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1. 05:55 AM - Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment (Tommy Mathieu)
2. 06:02 AM - Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment (Tommy Mathieu)
3. 06:10 AM - Save the Aero Commander 520 (Barry Collman)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment (James Rodriguez Colom)
5. 06:49 AM - Re: Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment (William Boelte)
6. 10:58 AM - Re: Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment (John Vormbaum)
7. 11:33 AM - Re: Save the Aero Commander 520 (Derek Monk)
8. 12:05 PM - Re: Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment (Ukadamwest09@aol.com)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tommy Mathieu" <tmathieu@msn.com>
This is my first post. I just purchased a 500 S a few months ago and I
am contemplating a paint and interior job. Does anyone know what kind of
cost I will probably run into and does anyone have any suggestions on
firms with an excellent track record.
Thanks,
Tommy Mathieu
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tommy Mathieu" <tmathieu@msn.com>
This is my first post. I just purchased a 500 S a few months ago and I
am contemplating a paint and interior job. Does anyone know what kind of
cost I will probably run into and does anyone have any suggestions on
firms with an excellent track record.
Thanks,
Tommy Mathieu
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| Subject: | Save the Aero Commander 520 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi guys,
For me, it will be a very sad day if we lose the very first production Aero
Commander.
The prototype (L-3805) has already been saved, being on exhibition in the
Oklahoma City State Fairgrounds. My understanding is that when funds are
available, it will be taken down from the pole it is sitting atop, and work
undertaken to refurbish it for the benefit of future generations.
Model 520, serial number 1, N4100B was rolled out on August 24th 1951 and made
its first flight on August 27th.
It was later sold to the giant Asahi-Shimbun Newspaper Company in Tokyo, Japan
and the registration mark JA5001 was the first one issued in the new
twin-engined piston aircraft series. They named it 'Hatsukaze', meaning 'First
Wind'. After passing through two further owners, it was placed on permanent
display on roof-top museum at Okayama Airport in September 1963.
So, the question is, do we allow this aircraft to be scrapped?
If not, what can be done to save it?
Of course, the cost involved is probably like 'how long is a bit of string' at
the moment, but if anyone has any ideas from previous experience, let us know.
Could the Flight Group participate, along with, say, the City of Oklahoma, the
Service Centers?
It seems we need to move fairly quickly, so if anybody has a bright idea, let us
know!
Very Best Regards,
Barry
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Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: FW: save the aero-commander 520
Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
Subject: FW: save the aero-commander 520
From: "Jeff Cousins" <jcousins@twincommander.com>
Jim:
Sounds like this one has already left the realm of flight.
Jeff Cousins
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Pence
Subject: RE: save the aero-commander 520
The aircraft referenced is S/N 520-1
Delivered to Asshi Shimbum Press August 21, 1952
The last I heard it was on static display in Japan.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Cousins
Subject: FW: save the aero-commander 520
FYI. If anyone knows of someone interested in a 520??????
Jeff Cousins
-----Original Message-----
From: TASM [mailto:tasm@npotown.net]
Subject: save the aero-commander 520
From Takamasa koda
Dear sir,
We are worried about the most rare airplane that was made after the WW-2 named
AERO COMMANDER 520.
I've heard of this airplane is the first product AERO COMMANDER.
The owner wants to know how to disposal the plane.
It will be destroyed after shortly this month.
No one wants to help this airplane in Japan.
So, Please serarch quickly someone who can preserve this historic airplane.
Owner's URL:http://www.pref.okayama.jp/doboku/kounan/top.html
Phone: 086-262-0954
Fax : 086-262-5220
Address: Kounan airport
639-1 Urayasu minami-cho
Okayama shi 702-8024
c/o Kounan airport
Okayama pref.
JAPAN
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| Subject: | Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "James Rodriguez Colom" <jamesrodriguez@bppr.com>
Tommy,
Welcome. Check schemedesigners.com for recommended paint shops.
Jimmy
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Subject: Commander-List: Questions concerning painting & interior
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tommy Mathieu" <tmathieu@msn.com>
This is my first post. I just purchased a 500 S a few months ago and I
am contemplating a paint and interior job. Does anyone know what kind of
cost I will probably run into and does anyone have any suggestions on
firms with an excellent track record.
Thanks,
Tommy Mathieu
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| Subject: | Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "William Boelte" <n55bz@cox-internet.com>
Gray's Aircraft Refinishing in Ozark AR repainted a 500B for me in 1997.
The result was Outstanding! They charged $11,700 to strip and paint and
replace all of the steel screws and camlocs with stainless and to
replace all of the control surface bearings in addition to the painting.
Last year Gray's painted two C-180's for me. The result was also
Outstanding. They charged $8,600 each.
An interior shop in Morrilton, AR did the interiors on the two C-180's
(I am embarrassed to say that I can't remember the name of the shop) in
leather. The result is beautiful. There were no problems, it was a slick
job. They coordinated moving the airplanes to Gray's for the painting
and then back to Morrilton for the interiors. They charged $8,500 each.
They are the only shop in Morrilton- they are at Pettit Jean airport.
Hope that helps.
Kindest regards,
Bill
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tommy
Mathieu
Subject: Commander-List: Questions concerning painting & interior
refurbishment
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tommy Mathieu" <tmathieu@msn.com>
This is my first post. I just purchased a 500 S a few months ago and I
am contemplating a paint and interior job. Does anyone know what kind of
cost I will probably run into and does anyone have any suggestions on
firms with an excellent track record.
Thanks,
Tommy Mathieu
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| Subject: | Re: Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Tommy,
My 500B will be finished TODAY, at Hangar One in Malden, MO (573)276-1400.
Mike, the owner, charged me $22,500 for strip & paint (with stripes), and an
entirely new grey leather interior, with accents to pick up the outside
stripes. Mike is accustomed to working on Gulfstream-level bizjets, so his
standards seem very high.
My airplane was in dire condition and was probably a challenge to work on.
Needless to say, the digital pictures I've seen so far are beautiful. Not to
mention, he knows some Commander people and seems to have a soft spot for
us--he should give you a pretty good deal.
Cheers,
/John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tommy Mathieu" <tmathieu@msn.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Questions concerning painting & interior
refurbishment
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tommy Mathieu" <tmathieu@msn.com>
>
> This is my first post. I just purchased a 500 S a few months ago and I
> am contemplating a paint and interior job. Does anyone know what kind of
> cost I will probably run into and does anyone have any suggestions on
> firms with an excellent track record.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tommy Mathieu
>
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| Subject: | Re: Save the Aero Commander 520 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Derek Monk <britmonk@adelphia.net>
It will be great if 520-1 ends up in its birthplace Oklahoma City where
I worked in the Bethany Aero Commander plant (Gulfstream by then) for
nine years.
If someone will coordinate the activity to acquire it for posterity, I
will be pleased to contribute.
Derek Monk
Barry Collman wrote:
>--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
>Hi guys,
>
>For me, it will be a very sad day if we lose the very first production Aero
>Commander.
>
>The prototype (L-3805) has already been saved, being on exhibition in the
>Oklahoma City State Fairgrounds. My understanding is that when funds are
>available, it will be taken down from the pole it is sitting atop, and work
>undertaken to refurbish it for the benefit of future generations.
>
>Model 520, serial number 1, N4100B was rolled out on August 24th 1951 and made
>its first flight on August 27th.
>It was later sold to the giant Asahi-Shimbun Newspaper Company in Tokyo, Japan
>and the registration mark JA5001 was the first one issued in the new
>twin-engined piston aircraft series. They named it 'Hatsukaze', meaning 'First
>Wind'. After passing through two further owners, it was placed on permanent
>display on roof-top museum at Okayama Airport in September 1963.
>
>So, the question is, do we allow this aircraft to be scrapped?
>
>If not, what can be done to save it?
>
>Of course, the cost involved is probably like 'how long is a bit of string' at
>the moment, but if anyone has any ideas from previous experience, let us know.
>
>Could the Flight Group participate, along with, say, the City of Oklahoma, the
>Service Centers?
>
>It seems we need to move fairly quickly, so if anybody has a bright idea, let
us
>know!
>
>Very Best Regards,
>Barry
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: FW: save the aero-commander 520
>
>Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>Subject: FW: save the aero-commander 520
>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:27:24 -0800
>From: "Jeff Cousins" <jcousins@twincommander.com>
>To: yourtcfg@aol.com
>
>Jim:
>
>Sounds like this one has already left the realm of flight.
>
>Jeff Cousins
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Geoffrey Pence
>To: Jeff Cousins
>Subject: RE: save the aero-commander 520
>
>The aircraft referenced is S/N 520-1
>Delivered to Asshi Shimbum Press August 21, 1952
>The last I heard it was on static display in Japan.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Cousins
>To: Ted Finck; Pierre Debruge; Geoffrey Pence; Jim Metzger (yourtcfg@aol.com)
>Subject: FW: save the aero-commander 520
>
>FYI. If anyone knows of someone interested in a 520??????
>
>Jeff Cousins
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TASM [mailto:tasm@npotown.net]
>To: Jeff Cousins
>Subject: save the aero-commander 520
>
>>From Takamasa koda
>Dear sir,
>We are worried about the most rare airplane that was made after the WW-2 named
>AERO COMMANDER 520.
>I've heard of this airplane is the first product AERO COMMANDER.
>The owner wants to know how to disposal the plane.
>It will be destroyed after shortly this month.
>No one wants to help this airplane in Japan.
>So, Please serarch quickly someone who can preserve this historic airplane.
>
>Owner's URL:http://www.pref.okayama.jp/doboku/kounan/top.html
>Phone: 086-262-0954
>Fax : 086-262-5220
>Address: Kounan airport
>639-1 Urayasu minami-cho
>Okayama shi 702-8024
>c/o Kounan airport
>Okayama pref.
>JAPAN
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Questions concerning painting & interior refurbishment |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Ukadamwest09@aol.com
I second that.
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