---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/03/05: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:57 AM - 3 bladed conversion (Dan Brady) 2. 05:02 PM - NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. (Moe) 3. 05:33 PM - Where in the World is Ron Smith? (CloudCraft@aol.com) 4. 07:18 PM - 680 FP owner's manual (nico css) 5. 08:45 PM - Re: NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. (Jody Pillatzki) 6. 11:20 PM - Re: 680 FP owner's manual (CloudCraft@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:51 AM PST US From: "Dan Brady" Subject: Commander-List: 3 bladed conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Brady" For what it's worth, many years ago I flew just about every old "bath tub" commander made(although at the time they weren't very old). 1 comparison I recall was between 2 520s, 1 with 2 blades & 1 with 3 blades. At the time most of our flying involved gravel strips & unimproved landing sites so the main benefits to us were less prop damage due to more ground clearance, less cabin noise, slightly shorter TO distance & climb performance plus the fact that it was a factory improvement as opposed to an after-market mod. Since the 3 blade upgrade also included an increase of 15hp per engine, the increased TO & climb performance wasn't due just to the 3 blades......plus the 2 bladder even with less hp got slightly better cruise speeds. Fast forward to 16 years ago when we got our present "straight" commander with 0540 lycs we looked into upgrading to 3 blade Black-Mac conversions & were assured that we could get approval for this conversion but after getting the cost estimate we decided not to pursue it further so I do not know the FAA's position. I did have a customer who had it done to his 250 Comanche and was pleased as punch with it due mainly to the increased ground clearance. I hope this is of some help to you.......Dan Brady the desert duck. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:44 PM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Commander Drivers: I need one only seat belt for an Aero Commander. The web part can be total junk, however the buckle and the flat sheet metal piece that inserts into the buckle must be serviceable. The buckle is stamped "American Safety 5000B3" and the piece that inserts into the buckle has no markings at all. I do not need the two pieces that bolt to the seat. Anyone have an extra that they would be willing to sell? Moe Mills N680RR ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:23 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Where in the World is Ron Smith? --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com All, Sir Barry and I need to get hold of Ron Smith (Ted Smit's son) who left 2+ years ago on mission for the Mormon Church to Hawaii, after living in the Sacramento, California, area. If anyone knows where Ron is now, please let us know. His email address bounces. Thanks, Wing Commander Gordon & Sir Barry Collman ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:28 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: 680 FP owner's manual --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" I still have an owner's manual of a 680 FP. If there is enough interest, I would like to reprint it and make it available to members. Anyone wish to have a copy? Let me know. Thanks Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > Commander Drivers: > > I need one only seat belt for an Aero Commander. The web part can be total junk, however the buckle and the flat sheet metal piece that inserts into the buckle must be serviceable. The buckle is stamped "American Safety 5000B3" and the piece that inserts into the buckle has no markings at all. I do not need the two pieces that bolt to the seat. > > Anyone have an extra that they would be willing to sell? > > Moe Mills > N680RR > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:26 PM PST US From: "Jody Pillatzki" Subject: RE: Commander-List: NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody Pillatzki" I will take a look in my box of goodies tomorrow. Jody -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Subject: Commander-List: NEED COMMANDER SEAT BELT. --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Commander Drivers: I need one only seat belt for an Aero Commander. The web part can be total junk, however the buckle and the flat sheet metal piece that inserts into the buckle must be serviceable. The buckle is stamped "American Safety 5000B3" and the piece that inserts into the buckle has no markings at all. I do not need the two pieces that bolt to the seat. Anyone have an extra that they would be willing to sell? Moe Mills N680RR ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:19 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: 680 FP owner's manual --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com Nico, Yes, I'd like a copy. I probably have one, but I couldn't find it if I had to ... and I feel more than a bit of nostalgia for the old beasts. Let me know what it will take to get a copy from you. Wing Commander Gordon