---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/17/04: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:42 AM - Engine Oil Heaters (KenWHyde@aol.com) 2. 10:36 AM - Re: Engine Oil Heaters (TILLMAN333@aol.com) 3. 04:17 PM - (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 4. 04:35 PM - Re: Engine Oil Heaters () 5. 04:37 PM - Re: (Chris Schuermann) 6. 04:41 PM - Re: (Jerry Sprayberry) 7. 05:01 PM - (John McNulty) 8. 05:15 PM - Santa Maria (CA) Fly-in Weekend (April 22-24 2005) - SMXgig (Cory Emberson) 9. 05:23 PM - Re: (Moe) 10. 06:53 PM - Re: (CloudCraft@aol.com) 11. 07:30 PM - Re: (William Boelte) 12. 07:45 PM - Re: Mogas in the 500 (W J R HAMILTON) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:58 AM PST US From: KenWHyde@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Engine Oil Heaters --> Commander-List message posted by: KenWHyde@aol.com Anyone got the best suggestion for engine/oil heaters for use on the 500S/IO-540? Is there a dip-stick type rather than glue-on-pad that is approved? Ken Hyde ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:18 AM PST US From: TILLMAN333@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Engine Oil Heaters --> Commander-List message posted by: TILLMAN333@aol.com Ken, Hair dryers always work. No joke. Gary Tillman, Pres. Av. Ins. Brokers of NA http://www.flysafeinsurance.com/ 800-228-4283 706-291-4077 office 706-238-1143 cell 706-232-3081 fax ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:22 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" "john MCNULTY" , "MOE MILLS" Subject: Commander-List: Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:17:01 -0600 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header 0.87 UPPERCASE_50_75 message body is 50-75% uppercase --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" ALL, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT AS OF TODAY 12-17-2004 THE CENTURY 2000 AUTO PILOT SYSTEM IS STC FOR SHORT BODY FLAT NACELLED COMMANDERS! NOW ALL I HAVE TO DO IS LEARN HOW TO USE IT. MASON N2001M AC68 FP ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:53 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Commander-List: Engine Oil Heaters --> Commander-List message posted by: I (my mechanic) is in the process of putting engine heaters on my newly (6 mo.ago) 500S. we are going with a Tanis heater but not the one with the probes (~1000.00/eng.) since we didn't want to do anything to interfere with the multiprobe eng. Analyzer. The one that we are using utilizes a heater element in the oil drain plug and pads that fit under the valve covers. This is only ~500.00 per eng. But Tanis strongly suggests engine blankets at 500.00/eng. That we are going to use. I fly up to an Island north of Charlevoix Mi. in the winter and need some sort of oil heater. Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KenWHyde@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Engine Oil Heaters --> Commander-List message posted by: KenWHyde@aol.com Anyone got the best suggestion for engine/oil heaters for use on the 500S/IO-540? Is there a dip-stick type rather than glue-on-pad that is approved? Ken Hyde ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:30 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann MASON CHEVAILLIER wrote: > ALL, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT AS OF TODAY 12-17-2004 THE CENTURY 2000 > AUTO PILOT SYSTEM IS STC FOR SHORT BODY FLAT NACELLED COMMANDERS! Congrats Mason! I know this has been a huge effort and imagine you must be very pleased to have it completed. Can't wait to see 2001M in person! How are the rest of your issues progressing? chris ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:09 PM PST US From: "Jerry Sprayberry" "MOE MILLS" Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry Sprayberry" Thank You Mason: You have done a great service to all Aero Commander Owners. Regards: Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" ; "MOE MILLS" Subject: Commander-List: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" > > ALL, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT AS OF TODAY 12-17-2004 THE CENTURY 2000 AUTO > PILOT SYSTEM IS STC FOR SHORT BODY FLAT NACELLED COMMANDERS! NOW ALL I > HAVE TO DO IS LEARN HOW TO USE IT. MASON N2001M AC68 FP > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:01:49 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: From: "John McNulty" 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject": commander-list@matronics.com --> Commander-List message posted by: "John McNulty" I think I was a little more direct in responding to Mason's announcement. I said something like "I love you!!!" We should all be very grateful to Mason - he's given us all a great Christmas present all wrapped up in a shiny bow..... ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:01 PM PST US From: "Cory Emberson" Subject: Commander-List: Santa Maria (CA) Fly-in Weekend (April 22-24 2005) - SMXgig --> Commander-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" Hello everyone! With Matt Dralle's blessing (thank you, Matt!), I'm pleased to post this announcement for a terrific aviation fly-in weekend. SMXgig (in Santa Maria, CA) has become the year's largest face-to-face get-together of electronically networked aviators. We hope you'll plan to attend because we expect this year's gig to be the best ever. People come from all over the country (and sometimes overseas) to attend, and most of the sessions qualify for FAA Wings cards. The dates are April 22-24, 2005 (Friday-Sunday). It's a lot of fun, and a great chance for pilots from all over to mingle and share aviation stories, ideas, etc. I have had quite a few inquiries about SMXgig, especially from several groups, so I anticipate that it's going to fill up this year. The sessions are still being developed, but I will post an update when we have the roster of speakers and their sessions. The announcement below contains most of the crucial information, and you can get the rest from the website (www.smxgig.org). If you have any questions at all, just let me know, and thanks! ~Cory Emberson KHWD cory@smxgig.org >>>NOTICE TO AIRMEN<<< The Seventeenth Annual SMXgig April 22-24, 2005 PRE-REGISTRATION SMXgig 2005 will be held from April 22-24, 2005, at the Santa Maria, CA, Radisson, right on the airport ramp. Because of the anticipated demand, we'll start registration soon, and are now taking pre-registration reservations with a small ($50 per person) deposit. The deposit may be paid by check, PayPal, and all major credit cards. Of course, if the unexpected occurs and you're not able to make SMXgig after all (sniff!), your deposit will be fully refundable within the refund window (usually about two weeks before the gig). Your pre-registration and deposit will guarantee your SMXgig reservation. As soon as I have the rest of the program finalized, we'll start the regular registration process. If you believe you can make it, please reserve your spot with this pre-registration form. First come, first served! The hotel is otherwise sold out during that weekend, so it will be nice to know you've got a place in line. You do *not* need to register with the hotel - just give me your preferences, and I will take care of the reservations. SUPERSONIC SURVIVOR Hanging in the straps of his parachute and feeling the cold night air on his face, Brian Udell felt as if a freight train had collided with his body. As he struggled to inflate his life preserver before plunging into the icy waters of the Atlantic Ocean, he realized it had shredded with the force of the supersonic windblast. With his teeth and one functioning arm, Brian feverishly retrieved a one-man life raft that hung from a fifteen-foot lanyard off his right hip only seconds before entering the water. After popping back to the surface like a bobber on a fishing line, the salt water made him painfully aware of the open wounds, cuts, and scrapes that were strewn over his broken body. The thought of blood pouring into the water inviting sharks for a late night meal motivated him to attempt to get into the partially inflated raft. As he kicked his legs, Brian's lower limbs felt as though only a thread attached them. Exhausted and unable to enter the raft, thoughts of death quickly consumed his mind. Knowing he would be unable to survive the night under the extreme conditions, Brian began to pray. The next several hours of survival and the many months of excruciating rehabilitation deliver an almost unbelievable story. Brian holds the record for surviving the highest speed ejection from a U.S. Fighter Aircraft at nearly 800 MPH. He survived four grueling hours 65 miles off the Atlantic Coast in 60-degree water, 5-foot seas, and 15 MPH winds at night. Brian's determination, perseverance, faith, and sheer will to survive is unparalleled. His story of survival, recovery, and return to the Strike Eagle is an inspiration to everyone. Brian is a very accomplished aviator. He began flying at age nine and took his first cross-country flight at age ten. Since that time he has accumulated over 4000 hours in a variety of both civil and military aircraft. He was one of only sixty candidates across the United States selected to attend the Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training program. Brian graduated number one in his class and was awarded the Air Training Command - Commanders Cup Trophy. Brian was one of the first Lieutenants selected to fly the F-15E Strike Eagle. He graduated from Strike Eagle training and received the top academic award. Brian went on to his operational unit where he became an Instructor, Mission Commander, and Air to Ground Top Gun winner. He has flown over 100 combat missions in Southwest Asia and logged nearly 2000 hours in the Strike Eagle. Brian received four Air Medals and three Aerial Achievement Medal for combat missions over the skies of Iraq. Brian's military career spanned ten years. He left the Air Force in 1999 and he is currently a pilot with Southwest Airlines. "Brian Udell kept us spellbound for 45 minutes. You could hear a pin drop, except when he made everyone laugh. The story of his four-hour ordeal was gripping and moving. He certainly won the audience." T. Karr, President Carolina Aero Club Just as in previous years, there will be one flat all-encompassing "gig" fee that covers all events that involve significant out-of-pocket costs for the organizers. The fee will be determined with the events is finalized (it should be about $170), and will cover: - Friday afternoon welcome party - Friday evening dinner banquet, featuring Capt. Brian Udell, Supersonic Survivor - Saturday and Sunday tech sessions - Saturday SMX-style BBQ lunch - Saturday evening events (to be announced) - Saturday evening movie extravaganza - Meeting rooms and coffee service at the Santa Maria Radisson - BFUB transportation to (and from) the Saturday evening event Lodging at the SMX Radisson will cost $89.00/night for either a single or double room, which is far below the regular hotel room rate. Be sure you check in as a SMXgig attendee and get the special rate. We have our definitive preference listed with the hotel for rampside rooms - early registration can only help, but of course, the rampside rooms are subject to availability depending on how many existing guests are in those rooms. >>>SMXgig 2005<<< April 22-24, 2005 ELECTRONIC PRE-REGISTRATION FORM When you send your pre-registration, receipt of your deposit will be noted, and your registration updated when the full registration process begins. The credit card information for your hotel reservation will be requested at that time. Please fill in as completely as possible and send to Cory Emberson via: 1. Email at registration@smxgig.org . 2. Fax at: 510.782.0415 3. Regular mail to: Cory Emberson - SMXgig 20511 Skywest Drive Hayward, CA 94541 If youre making your deposit by credit card, and dont feel comfortable emailing that information, please feel free to call me at 510.783.4410. If you get my voicemail, I will return your call. Otherwise, both regular mail or fax are safe. GENERAL INFORMATION Your name: _____________________________ Your email address: ____________________ Your daytime phone: (___) ___-____ Your evening phone: (___) ___-____ This form is: _ an original pre-registration _ an amended pre-registration _ a cancellation How confident are you of attending?: __ almost certain __ probably __ maybe Anticipated arrival date and time: ________ at about ____ Departure date and time: ________ at about ____ How are you getting to SMX?: __ Own plane, type __ N#_____ __ Hitching with_____________ __ Airline flight into_____ Number of attendees in your group: __ Names of others in your group:______________________________ HOTEL RESERVATION INFO Number of rooms: __ Number of persons: __ Special requests: __ King bed __ Queen/Queen bed __ Double/Double bed __ Smoking __ Non-smoking __ Other:____________________ Sharing room with:_____________________________ CREDIT CARD INFO: Card #__________________________ exp.______ PayPal address: bootless@earthlink.net ANTICIPATED EVENT ATTENDANCE Number of people in my party who I expect to attend the following events: Friday afternoon welcome party ___ Friday evening dinner banquet: __ Saturday morning technical sessions: __ Saturday lunch barbecue: __ Saturday evening event (TBD): __ Sunday morning technical sessions: __ We look forward to seeing you there! ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:44 PM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Yes Mason thank you very much. I already have an appointment with Commander Aero in Dayton to have one installed next month. This is so exciting, that I was going to take off this weekend, however, Gary and Tim advised that Century is back ordered about a month. Moe Mills N680RR ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McNulty" commander-list@matronics.com> Subject: Commander-List: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John McNulty" > > I think I was a little more direct in responding to Mason's > announcement. > > I said something like "I love you!!!" We should all be very grateful > to > > Mason - he's given us all a great Christmas present all wrapped up in a > > shiny bow..... > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:48 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com Congratulations Mason (and your 680FP)! Thanks for blazing that trail. Wing Commander Gordon ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:33 PM PST US From: "William Boelte" Subject: RE: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "William Boelte" Jerry, How is your airplane. I was at the Auxiliary training weekend when your nacelle was damaged. Kindest regards, Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Sprayberry Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry Sprayberry" Thank You Mason: You have done a great service to all Aero Commander Owners. Regards: Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" ; "MOE MILLS" Subject: Commander-List: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" > > ALL, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT AS OF TODAY 12-17-2004 THE CENTURY 2000 AUTO > PILOT SYSTEM IS STC FOR SHORT BODY FLAT NACELLED COMMANDERS! NOW ALL I > HAVE TO DO IS LEARN HOW TO USE IT. MASON N2001M AC68 FP > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:46 PM PST US From: W J R HAMILTON Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mogas in the 500 --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON Kevin, Certainly the 500A onwards TCDS calls up 100/130 ( no mention of 100LL, hadn't been thought of then, but in many places, IF Avgas is available, 100LL is all there is) but the fact remains that the IO-470M was certified on 90/96. Re. 100LL v. 100/130, combustion wise they are the same, at the "auto rich" fuel/air ratio, it is 130 octane, overkill for an engine certified for "auto-rich" of 96. If my memory serves me correctly, 90/96 disappeared off the scene in the '50's, so it would not have made much sense to certify an aircraft to a fuel that had been discontinued, leaving 80/86 ,100/130 and 115/145. The latter rapidly became extinct with the disappearance of large number of of the big pistons, certainly around the western Pacific, as I recall 115/145 was rare outside military bases by the late '60's. By the time the DC-6Bs of Ansett and Trans Australian Airlines were withdrawn from service, 155/145 had long since been of historical interest only, meaning that the aircraft could only be operated at 100/130 power levels. To this day, with the R1820-86A/B? in T-28, and the R1820-86 in the Tracker, we no longer have the original T.O power of 1475 or 1625 HP available, effectively we operate at METO power. I face the possibility of winding up in places where I can't get drum stocks delivered, and for the occasional load to get me somewhere where proper Avgas is available, all I will have available will be MoGas, unleaded, suitable dosed up with lead replacement lubricant and octane boosters carried with me, the latter just to be on the safe side. Fortunately, I am in a position to cover this "legally", without doing a full STC, probably an avenue not available in US. All the best to everybody for Christmas and the New Year. Cheers, Bill Hamilton ZK-DCF At 15:43 17/12/2004, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Kevin Coons" > > > >Listers, > >Hello this past week there has been great debate regarding the pros and cons >about flying mogas in the straight 500. Kindly, refer to >www.aerocommander.com and review the model specific information which Dan >Dominguez and Chris Wall crafted from Aero Commander aircraft flight manuals >and Pilot Handbooks. The fuel octane states 91/96 while other 500 series >aircraft require 100/130 octane fuel. I hope this helps. > >Kevin Coons > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry >Collman >To: commander-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Three bladed props for 500 > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > >Hi Curtis, > >Any Commander "500" with a three-blade prop is undoubtedly not a straight >Model >500. > >It could be, but as far as I know there are only a few which have had >three-blade props installed, as a modification: > >s/n 618 had Hartzell HC-A3VK-2B/V7636D-4 props and Kensair Corporation, of >Broomfield, Colorado, evidently gained STC number SA1547WE for such a >modification. > >s/n 639 also had Hartzell HC-A3VK-2B/V7636D props and Riley Aeronautics >subsequently gained STC number SA257CE for such a modification. > >s/n 740 also had Hartzell HC-A3VK-2B/V7636D props under STC number >SA1735SO. > >There are also several other Models in the "500" range, namely the 500A, >500B, >500U and 500S. > >The 500A normally has 2-blade props, but with the Colemill "Super 300" >modification, three-blade props are installed on Continental IO-520-E >engines, >which replace the standard Continental IO-470-M engines. > >The other three Models all use Lycoming IO-540 series engines >(-B1A5, -B1C5, -E1A5, or -E1B5) with 3-blade props. > >The straight 500 Model has the deep "Bathtub" nacelles, whereas the others >have >the "Speedline" nacelles, which are a lot slimmer in profile. > >There is not much to choose between the 500B, 500U and 500S >performance-wise, >but the last two were Certificated in both the Standard & Utility categories >CofA. > >Hope this helps! > >Barry Collman >UK "CommanderLand" Rep.) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Curtis Perry" >To: "not processed: message from valid local sender" > >Subject: Commander-List: Three bladed props for 500 > > >| --> Commander-List message posted by: Curtis Perry >| >| I think I see in the photo gallery pictures of Twin Commander 500s with >| three bladed props. 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