---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/13/04: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:18 PM - Fw: HOLIDAY SEASON] (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 2. 02:25 PM - Fw: Commander 560 for sale (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 3. 03:18 PM - Re: Fw: Commander 560 for sale (Moe) 4. 03:33 PM - Commander 500 (Curtis Perry) 5. 04:18 PM - Re: Commander 500 (W J R HAMILTON) 6. 04:30 PM - Re: Commander 500 (Chris Schuermann) 7. 09:58 PM - Re: Commander 500 - Automotive Fuel? (CloudCraft@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:41 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" "carol haskins" , "CLOUDCRAFT" , "commander-list" , "DAN BRUHL" , "diane yoder" , "fbailey" , "FEDERICO M VELEZ" , "George Chevaillier" , "ISSAC MANNING" , "Jay Decker" , "JOANN CHEVAILLIER" , "JODY MASTIN" , "JOE PACE" , "john chambers" , "MOE MILLS" , "SCOTT PARKER" , "STEVE NORRIS" , "Thrasher, Cindy" , "TROY WELCH" , "W. Kent Riley" Subject: Commander-List: Fw: HOLIDAY SEASON] Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:17:53 -0600 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Message ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurin Chevaillier Subject: FW: HOLIDAY SEASON] -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Caruso Subject: FW: HOLIDAY SEASON] Holiday Season As we enter the holiday season, I think it's important for everyone to step back and remember that we can all have fun without getting dangerous. I've attached a rather graphic picture of an overdose victim, not for its shock value, but in the hope that everyone remains aware of his or her limits. When you look at this picture, remember that this did not have to happen ... Happy Holidays! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:00 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: Commander 560 for sale --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com by mail.sproutsoftware.com (Sprout Mailserver v2.8) with ASMTP id HRA74611 From: "Daniel Stewart" Subject: Commander 560 for sale Hello, I have a 54' Commander 560 (sn 186) I would like to sell. Can you recommend a good place to list it? Thanks, Daniel Stewart ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:32 PM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fwd: Commander 560 for sale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Danial, How much do you want for it? What kind of condition? Regards, Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: Commander 560 for sale > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > by mail.sproutsoftware.com (Sprout Mailserver v2.8) with ASMTP id HRA74611 > From: "Daniel Stewart" > To: > Subject: Commander 560 for sale > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:13:59 -0800 > > Hello, > > I have a 54' Commander 560 (sn 186) I would like to sell. Can you > recommend a good place to list it? > > Thanks, > > Daniel Stewart > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:22 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Commander 500 From: Curtis Perry --> Commander-List message posted by: Curtis Perry We are a school located in the Philippines and looking for an aircraft for use by the school administration to travel between the several campus locations on different islands. We are considering a Commander 500. It is our understanding this is the only Commander model that can accept a MoGas STC which is a requirement as AvGas is not available at all but one of our locations. Are we correct the 500 is the only model that can use the MoGas STC? Curt Perry ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:22 PM PST US From: W J R HAMILTON Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 500 --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON Curt, Can't speak for the 500, but the 500A ( IO-470M) has engines certified on 90 octane, making them a good prospect for mogas STCs with super unleaded, or in some parts of the world, just unleaded at 91 octane. Cheers, Bill Hamilton. At 10:32 14/12/2004, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: Curtis Perry > >We are a school located in the Philippines and looking for an aircraft >for use by the school administration to travel between the several >campus locations on different islands. We are considering a Commander >500. It is our understanding this is the only Commander model that can >accept a MoGas STC which is a requirement as AvGas is not available at >all but one of our locations. Are we correct the 500 is the only model >that can use the MoGas STC? > >Curt Perry > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet Services and Warbirds.Net. & . This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you are not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal privilege attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 Dolores capitis non fero. Eos do. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:55 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 500 --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann Curtis Perry wrote: > It is our understanding this is the only Commander model that can > accept a MoGas STC Curtis, You can find a list of all Commander STC's at: http://www.aerocommander.com/Documents/stcs.html I don't see any auto-fuel approvals for any of the Commander line although that list may not have some of the latest additions. Chris ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:24 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 500 - Automotive Fuel? --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 12/13/04 4:33:49 PM Mountain Standard Time, cperry@subictel.com writes: << Are we correct the 500 is the only model that can use the MoGas STC? >>\ This subject was reasearched by the Twin Commander Flight Group in 1997. My information dates back to that time. Lycoming will not allow any of their engines (or at least engine series that are powering Twin Commanders) to run on MoGas. A surprising fact was not one I expected: Lycoming does not like the chlorine content of MoGas and this is one of the main reasons they disallow their engines to operate on it. As Bill and Chris indicated, if Teledyne Continental will allow MoGas in the IO-470, the Commander 500A could be a candidate, but I doubt that an engine ot that power output is going to be found running on MoGas. Wing Commander Gordon