---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/31/05: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:15 AM - Re: Commander- 6291B (alh1@juno.com) 2. 02:19 AM - Re: Re: Commander- 6291B 0.60 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase (steve) 3. 08:30 AM - Seat Belts (Larry Wokral) 4. 10:24 AM - Re: Seat Belts (James Rodriguez Colom) 5. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: Aviator (Bill Bow) 6. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: Aviator (Alan Kucheck) 7. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: Aviator (Jim Addington) 8. 06:10 PM - (Jody Pillatzki) 9. 06:32 PM - Commander Covers (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 10. 06:43 PM - Re: Commander Covers (John Vormbaum) 11. 06:43 PM - Re: Commander Covers (Tom Fisher) 12. 06:50 PM - Re: Commander Covers (nico css) 13. 07:43 PM - Re: Commander Covers (John Vormbaum) 14. 08:06 PM - Re: Commander Covers (CloudCraft@aol.com) 15. 08:12 PM - Re: Commander Covers (Lowell Girod) 16. 08:21 PM - Re: Commander Covers (Tom Fisher) 17. 08:50 PM - Re: Commander Covers (John Vormbaum) 18. 08:51 PM - Re: Commander Covers (John Vormbaum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:54 AM PST US From: "alh1@juno.com" Subject: Commander-List: RE: Commander- 6291B 0.60 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase --> Commander-List message posted by: "alh1@juno.com" STEVE, I HAVE 628AH, FORMERLY 6287B. IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH THE 500 CALL JIM SCHILLER AT 561-262-8155. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST AS HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON 500'S FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS. FOR INFORMATION ON THE COMMANDER, THIS LIST IS THE BEST. IF THEY DO NOT KNOW IT, YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENCES ON THE 500 THAT ARE NOT THE SAME AS THE OTHERS SUCH AS THE CARB HEAT BOX. IF THAT IS NOT ADJUSTED RIGHT YOU WILL HAVE A SIMULATED ENGINE FAILURE. (PULL THE CARB HEAT LEVER). ON ALL OLD COMMANDERS, INSPECT THE RUDDER PEDAL TO CABLE CONNECTION AS IT IS ALMOST WORN OUT. WE HAD TWO INFLIGHT FAILURES BEFOREE WE FIXED THEM ALL. JIM CAN GIVE YOU SOME OTHERS. WE ARE AT LANTANA FLORIIDA (LNA) NEAR PALM BEACH. COME BY ANYTIME AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 500. ALLAN HOFFMAN Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:21 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: RE: Commander-List: RE: Commander- 6291B 0.60 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase --> Commander-List message posted by: "steve" Allan, Wow! Thanks a lot for the heads up. Rob and I plan on as many trips as possible starting next week and will call if we get your way. Steve G -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of alh1@juno.com Subject: Commander-List: RE: Commander- 6291B 0.60 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase --> Commander-List message posted by: "alh1@juno.com" STEVE, I HAVE 628AH, FORMERLY 6287B. IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH THE 500 CALL JIM SCHILLER AT 561-262-8155. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST AS HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON 500'S FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS. FOR INFORMATION ON THE COMMANDER, THIS LIST IS THE BEST. IF THEY DO NOT KNOW IT, YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENCES ON THE 500 THAT ARE NOT THE SAME AS THE OTHERS SUCH AS THE CARB HEAT BOX. IF THAT IS NOT ADJUSTED RIGHT YOU WILL HAVE A SIMULATED ENGINE FAILURE. (PULL THE CARB HEAT LEVER). ON ALL OLD COMMANDERS, INSPECT THE RUDDER PEDAL TO CABLE CONNECTION AS IT IS ALMOST WORN OUT. WE HAD TWO INFLIGHT FAILURES BEFOREE WE FIXED THEM ALL. JIM CAN GIVE YOU SOME OTHERS. WE ARE AT LANTANA FLORIIDA (LNA) NEAR PALM BEACH. COME BY ANYTIME AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 500. ALLAN HOFFMAN Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:36 AM PST US From: "Larry Wokral" Subject: Commander-List: Seat Belts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral" My 500B presently only has lap belts all around. I would like to install shoulder harnesses for the pilot and copilot seats. Is there an approved modification for this, and where would I find a vendor? Has anyone installed inertial reel split shoulder harnesses? If so, same question. Thanks, Larry Wokral ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:41 AM PST US From: "James Rodriguez Colom" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Seat Belts --> Commander-List message posted by: "James Rodriguez Colom" Larry, BAS has what you need. Their belts can be installed on a field-approval basis. Look for their ad in Trade-a-Plane. Let us know if you do it. Jimmy N107VC -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wokral Subject: Commander-List: Seat Belts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral" My 500B presently only has lap belts all around. I would like to install shoulder harnesses for the pilot and copilot seats. Is there an approved modification for this, and where would I find a vendor? Has anyone installed inertial reel split shoulder harnesses? If so, same question. Thanks, Larry Wokral CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This communication and any attachments hereto contain information that may be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. The information is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agent entrusted with the responsibility of delivering the message to the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying or distribution of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please delete or destroy all copies and notify the sender immediately. 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Adems, aunque se hayan tomado precauciones para asegurar que los datos que aqu se incluyen estn libre de virus u otro contenido malintencionado, no podemos asegurar que as sea y, por lo tanto, no nos hacemos responsables de cualquier dao atribuible al caso. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:59 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Aviator --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Where is L31 St. Tammany? bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Aviator > --> Commander-List message posted by: "steve" > > I hope I am addressing the list properly via this reply. Please advise of > other methods if I am wrong here. > > Just wanted to introduce myself Steve Gilson and partner Rob Munro. We > just > purchased and flew home from St. Louis to L31 St. Tammany Aero Commander > 500 > N6291B. Our first. I also own an A35 Bonanza while Rob has a 1964 MC > Mooney. We will greatly appreciate everyones knowledge as we continue to > fall in love with the new lady. > > On a different matter, I am looking for a 720 Commander, N401E, serial > #720-650-6 which disappeared off my radar screen a few years back. My > father has some history with her and I was hoping to get some current > information for him. He is getting up there and would appreciate any > stories and whereabouts. If still within our radius and time I would love > to fly him out to see his old friend. > > Steve G and Rob M > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell > Girod > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Aviator > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > > Take heart Barry, nobody sticks around and reads the credits! > > Don > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:45 PM PST US Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Aviator From: "Alan Kucheck" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck" Covington, LA http://www.airnav.com/airport/L31 ak -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bow [mailto:bowing74@earthlink.net] Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Aviator --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Where is L31 St. Tammany? bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Aviator > --> Commander-List message posted by: "steve" > > I hope I am addressing the list properly via this reply. Please advise of > other methods if I am wrong here. > > Just wanted to introduce myself Steve Gilson and partner Rob Munro. We > just > purchased and flew home from St. Louis to L31 St. Tammany Aero Commander > 500 > N6291B. Our first. I also own an A35 Bonanza while Rob has a 1964 MC > Mooney. We will greatly appreciate everyones knowledge as we continue to > fall in love with the new lady. > > On a different matter, I am looking for a 720 Commander, N401E, serial > #720-650-6 which disappeared off my radar screen a few years back. My > father has some history with her and I was hoping to get some current > information for him. He is getting up there and would appreciate any > stories and whereabouts. If still within our radius and time I would love > to fly him out to see his old friend. > > Steve G and Rob M > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell > Girod > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Aviator > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > > Take heart Barry, nobody sticks around and reads the credits! > > Don > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:43 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Aviator --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" Bilbo, Go to airnav.com. It will give all information on the airport including fuel prices for a 50 mile radius. Jim A -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Bow Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Aviator --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Where is L31 St. Tammany? bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Aviator > --> Commander-List message posted by: "steve" > > I hope I am addressing the list properly via this reply. Please advise of > other methods if I am wrong here. > > Just wanted to introduce myself Steve Gilson and partner Rob Munro. We > just > purchased and flew home from St. Louis to L31 St. Tammany Aero Commander > 500 > N6291B. Our first. I also own an A35 Bonanza while Rob has a 1964 MC > Mooney. We will greatly appreciate everyones knowledge as we continue to > fall in love with the new lady. > > On a different matter, I am looking for a 720 Commander, N401E, serial > #720-650-6 which disappeared off my radar screen a few years back. My > father has some history with her and I was hoping to get some current > information for him. He is getting up there and would appreciate any > stories and whereabouts. If still within our radius and time I would love > to fly him out to see his old friend. > > Steve G and Rob M > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell > Girod > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Aviator > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > > Take heart Barry, nobody sticks around and reads the credits! > > Don > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:05 PM PST US From: "Jody Pillatzki" Subject: Commander-List: 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jody Pillatzki" Guys I need a bracket that goes around the augmenter tube on a 520 commander. Anyone have a good one for sale or know of a source for new ones. Jpillatzki at 702com.net. Jody Pillatzki 411VV ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:27 PM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Hello Commanderland I am looking for a solution to preventing rain water from seeping into my 680F. Since I do not have the luxury of a hangar to protect my cherished Commander, I am wondering if anyone has had any sucess with covers. I remember that Dennis Poletti (hope I spelled that right...) had a cover for his Commander that covered the fuselage. Do they work..?? Morris has worked hard to seal windows during annual inspections, but the rain just keeps coming in and soaking the carpet. If anybody has any insight to this situation, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks for your help. Wet in San Luis Obispo, CA... Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:28 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Randy, I don't know how well Dennis Polito's cover worked. You can reach him at 650-595-3949 if you want to bend his ear. Is it for certain the windows? After years of trying to seal my windows, the culprit turned out to be an antenna; the water would leak in the overhead, then run towards the front and down the pilot door, making it look as if the pilot door seal were no good. We fixed it and hopefully it'll hold up with the new interior. Incidentally, Jimbob is in MO right NOW, picking up the airplane, woohoo! He's leaving from there at oh-dark-hundred tomorrow morning and will hopefully have the airplane back here by tomorrow evening. When it gets back I'll take some pix and post a link. Cheers, /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Commander-List: Commander Covers > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > Hello Commanderland > I am looking for a solution to preventing rain water from seeping into my > 680F. Since I do not have the luxury of a hangar to protect my cherished > Commander, I am wondering if anyone has had any sucess with covers. I > remember that Dennis Poletti (hope I spelled that right...) had a cover for > his Commander that covered the fuselage. Do they work..?? Morris has > worked hard to seal windows during annual inspections, but the rain just > keeps coming in and soaking the carpet. > > If anybody has any insight to this situation, I would appreciate hearing > from you. Thanks for your help. > > Wet in San Luis Obispo, CA... > > Randy Dettmer > 680F/N6253X > > > __________ NOD32 1.988 (20050131) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.988 (20050131) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:29 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Wing to fuselage is where my 500B leaked. I sign for my 680FLP Mr. RPM tomorrow, I'm so excited I can hardly contain myself. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Commander-List: Commander Covers > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > Hello Commanderland > I am looking for a solution to preventing rain water from seeping into my > 680F. Since I do not have the luxury of a hangar to protect my cherished > Commander, I am wondering if anyone has had any sucess with covers. I > remember that Dennis Poletti (hope I spelled that right...) had a cover for > his Commander that covered the fuselage. Do they work..?? Morris has > worked hard to seal windows during annual inspections, but the rain just > keeps coming in and soaking the carpet. > > If anybody has any insight to this situation, I would appreciate hearing > from you. Thanks for your help. > > Wet in San Luis Obispo, CA... > > Randy Dettmer > 680F/N6253X > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:11 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" I remember having had the same problem with my 500. The water would appear to drip from behind the overhead console. It wasn't much but enough to be irritating. At one time I contemplated removing and resealing the windshield, but I had to sell her to emigrate to the US so it was never done. The covers I had made patch-covered only the windows, so I wasn't expecting any water protection from that. Just a piece of worthless information. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: Commander-List: Commander Covers > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > Hello Commanderland > I am looking for a solution to preventing rain water from seeping into my > 680F. Since I do not have the luxury of a hangar to protect my cherished > Commander, I am wondering if anyone has had any sucess with covers. I > remember that Dennis Poletti (hope I spelled that right...) had a cover for > his Commander that covered the fuselage. Do they work..?? Morris has > worked hard to seal windows during annual inspections, but the rain just > keeps coming in and soaking the carpet. > > If anybody has any insight to this situation, I would appreciate hearing > from you. Thanks for your help. > > Wet in San Luis Obispo, CA... > > Randy Dettmer > 680F/N6253X > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:54 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Tom, AWESOME!!! Let us know how you like it! /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > Wing to fuselage is where my 500B leaked. > I sign for my 680FLP Mr. RPM tomorrow, I'm so excited I can hardly contain > myself. > Tom F. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > To: "Commander Chat" > Subject: Commander-List: Commander Covers > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > > > > Hello Commanderland > > I am looking for a solution to preventing rain water from seeping into my > > 680F. Since I do not have the luxury of a hangar to protect my cherished > > Commander, I am wondering if anyone has had any sucess with covers. I > > remember that Dennis Poletti (hope I spelled that right...) had a cover > for > > his Commander that covered the fuselage. Do they work..?? Morris has > > worked hard to seal windows during annual inspections, but the rain just > > keeps coming in and soaking the carpet. > > > > If anybody has any insight to this situation, I would appreciate hearing > > from you. Thanks for your help. > > > > Wet in San Luis Obispo, CA... > > > > Randy Dettmer > > 680F/N6253X > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.988 (20050131) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.988 (20050131) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:24 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 31-Jan-05 18:44:13 Pacific Standard Time, tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: > I sign for my 680FLP Mr. RPM tomorrow, I'm so excited I can hardly contain > myself. Tom! That's great news. Which one are you buying? Wing Commander Gordon ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:43 PM PST US From: "Lowell Girod" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" Randy; I have a cover for my 560E, got it from Bruce's Covers at Sun & Fun last year. I never had too much of a problem with leaks but was concerned about the new windshields, however this one goes from just ahead of the windshield to over the leading edges. It hooks over the wings to the flaps and two straps under the fuselage. So far I am pleased, I will send you a picture direct if you are interested. I also have trouble finding a hanger, seems like most hangers where I keep my Commander have forty or fifty foot doors. Don > [Original Message] > From: Randy Dettmer, AIA > To: Commander Chat > Date: 1/31/2005 9:32:12 PM > Subject: Commander-List: Commander Covers > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > Hello Commanderland > I am looking for a solution to preventing rain water from seeping into my > 680F. Since I do not have the luxury of a hangar to protect my cherished > Commander, I am wondering if anyone has had any sucess with covers. I > remember that Dennis Poletti (hope I spelled that right...) had a cover for > his Commander that covered the fuselage. Do they work..?? Morris has > worked hard to seal windows during annual inspections, but the rain just > keeps coming in and soaking the carpet. > > If anybody has any insight to this situation, I would appreciate hearing > from you. Thanks for your help. > > Wet in San Luis Obispo, CA... > > Randy Dettmer > 680F/N6253X > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:31 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" After I sign I will tell all. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 31-Jan-05 18:44:13 Pacific Standard Time, > tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: > > > I sign for my 680FLP Mr. RPM tomorrow, I'm so excited I can hardly contain > > myself. > > Tom! > > That's great news. Which one are you buying? > > Wing Commander Gordon > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:54 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Randy et. al., http://www.aircraftcovers.com/techsheets/ac500.html Looks like a pretty good set of options, and at roughly $800 it might be a good investment... Great, thanks guys. With a new interior & windshield to protect, now you've got me thinking maybe I should get one too. When will I be done spending money on this thing? (that's a rhetorical question, I already know the answer) /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Girod" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander Covers > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > Randy; > > I have a cover for my 560E, got it from Bruce's Covers at Sun & Fun last > year. I never had too much of a problem with leaks but was concerned about > the new windshields, however this one goes from just ahead of the > windshield to over the leading edges. It hooks over the wings to the flaps > and two straps under the fuselage. So far I am pleased, I will send you a > picture direct if you are interested. I also have trouble finding a > hanger, seems like most hangers where I keep my Commander have forty or > fifty foot doors. > > Don > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Randy Dettmer, AIA > > To: Commander Chat > > Date: 1/31/2005 9:32:12 PM > > Subject: Commander-List: Commander Covers > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > > > > Hello Commanderland > > I am looking for a solution to preventing rain water from seeping into my > > 680F. Since I do not have the luxury of a hangar to protect my cherished > > Commander, I am wondering if anyone has had any sucess with covers. I > > remember that Dennis Poletti (hope I spelled that right...) had a cover > for > > his Commander that covered the fuselage. Do they work..?? Morris has > > worked hard to seal windows during annual inspections, but the rain just > > keeps coming in and soaking the carpet. > > > > If anybody has any insight to this situation, I would appreciate hearing > > from you. Thanks for your help. > > > > Wet in San Luis Obispo, CA... > > > > Randy Dettmer > > 680F/N6253X > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.988 (20050131) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.988 (20050131) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:58 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Covers --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Randy, One good thing, if the Bruce's cover is a good one.....they're here in Sunnyvale, about a 5 min. drive from PAO! /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Girod" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander Covers > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > Randy; > > I have a cover for my 560E, got it from Bruce's Covers at Sun & Fun last > year. I never had too much of a problem with leaks but was concerned about > the new windshields, however this one goes from just ahead of the > windshield to over the leading edges. It hooks over the wings to the flaps > and two straps under the fuselage. So far I am pleased, I will send you a > picture direct if you are interested. I also have trouble finding a > hanger, seems like most hangers where I keep my Commander have forty or > fifty foot doors. > > Don > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Randy Dettmer, AIA > > To: Commander Chat > > Date: 1/31/2005 9:32:12 PM > > Subject: Commander-List: Commander Covers > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" > > > > > Hello Commanderland > > I am looking for a solution to preventing rain water from seeping into my > > 680F. Since I do not have the luxury of a hangar to protect my cherished > > Commander, I am wondering if anyone has had any sucess with covers. I > > remember that Dennis Poletti (hope I spelled that right...) had a cover > for > > his Commander that covered the fuselage. Do they work..?? Morris has > > worked hard to seal windows during annual inspections, but the rain just > > keeps coming in and soaking the carpet. > > > > If anybody has any insight to this situation, I would appreciate hearing > > from you. Thanks for your help. > > > > Wet in San Luis Obispo, CA... > > > > Randy Dettmer > > 680F/N6253X > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.988 (20050131) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.988 (20050131) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > >