---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/12/05: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:09 AM - Re: Easy Taxi STC (Brock Lorber) 2. 03:58 AM - Re: Easy Taxi STC (nico css) 3. 04:43 AM - Re: Easy Taxi STC (Bill Bow) 4. 05:29 AM - Re: Easy Taxi STC (nico css) 5. 08:48 AM - Re: Easy Taxi STC (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 6. 08:48 AM - Typical, huh? (nico css) 7. 01:26 PM - Re: Easy Taxi STC (John Vormbaum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC From: "Brock Lorber" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber" Yeah, well none of them were at North Las Vegas today with 30 gust 35 directly across (it seemed) every taxiway I was on! Actually it was a blessing to get it off to one side, as my ankles couldn't take any more beating! That was the slowest I've taxied in 10 years, at 1500+ RPM. Brock Lorber 400CH -----Original Message----- From: "John Vormbaum" To: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Just an interesting aside, when I was being trained by John Meredith in ground handling, he showed me that at speeds above about 10 knots you can maintain directional taxi control using the rudder, with no brake or steering input at all. He ended that lesson by saying, "that's why when you go places you see Commander pilots taxiing like their tails are on fire." /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "W J R HAMILTON" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > > John, > I'm inclined to agree, in particular having any control locks in with the > engines running, ---- one day------ Murphies law '---- etc, you know the rest. > For what it is worth, in light/nil wind, I practiced with the rudder hard > over one way, with feet braced against the sidewall/center console, while I > got used to the delicacy needed for just taxying. > Cheers, > Bill Hamilton. > > > At 15:48 10/01/2005, you wrote: > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > > >Personal opinion only, but one of the things that I have noticed sets us > >Commander pilots apart from the rest is the mastery of the steering valve. > >Why not just spend the required 10-12 hours learning to taxi the airplane > >well? It's not difficult, just a short but steep learning curve. > > > >The Easy Taxi STC seems like a good solution for a nonexistent problem. > > > >Again, just my humble opinion. > > > >/J > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "W J R HAMILTON" > >To: > >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > I presume this is to eliminate the "Commander Dance"??. When you don't fly > > > that often, "smooth" taxing is "challenging". If there is one for a piston > > > Commander I would certainly like to know. > > > Years back, here, new pilots got to taxi all around the the field with the > > > rudder locked by the (external) gust lock in place, I never liked the idea > > > much, but it didn't seem to do any obvious harm. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Bill Hamilton. > > > > > > > > > At 10:11 10/01/2005, you wrote: > > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: KenWHyde@aol.com > > > > > > > >Who knows or has the Easy Taxi STC on their Commander? Understand it uses > >a > > > >hydraulic priority value to control fluid to the brakes. STC is for > >Skydrol > > > >system. Anyone know of a 5606 fluid system. > > > >Thanks and a Good 2005 to everyone! > > > >Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > > > W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet > >Services > > > and Warbirds.Net. & . > > > This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. 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It > is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you are > not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying of > this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal privilege > attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the > mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in error, please > notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 > Dolores capitis non fero. Eos do. > > > __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:59 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" I guess the answer lies in the ego. You taxi with rudders straight. PC's don't. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" > > I may be sorry I took this tac, but what's the big deal if a guy moves the > rudders when he taxis. I don't think it hurts a thing. It is wasted effort > but so are some other things we do. > > bilbo > It's been so long I would probably wiggle the rudder a bit if I had the > chance to taxi mine. No big deal in my book. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Vormbaum" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > > > Just an interesting aside, when I was being trained by John Meredith in > > ground handling, he showed me that at speeds above about 10 knots you can > > maintain directional taxi control using the rudder, with no brake or > > steering input at all. > > > > He ended that lesson by saying, "that's why when you go places you see > > Commander pilots taxiing like their tails are on fire." > > > > /J > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "W J R HAMILTON" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > > > >> > >> John, > >> I'm inclined to agree, in particular having any control locks in with the > >> engines running, ---- one day------ Murphies law '---- etc, you know the > > rest. > >> For what it is worth, in light/nil wind, I practiced with the rudder hard > >> over one way, with feet braced against the sidewall/center console, while > > I > >> got used to the delicacy needed for just taxying. > >> Cheers, > >> Bill Hamilton. > >> > >> > >> At 15:48 10/01/2005, you wrote: > >> >--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > >> > > >> > > >> >Personal opinion only, but one of the things that I have noticed sets us > >> >Commander pilots apart from the rest is the mastery of the steering > > valve. > >> >Why not just spend the required 10-12 hours learning to taxi the > >> >airplane > >> >well? It's not difficult, just a short but steep learning curve. > >> > > >> >The Easy Taxi STC seems like a good solution for a nonexistent problem. > >> > > >> >Again, just my humble opinion. > >> > > >> >/J > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "W J R HAMILTON" > >> >To: > >> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > >> > > >> > > >> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Ken, > >> > > I presume this is to eliminate the "Commander Dance"??. When you > >> > > don't > > fly > >> > > that often, "smooth" taxing is "challenging". If there is one for a > > piston > >> > > Commander I would certainly like to know. > >> > > Years back, here, new pilots got to taxi all around the the field > >> > > with > > the > >> > > rudder locked by the (external) gust lock in place, I never liked the > > idea > >> > > much, but it didn't seem to do any obvious harm. > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > Bill Hamilton. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > At 10:11 10/01/2005, you wrote: > >> > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: KenWHyde@aol.com > >> > > > > >> > > >Who knows or has the Easy Taxi STC on their Commander? Understand it > > uses > >> >a > >> > > >hydraulic priority value to control fluid to the brakes. STC is for > >> >Skydrol > >> > > >system. Anyone know of a 5606 fluid system. > >> > > >Thanks and a Good 2005 to everyone! > >> > > >Ken > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > >> > > W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet > >> >Services > >> > > and Warbirds.Net. & . > >> > > This message is intended for and should only be used by the > >> > > addressee. > > It > >> > > is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you > > are > >> > > not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying > > of > >> > > this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal > > privilege > >> > > attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of > >> > > the > >> > > mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in error, > >> >please > >> > > notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 > >> > > Dolores capitis non fero. 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It > >> is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you are > >> not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying of > >> this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal privilege > >> attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the > >> mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in error, > > please > >> notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 > >> Dolores capitis non fero. Eos do. > >> > >> > >> __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ > >> > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> http://www.nod32.com > >> > >> > >> __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ > >> > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> http://www.nod32.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:12 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" PC's? ----- Original Message ----- From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > > I guess the answer lies in the ego. You taxi with rudders straight. PC's > don't. > Nico > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Bow" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" >> >> I may be sorry I took this tac, but what's the big deal if a guy moves >> the >> rudders when he taxis. I don't think it hurts a thing. It is wasted > effort >> but so are some other things we do. >> >> bilbo >> It's been so long I would probably wiggle the rudder a bit if I had the >> chance to taxi mine. No big deal in my book. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Vormbaum" >> To: >> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC >> >> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > >> > >> > Just an interesting aside, when I was being trained by John Meredith in >> > ground handling, he showed me that at speeds above about 10 knots you > can >> > maintain directional taxi control using the rudder, with no brake or >> > steering input at all. >> > >> > He ended that lesson by saying, "that's why when you go places you see >> > Commander pilots taxiing like their tails are on fire." >> > >> > /J >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "W J R HAMILTON" >> > To: >> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC >> > >> > >> >> --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON >> > >> >> >> >> John, >> >> I'm inclined to agree, in particular having any control locks in with > the >> >> engines running, ---- one day------ Murphies law '---- etc, you know > the >> > rest. >> >> For what it is worth, in light/nil wind, I practiced with the rudder > hard >> >> over one way, with feet braced against the sidewall/center console, > while >> > I >> >> got used to the delicacy needed for just taxying. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bill Hamilton. >> >> >> >> >> >> At 15:48 10/01/2005, you wrote: >> >> >--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Personal opinion only, but one of the things that I have noticed sets > us >> >> >Commander pilots apart from the rest is the mastery of the steering >> > valve. >> >> >Why not just spend the required 10-12 hours learning to taxi the >> >> >airplane >> >> >well? It's not difficult, just a short but steep learning curve. >> >> > >> >> >The Easy Taxi STC seems like a good solution for a nonexistent > problem. >> >> > >> >> >Again, just my humble opinion. >> >> > >> >> >/J >> >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >> >From: "W J R HAMILTON" >> >> >To: >> >> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > Ken, >> >> > > I presume this is to eliminate the "Commander Dance"??. When you >> >> > > don't >> > fly >> >> > > that often, "smooth" taxing is "challenging". If there is one for >> >> > > a >> > piston >> >> > > Commander I would certainly like to know. >> >> > > Years back, here, new pilots got to taxi all around the the field >> >> > > with >> > the >> >> > > rudder locked by the (external) gust lock in place, I never liked > the >> > idea >> >> > > much, but it didn't seem to do any obvious harm. >> >> > > >> >> > > Cheers, >> >> > > Bill Hamilton. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > At 10:11 10/01/2005, you wrote: >> >> > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: KenWHyde@aol.com >> >> > > > >> >> > > >Who knows or has the Easy Taxi STC on their Commander? Understand > it >> > uses >> >> >a >> >> > > >hydraulic priority value to control fluid to the brakes. STC is > for >> >> >Skydrol >> >> > > >system. Anyone know of a 5606 fluid system. >> >> > > >Thanks and a Good 2005 to everyone! >> >> > > >Ken >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE >> >> > > W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet >> >> >Services >> >> > > and Warbirds.Net. & . >> >> > > This message is intended for and should only be used by the >> >> > > addressee. >> > It >> >> > > is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If > you >> > are >> >> > > not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or > copying >> > of >> >> > > this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal >> > privilege >> >> > > attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of >> >> > > the >> >> > > mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in > error, >> >> >please >> >> > > notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 >> >> > > Dolores capitis non fero. 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Eos do. >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ >> >> >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> >> http://www.nod32.com >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ >> >> >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> >> http://www.nod32.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:29 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" Small planes were called piss-cats or papa charlies for short. Sorry, I didn't know it wasn't known out here. Perhaps it was a local thing. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" > > PC's? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nico css" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > > > > > I guess the answer lies in the ego. You taxi with rudders straight. PC's > > don't. > > Nico > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Bow" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" > >> > >> I may be sorry I took this tac, but what's the big deal if a guy moves > >> the > >> rudders when he taxis. I don't think it hurts a thing. It is wasted > > effort > >> but so are some other things we do. > >> > >> bilbo > >> It's been so long I would probably wiggle the rudder a bit if I had the > >> chance to taxi mine. No big deal in my book. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "John Vormbaum" > >> To: > >> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > >> > >> > >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > > >> > > >> > Just an interesting aside, when I was being trained by John Meredith in > >> > ground handling, he showed me that at speeds above about 10 knots you > > can > >> > maintain directional taxi control using the rudder, with no brake or > >> > steering input at all. > >> > > >> > He ended that lesson by saying, "that's why when you go places you see > >> > Commander pilots taxiing like their tails are on fire." > >> > > >> > /J > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "W J R HAMILTON" > >> > To: > >> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > >> > > >> > > >> >> --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > >> > > >> >> > >> >> John, > >> >> I'm inclined to agree, in particular having any control locks in with > > the > >> >> engines running, ---- one day------ Murphies law '---- etc, you know > > the > >> > rest. > >> >> For what it is worth, in light/nil wind, I practiced with the rudder > > hard > >> >> over one way, with feet braced against the sidewall/center console, > > while > >> > I > >> >> got used to the delicacy needed for just taxying. > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> Bill Hamilton. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> At 15:48 10/01/2005, you wrote: > >> >> >--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Personal opinion only, but one of the things that I have noticed sets > > us > >> >> >Commander pilots apart from the rest is the mastery of the steering > >> > valve. > >> >> >Why not just spend the required 10-12 hours learning to taxi the > >> >> >airplane > >> >> >well? It's not difficult, just a short but steep learning curve. > >> >> > > >> >> >The Easy Taxi STC seems like a good solution for a nonexistent > > problem. > >> >> > > >> >> >Again, just my humble opinion. > >> >> > > >> >> >/J > >> >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >From: "W J R HAMILTON" > >> >> >To: > >> >> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Ken, > >> >> > > I presume this is to eliminate the "Commander Dance"??. When you > >> >> > > don't > >> > fly > >> >> > > that often, "smooth" taxing is "challenging". If there is one for > >> >> > > a > >> > piston > >> >> > > Commander I would certainly like to know. > >> >> > > Years back, here, new pilots got to taxi all around the the field > >> >> > > with > >> > the > >> >> > > rudder locked by the (external) gust lock in place, I never liked > > the > >> > idea > >> >> > > much, but it didn't seem to do any obvious harm. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Cheers, > >> >> > > Bill Hamilton. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > At 10:11 10/01/2005, you wrote: > >> >> > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: KenWHyde@aol.com > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >Who knows or has the Easy Taxi STC on their Commander? Understand > > it > >> > uses > >> >> >a > >> >> > > >hydraulic priority value to control fluid to the brakes. STC is > > for > >> >> >Skydrol > >> >> > > >system. Anyone know of a 5606 fluid system. > >> >> > > >Thanks and a Good 2005 to everyone! > >> >> > > >Ken > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > >> >> > > W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet > >> >> >Services > >> >> > > and Warbirds.Net. & . > >> >> > > This message is intended for and should only be used by the > >> >> > > addressee. > >> > It > >> >> > > is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If > > you > >> > are > >> >> > > not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or > > copying > >> > of > >> >> > > this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal > >> > privilege > >> >> > > attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of > >> >> > > the > >> >> > > mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in > > error, > >> >> >please > >> >> > > notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 > >> >> > > Dolores capitis non fero. Eos do. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ > >> >> > > > >> >> > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> >> > > http://www.nod32.com > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ > >> >> > > > >> >> > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> >> > > http://www.nod32.com > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > >> >> W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet > >> > Services > >> >> and Warbirds.Net. & . > >> >> This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. > > It > >> >> is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you > > are > >> >> not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying > > of > >> >> this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal > >> >> privilege > >> >> attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the > >> >> mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in error, > >> > please > >> >> notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 > >> >> Dolores capitis non fero. Eos do. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ > >> >> > >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> >> http://www.nod32.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> __________ NOD32 1.852 (20040828) Information __________ > >> >> > >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> >> http://www.nod32.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:02 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/11/2005 11:19:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au writes: Clevelands do make them a trifle more touchy, than the original,don't they. Even ( especially) on the T-28 I have to be real careful, it is very easy to flatspot a tyre. Yes, they do!! In fact, the big Cleveland's, on a hi HP Commanders (560F, 680) will flat spot the tires even on take off. If the pilot allows his feet to drift up to the brakes late in the take off roll, they will lock the wheels. The airplane looks like a dragster on take off leaving two smoking tracks!! Still, they are the most important addition you can make to your Commander. I truly believe the Cleveland upgrade should be a mandatory AD. jab ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:02 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: Typical, huh? --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:23 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Yeah I could see how that would wear you out, Brock! There are occasions where that tall tail isn't a blessing... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brock Lorber" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber" > > Yeah, well none of them were at North Las Vegas today with 30 gust 35 directly across (it seemed) every taxiway I was on! Actually it was a blessing to get it off to one side, as my ankles couldn't take any more beating! That was the slowest I've taxied in 10 years, at 1500+ RPM. > > Brock Lorber 400CH > -----Original Message----- > From: "John Vormbaum" > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:42:46 > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > Just an interesting aside, when I was being trained by John Meredith in > ground handling, he showed me that at speeds above about 10 knots you can > maintain directional taxi control using the rudder, with no brake or > steering input at all. > > He ended that lesson by saying, "that's why when you go places you see > Commander pilots taxiing like their tails are on fire." > > /J > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W J R HAMILTON" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > > > > > John, > > I'm inclined to agree, in particular having any control locks in with the > > engines running, ---- one day------ Murphies law '---- etc, you know the > rest. > > For what it is worth, in light/nil wind, I practiced with the rudder hard > > over one way, with feet braced against the sidewall/center console, while > I > > got used to the delicacy needed for just taxying. > > Cheers, > > Bill Hamilton. > > > > > > At 15:48 10/01/2005, you wrote: > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > > > > >Personal opinion only, but one of the things that I have noticed sets us > > >Commander pilots apart from the rest is the mastery of the steering > valve. > > >Why not just spend the required 10-12 hours learning to taxi the airplane > > >well? It's not difficult, just a short but steep learning curve. > > > > > >The Easy Taxi STC seems like a good solution for a nonexistent problem. > > > > > >Again, just my humble opinion. > > > > > >/J > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "W J R HAMILTON" > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Easy Taxi STC > > > > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > > > > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > > I presume this is to eliminate the "Commander Dance"??. When you don't > fly > > > > that often, "smooth" taxing is "challenging". If there is one for a > piston > > > > Commander I would certainly like to know. > > > > Years back, here, new pilots got to taxi all around the the field with > the > > > > rudder locked by the (external) gust lock in place, I never liked the > idea > > > > much, but it didn't seem to do any obvious harm. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bill Hamilton. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 10:11 10/01/2005, you wrote: > > > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: KenWHyde@aol.com > > > > > > > > > >Who knows or has the Easy Taxi STC on their Commander? Understand it > uses > > >a > > > > >hydraulic priority value to control fluid to the brakes. STC is for > > >Skydrol > > > > >system. Anyone know of a 5606 fluid system. > > > > >Thanks and a Good 2005 to everyone! > > > > >Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > > > > W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet > > >Services > > > > and Warbirds.Net. & . > > > > This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. > It > > > > is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you > are > > > > not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying > of > > > > this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal > privilege > > > > attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the > > > > mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in error, > > >please > > > > notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 > > > > Dolores capitis non fero. 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