---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/15/04: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:26 AM - (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 2. 05:52 AM - Re: (Barry Collman) 3. 09:12 AM - Re: AVGAS and Twin Commanders (Moe) 4. 09:52 AM - (Jim Addington) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:51 AM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Commander-List: Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:22:23 -0600 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" a twin commander crashed in mexico north of monterey, plane was total loss and five died. anyone here why? mason ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:51 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" I saw a report on this, from The Associated Press. It was en route to Texas "when it went down for reasons that were not immediately clear". Later on, I'll see whether a web-search on newspapers in the Monterrey area carry any further reports. Barry C (UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Commander-List: | --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" | | a twin commander crashed in mexico north of monterey, plane was total loss and five died. anyone here why? mason | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:38 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: AVGAS and Twin Commanders --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Fellow Commander Drivers, Anyone who is considering the use of automobile gas should keep in mind that car gas now gets stale pretty quick, and av gas does not. Many of us who ride our motorcycles seldom (like my wife) or have power generators which operate infrequently have found that we must drain the old gas and put in new gas just to get the engine started. This problem has become so great for my business partners old car collection, that I recently picked up a drum of 100LL at the airport for him. Regards, Moe Mills N680RR ----- Original Message ----- From: "tylor.hall" Subject: Commander-List: AVGAS and Twin Commanders > --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" > > I was looking at the www.eaa.org and their list of > STC for AVGAS. They stated that all of their STC are for only for engines > that run on 80/87 AVGAS. > > On www.gami.com (the injector people) you will find > that they are working on an ignition system that reads the pressure inside > of the cylinders and adjusts the timing to eliminate detonation. This would > allow the engine to run on lower octane fuel. I have seen it work in a > prototype stage. Someone may want to call them and see how the STC process > is gong. > > TEL or lead does two things in aviation engines. The first is to stop > detonation. The second is it lubricated the valves and seats. Lubrication > can be solved with additives in the gas. The first is part of the fuel or > the ignition system. > > I recently got a report of the committee that is working on the unleaded > AVGAS problem. They are trying all kinds of different formulas to come up > with a fuel that will work in aviation engines without modification of the > engine. There is no solution in site yet. > > Tylor Hall > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:25 AM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: Commander-List: 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" Some brands of auto gas may contain alcohol that can cause a lot of damage to hoses and seals. Jim A N444BD