nico css wrote: > > > I keep getting email from "Chat" with virus files attached. The body of > the > > > email shows it comes from chat@skymaster.c2-tech.com. Isn't this Chris's > old > > > list address? > > > > Someone subscribed to the list has a virus. Many of the current nasty > > ones send out email to everyone in their address book and the "From" > > address is forged from another entry in the address book. This is a > > huge, known hole in microsoft's email client. Should be easy enough to > > find as I can't imagine there are that many chat list members running > > Outlook with your address in their book. Take a look everyone and see > > if you are the guilty one.... > > > > Chris > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:14 AM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Hi John, That's what I figured. I'm sure that it was a rogue virus-infected program out there somewhere. Got to keep alert. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > I definitely didn't send anything to you, Randy. > > I'll check my system, although it came up clean last night... > > /John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > > > > Got an email message from John Vornbaum this morning that looked VERY > > suspicious. It contained an attachment which most likely was a virus. I > > deleted it. Some nasty virus probably pulled John's name from an address > > book and sent the message to me. It's importent to be vigilant and alert > to > > supicious looking emails. > > > > Good luck everyone..!! > > > > Randy Dettmer > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Schuermann" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > > > > > > > > nico css wrote: > > > > I keep getting email from "Chat" with virus files attached. The body > of > > the > > > > email shows it comes from chat@skymaster.c2-tech.com. Isn't this > Chris's > > old > > > > list address? > > > > > > Someone subscribed to the list has a virus. Many of the current nasty > > > ones send out email to everyone in their address book and the "From" > > > address is forged from another entry in the address book. This is a > > > huge, known hole in microsoft's email client. Should be easy enough to > > > find as I can't imagine there are that many chat list members running > > > Outlook with your address in their book. Take a look everyone and see > > > if you are the guilty one.... > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:55 AM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann Randy Dettmer, AIA wrote: > That's what I figured. I'm sure that it was a rogue virus-infected program > out there somewhere. Got to keep alert. So true Randy! The one that appeared to be from the skymaster.c2-tech.com address was a good example. Neither that computer or even the domain exists any more. Whoever had the virus had that old address in their address book still. I see nobody has "fessed up" yet :-) Chris ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list From: "Jackie" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jackie" the virus is in matronics !!! ...several "lists" are being duplicated and spread all over...i blocked yak-list@matronics.com and stopped most of my unwanted email, but it has started again (2 days later)--- On Thu 07/22, John Vormbaum john@vormbaum.com wrote: From: John Vormbaum [mailto: john@vormbaum.com]To: commander-list@matronics.comDate: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:02:54 -0700Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list-- Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" I definitely didn't send anything to you, Randy.I'll check my system, although it came up clean last night.../John----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" To: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list -- Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Got an email message from John Vornbaum this morning that looked VERY suspicious. It contained an attachment which most likely was a virus. I deleted it. Some nasty virus probably pulled John's name from an address book and sent the message to me. It's importent to be vigilant and alertto supicious looking emails. Good luck everyone..!! Randy Dettmer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" To: Subj Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:10:39 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" A possible source could be the chat list text pages, which are visible on the internet. I typed my name in google.com and many chats that I was involved in, when our email address was still c2-tech, came up in the search results. If an Internet crawler goes over these pages, it will harvest all those email addresses and who knows what these suckers do with them. The fact that the c2-tech domain has been out of circulation for quite a while already, gives credence to my theory. Go into google.com and type in "Randy Dettmer" (not the quotes) and the very first item shown is our chatlist with all sorts of email addresses in the text. Some of you might remember that when Matt took over the list, I supplied all the old chat lists from my server (I am a nut for collecting all sorts of useless things) and they also come up in that context, but with the old email addresses intact. In google type in "barry hancock commander list" (not the quotes) and you can see the old list in the archives coming up right away. That is the thread in which Milt wanted to know if I really exist. :-) Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > Randy Dettmer, AIA wrote: > > That's what I figured. I'm sure that it was a rogue virus-infected program > > out there somewhere. Got to keep alert. > > So true Randy! > The one that appeared to be from the skymaster.c2-tech.com address was a > good example. Neither that computer or even the domain exists any more. > Whoever had the virus had that old address in their address book still. > I see nobody has "fessed up" yet :-) > > Chris > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:10:58 PM PST US From: "nico css 2" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css 2" They spoof our names. How they get hold of them is a mystery, or an art in deception. I noticed that names of people that I communicate with appear as "From" people in spam mails. They are not even in my address book. So, now we are aware of them. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > I definitely didn't send anything to you, Randy. > > I'll check my system, although it came up clean last night... > > /John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > > > > Got an email message from John Vornbaum this morning that looked VERY > > suspicious. It contained an attachment which most likely was a virus. I > > deleted it. Some nasty virus probably pulled John's name from an address > > book and sent the message to me. It's importent to be vigilant and alert > to > > supicious looking emails. > > > > Good luck everyone..!! > > > > Randy Dettmer > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Schuermann" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Chat virus on list > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > > > > > > > > nico css wrote: > > > > I keep getting email from "Chat" with virus files attached. The body > of > > the > > > > email shows it comes from chat@skymaster.c2-tech.com. Isn't this > Chris's > > old > > > > list address? > > > > > > Someone subscribed to the list has a virus. Many of the current nasty > > > ones send out email to everyone in their address book and the "From" > > > address is forged from another entry in the address book. This is a > > > huge, known hole in microsoft's email client. Should be easy enough to > > > find as I can't imagine there are that many chat list members running > > > Outlook with your address in their book. Take a look everyone and see > > > if you are the guilty one.... > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > >