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1. 04:30 AM - Re: Oh come on, Martini. (RnJThompson@aol.com)
2. 04:37 AM - Re:Heater parts (RnJThompson@aol.com)
3. 05:54 AM - Prayer (Dan Farmer)
4. 06:09 AM - Re: Re:Heater parts (Jim Crunkleton)
5. 09:31 AM - Re: Re:Heater parts (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
6. 09:36 AM - Re: Re:Heater parts (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
7. 05:01 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (Phil Stubbs)
8. 05:24 PM - Re: Re: Prayer (nico css)
9. 06:24 PM - Re: Oh come on, Martini. (nico css)
10. 06:35 PM - Disturbed (Barry Hancock)
11. 09:00 PM - Re: Disturbed (nico css)
12. 09:16 PM - Re: Disturbed (Cory Emberson)
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| Subject: | Re: Oh come on, Martini. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com
Gentlemen,
ENOUGH.
Every man is entitled to his own beliefs.
GETTING BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF MR SMITHS AEOPLANES PLEASE.
Regards
Richard
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--> Commander-List message posted by: RnJThompson@aol.com
Anybody know the email address or phone number of the heater boys. I think
they called themselves Aircrfat Heating or something. I need to get hold of some
Janitrol parts reasonably quickly. The parts are not easily availiable down
here in OZ.
Regards
Richard
(680Es Rule along with Super Cubs)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
Gentlemen and Ladies:
It would be nice if all of those who are interested could get back to Mr Eisners
original request of having a minute of prayer over the decision this GREAT country
is about to partake. (I hope I have not offended anyone calling this a
GREAT country).
We can always pray for the non believers amongst us. Most of the time I find them
to be very nice and well meaning individuals, with whom I enjoy discussing
subjects such as Commanders.
May I paraphrase the Bible now and suggest "we stomp the dust from our feet" and
move away from this divisive issue.
I believe Mr. Einsner suggested 9:00am ET, 8CT, 7MT and 6PT.
To the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Ted Smith and Twin Commanders!!!
In Christ.
dan farmer
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Crunkleton" <crunk12@bellsouth.net>
Jim Bob,
You left a bit too early!
Friday evening a chap flying a beautiful Tiger Moth experienced a gear
failure on take-off from Peachtree City Falcon field. (albeit unknown to
him.) Witnesses on the ground saw his problem and phoned his home strip to
alert them to the problem.
He's based at a strip near mine, and I know him.
As he returned to his strip everyone was out waving at him, trying to let
him know he had a gear problem, and not being able to decipher what they
were waving about, he waved back!
He decided to drop in and see what was happening at my strip and came in for
a landing. I saw him just as the gear had touched (beautiful landing) and
suddenly the left main gear collapsed!
It dug in and spun the plane 180 degress and started sliding toward my
hanger before coming to rest at the edge of the designated grass runway.
He was able to keep the prop from touching and did a marvelous job of
handling a 'quick and dirty' emergency.
Later inspection showed that a casting that holds the gear together had
failed.
The only damage to the plane was a couple of broken nose ribs to the
outboard leading edge of the left wing!
He also exceeded the right rudder stop--can you say adrenaline!!!
Somehow the local news stations got wind of the incident and were spouting,
"Plane Crash In Coweta County!" "A vintage biplane made an emergency crash
landing at Big T airport when the pilot was unable to get his landing gear
down!" Gee, must have been a slow news night.
My hanger is now housing a Commander 560F, a RV-8, and a slightly injured
Tiger Moth. (Richard, it was restored by a gent to the exact configuration
of the one he first soloed in Australia!)
It appears the aviation community is a tighly-knit, world wide group!
Jim Crunkleton
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 10/10/2004 4:37:39 AM Pacific Standard Time,
RnJThompson@aol.com writes:
The parts are not easily availiable down
here in OZ.
AIRCRAFT ENVIROMENTAL SYSTEMS
GRIFFIN GA 1-866- WARMAIR (927-6247) Thgey were a the flyin in SC. Great
folks!! jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
Sorry I missed all the action!! Glad he is OK. Jim, I desperately need
some info. I forgot to get the dates and tach times for the installation of
each engine and I wrote the serial number down twice (I somehow didn't get both
S/Ns for the engines). I cant finish the report without that info. Sorry
to have been so scatterbrained, it must be this stinking cold!! Thanks for
you earliest reply. jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
More people have died in the name of god than from any other cause.
The intolerance of the so called "Christian" writing the words below are
so typical of the loudest of Bible thumpers.
I don't think this is what Jesus had in mind!
J.P. Stubbs
> [Original Message]
> From: Bobby Sather <sather@charter.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/9/2004 11:38:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bobby Sather" <sather@charter.net>
>
> I call B***S***. If you are all that you say you are. How do you think
you
> got here in the first place. Did buzzard crap you on a rock and the sun
> hatch you. I think you are a legend in your own mind. I have faith that
you
> will know in the end and then it will be to late for you. Where do you
> think this all came from. I fine man with your intelligence should have
an
> answer for that with the superb education you say you have. It always
> amazes me that a person can have all the intelligence in the world and
still
> not have brain one. I think you may be caught up in the big me me me I I
I
> syndrome. Your me me me I I I last only as long as the Supreme God will
> allow. I'll keep my eye open for your flame out. Good Luck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martinil@comcast.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R."
> <martinil@comcast.net>
> >
> > Glad to oblige leaving such a bigoted group.
> > By for further enlightenment... are the "scriptures" y you refer to (of
> > which there were at least 3 different versions), were right, but those
in
> > "time and place" weren't as enlightened as you are 2000 years later; yet
> the
> > Peer Group sought fit to burn at the stake, asunder on the rack, run
> thought
> > with red hot irons, etc. etc. tens of thousands of those that had other
> > opinions on such subjects as the "flat earth" the "earth centered
> universe"
> > etc. etc. And, as a linguist who speaks 7 foreign languages
fluently, I
> > can give expert opinion, that YOU and most likely any of your peers,
> haven't
> > got a clue what those scriptures actually say, much less what the
> > sociological context of the words were; not to mention that what you are
> > reading (in Elizabethan English - and you no doubt don't know half the
> words
> > of that although it is the basis of the language you speak that goes
back
> > only about 150 years), was the product of at least 3 translations, each
by
> > bigots with unmistakable agendas.... So BELIEVE and DREAM on!
> > And by all means pray rather than believe in science and fine
engineering,
> > and let's see gets to hell first.
> >
> > Martini
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 10/9/2004 1:05:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > martinil@comcast.net writes:
> > >
> > > if science was left in the hand of your
> > > religious peers, you would still believe that the earth was flat and
> the
> > > center of the universe;
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually that is not true. The Bible lines up perfectly with
science.
> > > The
> > > scriptures state that the "God sits above the sphere of the earth"
> Hardly
> > > flat. Infact, Columbus sailed because he read and believed that. It
> > > goes on
> > > the state that "The earth hangs as if suspended by nothing" Wow,
isn't
> > > that
> > > how it really looks. I wonder how the Bible scholars got it right??
> > > Sorry to
> > > hear you will be leaving the list, there is a lot of great
information
> > > here.
> > > Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
One needs to check the "owners manual", just like in your plane, to see what
the operating procedures are. Misuse them and you will come unstuck.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Stubbs" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Phil Stubbs"
<br549phil@mindspring.com>
>
> More people have died in the name of god than from any other cause.
> The intolerance of the so called "Christian" writing the words below are
> so typical of the loudest of Bible thumpers.
> I don't think this is what Jesus had in mind!
> J.P. Stubbs
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Bobby Sather <sather@charter.net>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 10/9/2004 11:38:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> >
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bobby Sather"
<sather@charter.net>
> >
> > I call B***S***. If you are all that you say you are. How do you think
> you
> > got here in the first place. Did buzzard crap you on a rock and the sun
> > hatch you. I think you are a legend in your own mind. I have faith that
> you
> > will know in the end and then it will be to late for you. Where do you
> > think this all came from. I fine man with your intelligence should have
> an
> > answer for that with the superb education you say you have. It always
> > amazes me that a person can have all the intelligence in the world and
> still
> > not have brain one. I think you may be caught up in the big me me me I
I
> I
> > syndrome. Your me me me I I I last only as long as the Supreme God will
> > allow. I'll keep my eye open for your flame out. Good Luck
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martini Luc J.R." <martinil@comcast.net>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Martini Luc J.R."
> > <martinil@comcast.net>
> > >
> > > Glad to oblige leaving such a bigoted group.
> > > By for further enlightenment... are the "scriptures" y you refer to
(of
> > > which there were at least 3 different versions), were right, but those
> in
> > > "time and place" weren't as enlightened as you are 2000 years later;
yet
> > the
> > > Peer Group sought fit to burn at the stake, asunder on the rack, run
> > thought
> > > with red hot irons, etc. etc. tens of thousands of those that had
other
> > > opinions on such subjects as the "flat earth" the "earth centered
> > universe"
> > > etc. etc. And, as a linguist who speaks 7 foreign languages
> fluently, I
> > > can give expert opinion, that YOU and most likely any of your peers,
> > haven't
> > > got a clue what those scriptures actually say, much less what the
> > > sociological context of the words were; not to mention that what you
are
> > > reading (in Elizabethan English - and you no doubt don't know half the
> > words
> > > of that although it is the basis of the language you speak that goes
> back
> > > only about 150 years), was the product of at least 3 translations,
each
> by
> > > bigots with unmistakable agendas.... So BELIEVE and DREAM on!
> > > And by all means pray rather than believe in science and fine
> engineering,
> > > and let's see gets to hell first.
> > >
> > > Martini
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: re: Prayer
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 10/9/2004 1:05:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > > martinil@comcast.net writes:
> > > >
> > > > if science was left in the hand of your
> > > > religious peers, you would still believe that the earth was flat
and
> > the
> > > > center of the universe;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually that is not true. The Bible lines up perfectly with
> science.
> > > > The
> > > > scriptures state that the "God sits above the sphere of the earth"
> > Hardly
> > > > flat. Infact, Columbus sailed because he read and believed that.
It
> > > > goes on
> > > > the state that "The earth hangs as if suspended by nothing" Wow,
> isn't
> > > > that
> > > > how it really looks. I wonder how the Bible scholars got it
right??
> > > > Sorry to
> > > > hear you will be leaving the list, there is a lot of great
> information
> > > > here.
> > > > Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oh come on, Martini. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Still sorry that I had to let her go. The project that I am seeking funding
for now (I have a presentation to make to venture capitalists on the 20th)
will change many things. It will hit the press big time, too.
I will keep you guys informed. It might lead to a -10.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Oh come on, Martini.
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 10/9/2004 10:26:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
>
> Stay with the list if you wish, we are just a happy bunch who likes to
talk
> about what is dear to us. Aviation is one of them, Commanders is another.
>
>
> THANKS NICO....That was amazing!! How is you Commander doing these
days??
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
Gang,
I have followed the most recent thread with interest turned to
disappointment turned to horror. As much as this list is about
Commanders and aviation, it is also about the people that fly (and by
default LOVE) these wonderful machines.
DISAPPOINTMENT
Martini, I don't know you, you don't know me. However, the question is
why such intolerance? Obviously your views differ from others as well.
That's OK. Why is it not OK for people to voice views that run
contrary to yours? Why is it necessary to challenge people that they
are going to hell for holding those beliefs? Instead of condemning
others, wouldn't it be more productive to simply espouse your own
beliefs?
HORROR
If we proclaim that we are a son of God, would it not follow then that
we would treat all others the same? Namely with compassion and
understanding? It is one thing to boldly proclaim the gospel, it is
quite another to predict and even anticipate others demise. The gospel
of Jesus Christ is one of optimism, hope, love, and opportunity beyond
our wildest dreams, not fire and brimstone.
We would all do much better to focus on being honest, true, chaste,
benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men than to take pot
shots from behind the keyboards of Commander land. If you don't like
what someone posts, don't get personal, use your right to hit the
delete key!
Barry
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Very well said, Barry. As I said, read the Christian's owner's manual if you
want to establish whether one's a Christian. It goes for other doctrines
also. Read the Quran (their owner's manual) if you want to know what are we
doing in Iraq.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hancock" <radialpower@cox.net>
Subject: Commander-List: Disturbed
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net>
>
> Gang,
>
> I have followed the most recent thread with interest turned to
> disappointment turned to horror. As much as this list is about
> Commanders and aviation, it is also about the people that fly (and by
> default LOVE) these wonderful machines.
>
> DISAPPOINTMENT
>
> Martini, I don't know you, you don't know me. However, the question is
> why such intolerance? Obviously your views differ from others as well.
> That's OK. Why is it not OK for people to voice views that run
> contrary to yours? Why is it necessary to challenge people that they
> are going to hell for holding those beliefs? Instead of condemning
> others, wouldn't it be more productive to simply espouse your own
> beliefs?
>
> HORROR
>
> If we proclaim that we are a son of God, would it not follow then that
> we would treat all others the same? Namely with compassion and
> understanding? It is one thing to boldly proclaim the gospel, it is
> quite another to predict and even anticipate others demise. The gospel
> of Jesus Christ is one of optimism, hope, love, and opportunity beyond
> our wildest dreams, not fire and brimstone.
>
> We would all do much better to focus on being honest, true, chaste,
> benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men than to take pot
> shots from behind the keyboards of Commander land. If you don't like
> what someone posts, don't get personal, use your right to hit the
> delete key!
>
> Barry
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Barry, thank you for an eloquent and compassionate post.
Best, Cory
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