Today's Message Index:
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1. 08:13 AM - Re: Prayer (David)
2. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: Prayer (TILLMAN333@aol.com)
3. 09:24 AM - Re: Prayer (Bobby Sather)
4. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: Prayer (Lowell Girod)
5. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: Prayer (Bill Bow)
6. 11:38 AM - (Jim Addington)
7. 11:56 AM - Re: (Cory Emberson)
8. 02:13 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Jody Pillatzki)
9. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Bruce Campbell)
10. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
11. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Bobby Sather)
12. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Bill Bow)
13. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Bobby Sather)
14. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Robert Steele)
15. 05:18 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Deneal Schilmeister (Portege))
16. 10:04 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (tylor.hall)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is as devoutly
religious as some.
This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is innappropriate and
offensive.
Dave
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--> Commander-List message posted by: TILLMAN333@aol.com
Hey Dave,
As for prayer....It does not offend me.
When the engine quits, is when I do my best praying.
Have a great day.
Gary Tillman, Pres.
Av. Ins. Brokers of NA
http://www.flysafeinsurance.com/
800-228-4283
706-291-4077 office
706-238-1143 cell
706-232-3081 fax
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bobby Sather" <sather@charter.net>
Too Bad Dave. I for one appreciate the letter on prayer. This country was
built on prayer and if prayer will help put the right person in office so I
can still enjoy the right to fly and go the places I want. Then let prayers
flow. And if it offends you then don't read the list. Thats one of the
reason we are allowed freedom to worship as we please and read the items
want to and not read the ones we don't and pray if we want too.
Bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
>
> To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
>
> Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
>
> Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is as
devoutly religious as some.
>
> This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is innappropriate
and offensive.
>
> Dave
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" <dongirod@earthlink.net>
Ditto!! And I don't wait for the engine to quit. Makes my whole day go
better and I take offense at anyone that belittles my prayer life! But
then they haven't walked in my shoes either.
Don
[Original Message]
From: <TILLMAN333@aol.com>
To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
Date: 10/7/2004 11:27:40 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
Commander-List message posted by: TILLMAN333@aol.com
Hey Dave,
As for prayer....It does not offend me.
When the engine quits, is when I do my best praying.
Have a great day.
Gary Tillman, Pres.
Av. Ins. Brokers of NA
http://www.flysafeinsurance.com/
800-228-4283
706-291-4077 office
706-238-1143 cell
706-232-3081 fax
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Who said everyone is a Christian?
It amazes me what some people find offensive. My initial 2 word response
ending in the word "you" would not have been very Christian, but it
certainly would have been considered quite offensive by most. :>)
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
>
> To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
>
> Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
>
> Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is as
> devoutly religious as some.
>
> This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is innappropriate
> and offensive.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
It looks like the 85% for prayer 15% against rule applies here too. Count me
on the prayer side too especially last week when the engine tried to quit on
my Citabria.
Jim A
N444BD
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
I prayed plenty during my first long cross-country over the terrain near
Priest VOR (coincidental, I'm sure!).
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Subject: Commander-List:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
It looks like the 85% for prayer 15% against rule applies here too. Count me
on the prayer side too especially last week when the engine tried to quit on
my Citabria.
Jim A
N444BD
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody Pillatzki" <Jpillatzki@702com.net>
You know what really bothers me is that we are supposed to have freedom of
religion over here but the only ones who have that are the atheists.
Jody
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
>
> To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
>
> Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
>
> Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is as
devoutly religious as some.
>
> This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is innappropriate
and offensive.
>
> Dave
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <baruch@intelligentflight.com>
I didn't see the original posting, but as an observant Jew, I don't have any
problems with people of other religions practicing their religion so long as
its not exclusive and they respect mine.
From the description of the posting given, I don't see that it violated
that.
Bruce Campbell
AC52 N4186B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
>
> Who said everyone is a Christian?
>
> It amazes me what some people find offensive. My initial 2 word response
> ending in the word "you" would not have been very Christian, but it
> certainly would have been considered quite offensive by most. :>)
>
> bilbo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
> >
> > To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
> >
> > Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
> >
> > Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is
as
> > devoutly religious as some.
> >
> > This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is
innappropriate
> > and offensive.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
One of the wonderful aspects about freedom, and our way of life, is that we
can say and express ourselves in any way we like. And, we have the freedom
to listen, read, and pay attention...or not. Personally, I appreciate the
opportunity to hear others opinions and feelings about their lives and
spirituality. I may not agree all the time, but I sure get to learn more
about those folks, and know what makes them tick. Sure makes for an
interesting world.
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jody
Pillatzki
Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody Pillatzki"
<Jpillatzki@702com.net>
You know what really bothers me is that we are supposed to have freedom of
religion over here but the only ones who have that are the atheists.
Jody
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
>
> To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
>
> Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
>
> Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is as
devoutly religious as some.
>
> This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is innappropriate
and offensive.
>
> Dave
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bobby Sather" <sather@charter.net>
As time comes to a close for all of us. Most times an atheist when he feels
the devil biting on his butt will find religion and a supreme being really
quick. Very few true atheists. There just waiting on the fence until they
have to make a decision. Sometimes wish we could help them make a decision.
Or as I believe General Norman H. Swarzkopf said. "It is God's
responsibilty to judge. It is our responsibilty to arrange the meeting."
Bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jody Pillatzki" <Jpillatzki@702com.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody Pillatzki"
<Jpillatzki@702com.net>
>
> You know what really bothers me is that we are supposed to have freedom of
> religion over here but the only ones who have that are the atheists.
>
> Jody
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
> >
> > To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
> >
> > Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
> >
> > Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is
as
> devoutly religious as some.
> >
> > This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is
innappropriate
> and offensive.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Maybe he isn't an atheist but is just for the other candidate.
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Sather" <sather@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bobby Sather" <sather@charter.net>
>
> As time comes to a close for all of us. Most times an atheist when he
> feels
> the devil biting on his butt will find religion and a supreme being really
> quick. Very few true atheists. There just waiting on the fence until they
> have to make a decision. Sometimes wish we could help them make a
> decision.
> Or as I believe General Norman H. Swarzkopf said. "It is God's
> responsibilty to judge. It is our responsibilty to arrange the meeting."
>
> Bobby
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jody Pillatzki" <Jpillatzki@702com.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
>
>
>> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody Pillatzki"
> <Jpillatzki@702com.net>
>>
>> You know what really bothers me is that we are supposed to have freedom
>> of
>> religion over here but the only ones who have that are the atheists.
>>
>> Jody
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
>> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
>>
>>
>> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
>> >
>> > To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
>> >
>> > Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
>> >
>> > Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is
> as
>> devoutly religious as some.
>> >
>> > This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is
> innappropriate
>> and offensive.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bobby Sather" <sather@charter.net>
Well the other candidate really needs a prayer. I'm sure with his running
mate he is deep in prayer every night. Weeellllll, maybe not. You can't
B.S. God.
bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
>
> Maybe he isn't an atheist but is just for the other candidate.
>
> bilbo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bobby Sather" <sather@charter.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bobby Sather"
<sather@charter.net>
> >
> > As time comes to a close for all of us. Most times an atheist when he
> > feels
> > the devil biting on his butt will find religion and a supreme being
really
> > quick. Very few true atheists. There just waiting on the fence until
they
> > have to make a decision. Sometimes wish we could help them make a
> > decision.
> > Or as I believe General Norman H. Swarzkopf said. "It is God's
> > responsibilty to judge. It is our responsibilty to arrange the meeting."
> >
> > Bobby
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jody Pillatzki" <Jpillatzki@702com.net>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> >
> >
> >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody Pillatzki"
> > <Jpillatzki@702com.net>
> >>
> >> You know what really bothers me is that we are supposed to have freedom
> >> of
> >> religion over here but the only ones who have that are the atheists.
> >>
> >> Jody
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
> >> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> >> Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> >>
> >>
> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
> >> >
> >> > To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
> >> >
> >> > Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this
list.
> >> >
> >> > Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone
is
> > as
> >> devoutly religious as some.
> >> >
> >> > This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is
> > innappropriate
> >> and offensive.
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert Steele" <bob.steele@kzf.com>
Dave,
You seem intolerant.
Good Luck with that.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David
Subject: Commander-List: re: Prayer
--> Commander-List message posted by: "David" <rocket@swmrmc.org>
To my knowledge this is an aviation (twin commander) oriented list.
Religion belongs in the heart, the home, and church. Not on this list.
Not everyone who peruses this forum is a Christian and not everyone is as
devoutly religious as some.
This most recent diatribe about a Christian prater group is innappropriate
and offensive.
Dave
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" <deneals@sbcglobal.net>
Gosh I'm glad there's another Heeb here. Last year I was in Cincinnati
during the Commander get-together but didn't know about it until afterward.
I really wanted to go this year, but it was scheduled on a day when even
non-observant Jews could not attend.
___________________________
Deneal Schilmeister
St. Louis - Cincinnati
1997 SL500
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
<baruch@intelligentflight.com>
I didn't see the original posting, but as an observant Jew, I don't have any
problems with people of other religions practicing their religion so long as
its not exclusive and they respect mine.
From the description of the posting given, I don't see that it violated
that.
Bruce Campbell
AC52 N4186B
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" <tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net>
Happy New Year.
Any one going to NBAA this year?
I will be there starting next Tuesday.
Wing Commander, Will you be in Las Vegas that week?
Tylor Hall
970-946-7472
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)"
<deneals@sbcglobal.net>
Gosh I'm glad there's another Heeb here. Last year I was in Cincinnati
during the Commander get-together but didn't know about it until afterward.
I really wanted to go this year, but it was scheduled on a day when even
non-observant Jews could not attend.
___________________________
Deneal Schilmeister
St. Louis - Cincinnati
1997 SL500
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
<baruch@intelligentflight.com>
I didn't see the original posting, but as an observant Jew, I don't have any
problems with people of other religions practicing their religion so long as
its not exclusive and they respect mine.
From the description of the posting given, I don't see that it violated
that.
Bruce Campbell
AC52 N4186B
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