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1. 06:57 AM - 3 bladed conversion (Dan Brady)
2. 05:02 PM - NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. (Moe)
3. 05:33 PM - Where in the World is Ron Smith? (CloudCraft@aol.com)
4. 07:18 PM - 680 FP owner's manual (nico css)
5. 08:45 PM - Re: NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. (Jody Pillatzki)
6. 11:20 PM - Re: 680 FP owner's manual (CloudCraft@aol.com)
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| Subject: | 3 bladed conversion |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Brady" <westwind@hdiss.net>
For what it's worth, many years ago I flew just about every old "bath tub" commander
made(although at the time they weren't very old). 1 comparison I recall
was between 2 520s, 1 with 2 blades & 1 with 3 blades. At the time most of our
flying involved gravel strips & unimproved landing sites so the main benefits
to us were less prop damage due to more ground clearance, less cabin noise,
slightly shorter TO distance & climb performance plus the fact that it was a factory
improvement as opposed to an after-market mod. Since the 3 blade upgrade
also included an increase of 15hp per engine, the increased TO & climb performance
wasn't due just to the 3 blades......plus the 2 bladder even with less
hp got slightly better cruise speeds. Fast forward to 16 years ago when we got
our present "straight" commander with 0540 lycs we looked into upgrading to 3
blade Black-Mac conversions & were assured that we could get approval for this
conversion but after getting the cost estimate we decided not to pursue it further
so I do not know the FAA's position. I did have a customer who had it done
to his 250 Comanche and was pleased as punch with it due mainly to the increased
ground clearance. I hope this is of some help to you.......Dan Brady the
desert duck.
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| Subject: | NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Commander Drivers:
I need one only seat belt for an Aero Commander. The web part can be total junk,
however the buckle and the flat sheet metal piece that inserts into the buckle
must be serviceable. The buckle is stamped "American Safety 5000B3" and the
piece that inserts into the buckle has no markings at all. I do not need the
two pieces that bolt to the seat.
Anyone have an extra that they would be willing to sell?
Moe Mills
N680RR
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| Subject: | Where in the World is Ron Smith? |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
All,
Sir Barry and I need to get hold of Ron Smith (Ted Smit's son) who left 2+
years ago on mission for the Mormon Church to Hawaii, after living in the
Sacramento, California, area.
If anyone knows where Ron is now, please let us know. His email address
bounces.
Thanks,
Wing Commander Gordon & Sir Barry Collman
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| Subject: | 680 FP owner's manual |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
I still have an owner's manual of a 680 FP. If there is enough interest, I
would like to reprint it and make it available to members. Anyone wish to
have a copy?
Let me know.
Thanks
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Subject: Commander-List: NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT.
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
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> Commander Drivers:
>
> I need one only seat belt for an Aero Commander. The web part can be
total junk, however the buckle and the flat sheet metal piece that inserts
into the buckle must be serviceable. The buckle is stamped "American Safety
5000B3" and the piece that inserts into the buckle has no markings at all.
I do not need the two pieces that bolt to the seat.
>
> Anyone have an extra that they would be willing to sell?
>
> Moe Mills
> N680RR
>
>
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| Subject: | NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody Pillatzki" <Jpillatzki@702com.net>
I will take a look in my box of goodies tomorrow.
Jody
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe
Subject: Commander-List: NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT.
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Commander Drivers:
I need one only seat belt for an Aero Commander. The web part can be total
junk, however the buckle and the flat sheet metal piece that inserts into
the buckle must be serviceable. The buckle is stamped "American Safety
5000B3" and the piece that inserts into the buckle has no markings at all.
I do not need the two pieces that bolt to the seat.
Anyone have an extra that they would be willing to sell?
Moe Mills
N680RR
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| Subject: | Re: 680 FP owner's manual |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
Nico,
Yes, I'd like a copy. I probably have one, but I couldn't find it if I had to
... and I feel more than a bit of nostalgia for the old beasts.
Let me know what it will take to get a copy from you.
Wing Commander Gordon
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