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1. 03:31 PM - Save the Aero Commander 520 (Barry Collman)
2. 03:41 PM - Re: Save the Aero Commander 520 (CloudCraft@aol.com)
3. 04:18 PM - Re: Save the Aero Commander 520 (Chris Schuermann)
4. 07:02 PM - Re: Save the Aero Commander 520 (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Save the Aero Commander 520 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Guys,
Well, the only person who responded to my first email was Derek Monk, another
Brit who would like to help save a piece of American heritage. Derek is putting
together the text for our book on the Commander history.
Good news and bad news on Serial Number 1.
The Commander is atop an Okayama kounan Airport building and the props have been
removed. Serial Number 1 will be disposed of at the time of the building's
demolition, which is scheduled for January 30th. It is evidently permanently
fixed by Hi-shear rivets between the wing and fuselage so I understand
separation is hard work, especially given the time-scale.
The good news? Well, the airport is next door to Okayama harbor and the runway
is adjacent to Kojima Lake. There is a long bank between the Lake and the Bay,
including two water gates, although their height & width isn't known.
When the demolition starts, the on-site construction crane could be used to lift
the Commander onto a barge.
The Commander was the first twin-engined aircraft considered safe enough for use
by the President.
One Model was the World's first pressurized light twin.
Numerous World records were set by Commanders.
No doubt there are many other noteworthy items of heritage.
So, do we want to try and save No. 1, or just let her turn into Cola cans?
The choice, of course, is yours but two Brits are willing to contribute if
enough support can be found.
Sincerely,
Barry Collman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Commander-List: Save the Aero Commander 520
| --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
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| Hi guys,
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| For me, it will be a very sad day if we lose the very first production Aero
| Commander.
|
| The prototype (L-3805) has already been saved, being on exhibition in the
| Oklahoma City State Fairgrounds. My understanding is that when funds are
| available, it will be taken down from the pole it is sitting atop, and work
| undertaken to refurbish it for the benefit of future generations.
|
| Model 520, serial number 1, N4100B was rolled out on August 24th 1951 and made
| its first flight on August 27th.
| It was later sold to the giant Asahi-Shimbun Newspaper Company in Tokyo, Japan
| and the registration mark JA5001 was the first one issued in the new
| twin-engined piston aircraft series. They named it 'Hatsukaze', meaning 'First
| Wind'. After passing through two further owners, it was placed on permanent
| display on roof-top museum at Okayama Airport in September 1963.
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| So, the question is, do we allow this aircraft to be scrapped?
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| If not, what can be done to save it?
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| Of course, the cost involved is probably like 'how long is a bit of string' at
| the moment, but if anyone has any ideas from previous experience, let us know.
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| Could the Flight Group participate, along with, say, the City of Oklahoma, the
| Service Centers?
|
| It seems we need to move fairly quickly, so if anybody has a bright idea, let
us
| know!
|
| Very Best Regards,
| Barry
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|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
| To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: FW: save the aero-commander 520
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| Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
| Subject: FW: save the aero-commander 520
| Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:27:24 -0800
| From: "Jeff Cousins" <jcousins@twincommander.com>
| To: yourtcfg@aol.com
|
| Jim:
|
| Sounds like this one has already left the realm of flight.
|
| Jeff Cousins
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|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Geoffrey Pence
| To: Jeff Cousins
| Subject: RE: save the aero-commander 520
|
| The aircraft referenced is S/N 520-1
| Delivered to Asshi Shimbum Press August 21, 1952
| The last I heard it was on static display in Japan.
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Jeff Cousins
| To: Ted Finck; Pierre Debruge; Geoffrey Pence; Jim Metzger (yourtcfg@aol.com)
| Subject: FW: save the aero-commander 520
|
| FYI. If anyone knows of someone interested in a 520??????
|
| Jeff Cousins
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: TASM [mailto:tasm@npotown.net]
| To: Jeff Cousins
| Subject: save the aero-commander 520
|
| From Takamasa koda
| Dear sir,
| We are worried about the most rare airplane that was made after the WW-2 named
| AERO COMMANDER 520.
| I've heard of this airplane is the first product AERO COMMANDER.
| The owner wants to know how to disposal the plane.
| It will be destroyed after shortly this month.
| No one wants to help this airplane in Japan.
| So, Please serarch quickly someone who can preserve this historic airplane.
|
| Owner's URL:http://www.pref.okayama.jp/doboku/kounan/top.html
| Phone: 086-262-0954
| Fax : 086-262-5220
| Address: Kounan airport
| 639-1 Urayasu minami-cho
| Okayama shi 702-8024
| c/o Kounan airport
| Okayama pref.
| JAPAN
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| Subject: | Re: Save the Aero Commander 520 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In the name of the Queen, I'll toss in a few hundred American dollars.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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| Subject: | Re: Save the Aero Commander 520 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
Barry Collman wrote:
> So, do we want to try and save No. 1, or just let her turn into Cola cans?
It will be a sad day if #1 ends up in the trash bin Barry. That said, I
suspect this is simply too large a task to undertake as a "labor of
love" considering the location. What we need is for the TCFG to try to
round up a couple of corporate sponsors or a museum. Jim - have you
talked to TCAC or any of the service centers about supporting a rescue
mission? Maybe one of the presidential museums could fund an effort.
They seem to be well-funded. How about the Evergreen folks? They're up
in your neck of the woods and this would be a trivial task for them.
(would be a good excuse to roll the spruce goose out for some air time
:-) Chris and Dan probably still have a lot of good contacts...
Still pondering...
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Save the Aero Commander 520 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 12/20/2004 4:18:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
cschuerm@cox.net writes:
> How about the Evergreen folks?
I'll give them a try. The factory is not intereste, they sent me the
original email. I am afrad this one may get away, but I'll try!! jb
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