---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/03/05: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:13 AM - Re: She's HOME! (Barry Collman) 2. 04:23 AM - Re: She's HOME! (Bill Bow) 3. 05:14 AM - Re: She's HOME! (Russell Legg) 4. 06:35 AM - Re: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action (Kerry Johnson) 5. 07:14 AM - Re: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action (nico css) 6. 07:29 AM - Props (Matthew J. Hawkins) 7. 08:51 AM - Re: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action (Kerry Johnson) 8. 10:16 AM - Re: She's HOME! (Lowell Girod) 9. 10:49 AM - Re: She's HOME! (John Vormbaum) 10. 11:41 AM - Re: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action (dcm@c-sw.com) 11. 02:33 PM - Lost Pilot? (nico css) 12. 02:45 PM - Re: Lost Pilot? (Tom Fisher) 13. 03:07 PM - Re: Lost Pilot? (Bill Bow) 14. 03:20 PM - Re: Props (Daniel Stewart) 15. 03:23 PM - Re: Lost Pilot? (John Vormbaum) 16. 03:26 PM - Re: Lost Pilot? (Bill Bow) 17. 03:38 PM - Re: Lost Pilot? (Tom Fisher) 18. 04:51 PM - Re: Aero Commander (Daniel Stewart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:51 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: She's HOME! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi John! Very nice-looking machine! I've always liked the black surround to the cockpit area. It sort of makes a "this is my office" statement. It's akin to people who have a moustache. They think their nose is so important, they underline it!! Now, be sure and keep it in good shape for pride of place in the Fly-In line-up! Very Best Regards, Barry C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Commander-List: She's HOME! | --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" | | Commanderland, | | After an extended wait, N353CC is back home in her new livery. Check out the pics at: http://www.vormbaum.com/sys-tmpl/thenewmoby/ | | VERY SPECIAL THANKS need to go out to Captain Jimbob, for being a tireless and patient ferry pilot, and an even better friend for watching out for my best interests: a wasted trip....he flew out only to discover that the airplane wasn't finished, and wrote up a 65-squawk list, and kicked them in the butt to get it fixed. Then 10 days later he repeated the trip to get the airplane home for me. THANKS JIM! | | No more back-40 portion of the ramp for me anymore, at this year's fly-in I'll be looking for a front-row spot with the big boys! | | /John | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:32 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: She's HOME! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" >>It's akin to people who have a moustache. They think their nose is so >>important, they underline it!! You suppose that's why Hoover has a handlebar mustache???? bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: She's HOME! > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > > Hi John! > > Very nice-looking machine! > > I've always liked the black surround to the cockpit area. It sort of makes > a > "this is my office" statement. > > It's akin to people who have a moustache. They think their nose is so > important, > they underline it!! > > Now, be sure and keep it in good shape for pride of place in the Fly-In > line-up! > > Very Best Regards, > Barry C. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Vormbaum" > To: > Subject: Commander-List: She's HOME! > > > > the > pics at: http://www.vormbaum.com/sys-tmpl/thenewmoby/ > tireless and > patient ferry pilot, and an even better friend for watching out for my > best > interests: a wasted trip....he flew out only to discover that the airplane > wasn't finished, and wrote up a 65-squawk list, and kicked them in the > butt to > get it fixed. Then 10 days later he repeated the trip to get the airplane > home > for me. THANKS JIM! > fly-in I'll > be looking for a front-row spot with the big boys! > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: She's HOME! From: Russell Legg --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg G'day John, Congratulations old mate!! Great to see the new paint job/interior. Nice parking spot right at the base of the tower. Couldn't quite make out any champagne marks on the front tire, but a big Ozzie toast coming your way... Hey, well done for sticking to that 5 year business plan to bring it up to scratch. Cheers Russell On 3/2/05 9:25 AM, "John Vormbaum" wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > Commanderland, > > After an extended wait, N353CC is back home in her new livery. Check out the > pics at: http://www.vormbaum.com/sys-tmpl/thenewmoby/ > > VERY SPECIAL THANKS need to go out to Captain Jimbob, for being a tireless and > patient ferry pilot, and an even better friend for watching out for my best > interests: a wasted trip....he flew out only to discover that the airplane > wasn't finished, and wrote up a 65-squawk list, and kicked them in the butt to > get it fixed. Then 10 days later he repeated the trip to get the airplane home > for me. THANKS JIM! > > No more back-40 portion of the ramp for me anymore, at this year's fly-in I'll > be looking for a front-row spot with the big boys! > > /John > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:03 AM PST US From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" I agree, Hatch is well known and I doubt Blakely wants to butt heads with him. We also understand that Senator Bennett is or has written Blakely a letter along the same lines as Hatch. Bennett as you probably know is on the Transportation Board Appropriations Committee, so he has direct financial oversight of the FAA. It should be interesting to see how this all plays out. Kerry -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 02-Feb-05 06:58:34 Pacific Standard Time, kerry@kvelectric.com writes: > Haven't heard if the FAA has responded to Senator Hatch yet, but my > guess is that they will. Count on it. Excellent development. Hatch isn't exactly a junior senator and Blakely doesn't want to get on his bad side, if she's half smart. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:33 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" I guess this is the time Blakely wished this was just a quiet incident, huh? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > I agree, Hatch is well known and I doubt Blakely wants to butt heads > with him. We also understand that Senator Bennett is or has written > Blakely a letter along the same lines as Hatch. Bennett as you probably > know is on the Transportation Board Appropriations Committee, so he has > direct financial oversight of the FAA. It should be interesting to see > how this all plays out. > > Kerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > CloudCraft@aol.com > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 02-Feb-05 06:58:34 Pacific Standard Time, > kerry@kvelectric.com writes: > > > Haven't heard if the FAA has responded to Senator Hatch yet, but my > > guess is that they will. > > Count on it. Excellent development. Hatch isn't exactly a junior > senator and Blakely doesn't want to get on his bad side, if she's half > smart. > > Wing Commander Gordon > > Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:30 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Props From: "Matthew J. Hawkins" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins" Dan- I apologize if you (and everyone else) are getting this message again. I've had trouble getting subscribed to the mailing list and not sure if the original message went out - I got a number of kickbacks, but I'm at least receiving traffic again. Yes - we could use a set of props! I'm new to the group. About a year ago, my father bought N2760B here in Georgetown, Delaware (GED) and was doing a complete refurbishment to her. Unfortunately, he passed away suddenly in November before he finished the project. My family and I are pressing on with completing Dad's project. I've attached a couple of photos of where we are in the process. Engines are due back from overhaul in the next week or so. All we need are props and we've had one hell of a time trying to find a decent set - w/o paying the $28K each! All help appreciated! My mechanic is checking the numbers of what you have to make sure they'll work - GO480 engines, so 99% sure they'd be OK. The props that were originally on her were: HC83X20-2C But I understand those only have a 250 hr AD on them. Please let me know if you still have (or if anyone else has a set) and feel free to e-mail or call direct. Matt Hawkins hawkins@udel.edu 302-645-4341 (work) 302-424-1852 (home) 410-924-2472 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Stewart Subject: Commander-List: Anyone need props? --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart --> Hey Commanderland. Does anyone have need for a pair of practically new props. They have only 30hours on them. These are the new MV shank props from Hartzell that are direct replacements for the originals. They are 3 bladed, 84 for the spline shaft engines, such as GO480B. Model #: HC-A3MV20-2/MV8433N These were the permanent solution to AD 97-18-02. New ones are $28,870 each I will part with these for much less. If interested, reply directly to me to avoid unnecessary chatter on the commander board. Thanks, Dan ******************** Matthew Hawkins Director, Marine Ops R/V Cape Henlopen 302-645-4341 FAX: 302-645-4006 hawkins@udel.edu ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:26 AM PST US From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" That would be my guess and I'll bet she is wishing the field agent that tattled on Jeremy was a bit less zealous. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css Subject: Re: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" --> I guess this is the time Blakely wished this was just a quiet incident, huh? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Johnson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" > > I agree, Hatch is well known and I doubt Blakely wants to butt heads > with him. We also understand that Senator Bennett is or has written > Blakely a letter along the same lines as Hatch. Bennett as you > probably know is on the Transportation Board Appropriations Committee, > so he has direct financial oversight of the FAA. It should be > interesting to see how this all plays out. > > Kerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > CloudCraft@aol.com > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 02-Feb-05 06:58:34 Pacific Standard Time, > kerry@kvelectric.com writes: > > > Haven't heard if the FAA has responded to Senator Hatch yet, but my > > guess is that they will. > > Count on it. Excellent development. Hatch isn't exactly a junior > senator and Blakely doesn't want to get on his bad side, if she's half > smart. > > Wing Commander Gordon > > Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:17 AM PST US From: "Lowell Girod" Subject: Re: Commander-List: She's HOME! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" John; A very nice looking Commander. I have my 560E done similar, except I swept the strips up the tail. My interior is gray leather like yours, but my inside window frames are not nearly as nice, did you get new ones or just refurbish the old ones, beautiful and I know you are proud of it. A beautiful lady is always an asset, all things considered. Don ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:26 AM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: She's HOME! --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Hi Don, Honestly...I'm not sure! I didn't get a chance to really pick at the interior yesterday. I *think* they just refurbished the existing window frames, but you've made me curious. I'll let you know, after I take a closer look. I'm very pleased with the way the paint scheme came out. By not going up the tail like most Commanders, I took a little risk. In the end I think it accomplished my goal, which was to make the airplane look longer and graceful. Should be good for 7 years or so! /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Girod" Subject: Re: Commander-List: She's HOME! > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > John; > > A very nice looking Commander. I have my 560E done similar, except I swept > the strips up the tail. My interior is gray leather like yours, but my > inside window frames are not nearly as nice, did you get new ones or just > refurbish the old ones, beautiful and I know you are proud of it. A > beautiful lady is always an asset, all things considered. > > Don > > > __________ NOD32 1.990 (20050202) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.990 (20050202) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:24 AM PST US From: "dcm@c-sw.com" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action --> Commander-List message posted by: "dcm@c-sw.com" Greetings Group, Wouldn't this make a *great* SouthWest Airlines Ad? You know, where someone finds themselves in an awkward situation -- the punchline is "Do You Ever Just Want To Get Away?". I know I would enjoy it... Kind Regards, David Original Message: ----------------- From: Kerry Johnson kerry@kvelectric.com Subject: RE: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kerry Johnson" That would be my guess and I'll bet she is wishing the field agent that tattled on Jeremy was a bit less zealous. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css Subject: Re: Commander-List: Jeremy Johnson & FAA Action --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" --> I guess this is the time Blakely wished this was just a quiet incident, huh? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:33:27 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" Folks, I came across this piece of interesting email just now. Does anyone know anything about this? Nico I have purchased a vertical card compass at an aircraft salvage yard. On the compass is a note which states "this compass is CUSTOM MODIFIED for Mr. Gordon Pugh for his Mooney Mite. All headings are 180 degrees off". I was told by the salvage yard that Mr Pugh modified the compass for use on a flight to the North Pole, and that it would be more (????) accurate reading opposite. I just typed "Gordon Pugh" into Google Search engine, and it returned an article about a Mr. Pugh's Flight to Alaska. It further stated that the Mooney Mite (337M) is missing or unaccounted for. I know where the airplane was and would like to contact Gordon. The Alaska Story had him living in New England, problably New Hampshire. I think he would be about 70 to 75 years of age. My limited search of FAA records doesn't show current pilots certificate. That's about all I know. Can some of you computer geeks find him? Or can anyone forward this to a pilot/Mooney fan/adventurer/etc. who might know him. He doesn't owe me any money, I just think he might enjoy knowing where his airplane is/was located. Sorry, this is not more Rocket related, but thanks for the help. Les Featherston 417-466-4663h or 417-425-3595c Morocketman@aol.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:45:21 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" I flew a Bell 212 helicopter in the high Arctic in the winter time in the 70's. We used stars and VLF Omega for position information. In the summer when the sum actually made an appearance we took sun shots using our HF radio for GMT reference. I really would like to hear how a magnetic compass would work offset to anything as I was both North and South of the magnetic North pole. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > Folks, > > I came across this piece of interesting email just now. Does anyone know > anything about this? > > Nico > > > I have purchased a vertical card compass at an aircraft > salvage yard. On the compass is a note which states "this compass is > CUSTOM > MODIFIED for Mr. Gordon Pugh for his Mooney Mite. All headings are 180 > degrees > off". I was told by the salvage yard that Mr Pugh modified the compass for > use on a flight to the North Pole, and that it would be more (????) > accurate > reading opposite. I just typed "Gordon Pugh" into Google Search engine, > and > it returned an article about a Mr. Pugh's Flight to Alaska. It further > stated > that the Mooney Mite (337M) is missing or unaccounted for. I know where > the > airplane was and would like to contact Gordon. The Alaska Story had him > living in New England, problably New Hampshire. I think he would be about > 70 to > 75 years of age. My limited search of FAA records doesn't show current > pilots certificate. That's about all I know. Can some of you computer > geeks > find him? Or can anyone forward this to a pilot/Mooney fan/adventurer/etc. > who > might know him. He doesn't owe me any money, I just think he might enjoy > knowing where his airplane is/was located. Sorry, this is not more Rocket > related, but thanks for the help. > > Les Featherston > 417-466-4663h or 417-425-3595c > > Morocketman@aol.com > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:33 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" If you used Omega you're lucky to have made it home. What a piece of junk. The worst thing was an instalation where there were two of them. They NEVER agreed. I figured it there was only one, you just wouldn't know whether it was right or not, and would just go on. bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > I flew a Bell 212 helicopter in the high Arctic in the winter time in the > 70's. We used stars and VLF Omega for position information. In the summer > when the sum actually made an appearance we took sun shots using our HF > radio for GMT reference. > I really would like to hear how a magnetic compass would work offset to > anything as I was both North and South of the magnetic North pole. > Tom F. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nico css" > To: > Subject: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > >> >> Folks, >> >> I came across this piece of interesting email just now. Does anyone know >> anything about this? >> >> Nico >> >> >> I have purchased a vertical card compass at an aircraft >> salvage yard. On the compass is a note which states "this compass is >> CUSTOM >> MODIFIED for Mr. Gordon Pugh for his Mooney Mite. All headings are 180 >> degrees >> off". I was told by the salvage yard that Mr Pugh modified the compass > for >> use on a flight to the North Pole, and that it would be more (????) >> accurate >> reading opposite. I just typed "Gordon Pugh" into Google Search engine, >> and >> it returned an article about a Mr. Pugh's Flight to Alaska. It further >> stated >> that the Mooney Mite (337M) is missing or unaccounted for. I know where >> the >> airplane was and would like to contact Gordon. The Alaska Story had him >> living in New England, problably New Hampshire. I think he would be > about >> 70 to >> 75 years of age. My limited search of FAA records doesn't show current >> pilots certificate. That's about all I know. Can some of you computer >> geeks >> find him? Or can anyone forward this to a pilot/Mooney > fan/adventurer/etc. >> who >> might know him. He doesn't owe me any money, I just think he might >> enjoy >> knowing where his airplane is/was located. Sorry, this is not more > Rocket >> related, but thanks for the help. >> >> Les Featherston >> 417-466-4663h or 417-425-3595c >> >> Morocketman@aol.com >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:20:01 PM PST US From: Daniel Stewart Subject: RE: Commander-List: Props --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart Matt, I am asking only $9K more for the whole flying plane($45K) then for just the props ($36K). She was last flown in the end of 02. I regulary run the plane up and cycle the props. The plane is flyable and was flown till my anual expiered. The plane had nothing notibly wronge with her and could be annualled or ferry permitted to move her. Engines run well and have high compression tests. All new glass and opening pilot/copilot windows, new exhast all around, rebuilt carb, rebuilt engine mount, surface corrostion was removed and treated, new spin on oil filtration system installed, new interiour 50% complete. Many hydrolic lines replaced. New brake lines and brake pads, New accumulater bladder and filter. Needless to say the last annual in Nov 01 was pretty thorough. I currently have a couple persons dwelling on the plane, so I will give them 2 weeks to decide. If they don't take her then the props are yours. If you are interested in the whole plane, let me know. I have a call in to my mechanic and will let you know the cost of removing/crating the props. Yes, I have 11 top assemblies for $800, each is lubricated and sealed in a 5 gallon bucket with desecant and humitity monitors. They come with complete gasket sets. Yes, my 6 older blades clamps and hubs may have a recurring AD inspection on them. They are tagged "servicable". Regards, Dan "Matthew J. Hawkins" wrote: Dan- That's too bad - a paint job is a easy thing to fix! What were you asking for the whole plane? Just curious. How long has your plane been sitting? You mentioned only 30 hours on the props - just trying to get an idea of when they were last spun around. Just talked with my mechanic and (as you would guess), he'd prefer another mechanic to do the removal. Plus (like you say) he could crate them properly and direct ship them out to our prop shop. Happy to pay for those costs. Could you get an estimate from your mechanic to remove, crate, and ship? Saw in one of your previous e-mails that you're asking $800 each for the cylinder assemblies - that price still good? We may be interested. I take it the 6 original prop blades you mention are the ones with the 250 hr AD? Thanks, Matt -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Stewart [mailto:dstewart7777@yahoo.com] Subject: RE: Commander-List: Props The props are still on my 560. Was trying to sell the whole plane, but because the plane needs paint badly, knowone wants to buy it. Would you want me to remove the props or have a mechanic do it. You would need to pay for the mechanics fees. The mechanic could arange direct shippment to your prop shop in PA. We are in Wattsonville CA. Do you know anyone who would want any other part of this 560. I also have 11 rebuilt cylinder assemblies sealled for spares. Dan --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:01 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Sounds like the old saying, "a man with one watch knows what time it is. A man with two isn't quite sure." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" > > If you used Omega you're lucky to have made it home. What a piece of junk. > The worst thing was an instalation where there were two of them. They NEVER > agreed. I figured it there was only one, you just wouldn't know whether it > was right or not, and would just go on. > > bilbo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > > > > I flew a Bell 212 helicopter in the high Arctic in the winter time in the > > 70's. We used stars and VLF Omega for position information. In the summer > > when the sum actually made an appearance we took sun shots using our HF > > radio for GMT reference. > > I really would like to hear how a magnetic compass would work offset to > > anything as I was both North and South of the magnetic North pole. > > Tom F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "nico css" > > To: > > Subject: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > > >> > >> Folks, > >> > >> I came across this piece of interesting email just now. Does anyone know > >> anything about this? > >> > >> Nico > >> > >> > >> I have purchased a vertical card compass at an aircraft > >> salvage yard. On the compass is a note which states "this compass is > >> CUSTOM > >> MODIFIED for Mr. Gordon Pugh for his Mooney Mite. All headings are 180 > >> degrees > >> off". I was told by the salvage yard that Mr Pugh modified the compass > > for > >> use on a flight to the North Pole, and that it would be more (????) > >> accurate > >> reading opposite. I just typed "Gordon Pugh" into Google Search engine, > >> and > >> it returned an article about a Mr. Pugh's Flight to Alaska. It further > >> stated > >> that the Mooney Mite (337M) is missing or unaccounted for. I know where > >> the > >> airplane was and would like to contact Gordon. The Alaska Story had him > >> living in New England, problably New Hampshire. I think he would be > > about > >> 70 to > >> 75 years of age. My limited search of FAA records doesn't show current > >> pilots certificate. That's about all I know. Can some of you computer > >> geeks > >> find him? Or can anyone forward this to a pilot/Mooney > > fan/adventurer/etc. > >> who > >> might know him. He doesn't owe me any money, I just think he might > >> enjoy > >> knowing where his airplane is/was located. Sorry, this is not more > > Rocket > >> related, but thanks for the help. > >> > >> Les Featherston > >> 417-466-4663h or 417-425-3595c > >> > >> Morocketman@aol.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.990 (20050202) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.990 (20050202) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:53 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" EXACTLY! bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > Sounds like the old saying, "a man with one watch knows what time it is. A > man with two isn't quite sure." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Bow" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" >> >> If you used Omega you're lucky to have made it home. What a piece of > junk. >> The worst thing was an instalation where there were two of them. They > NEVER >> agreed. I figured it there was only one, you just wouldn't know whether > it >> was right or not, and would just go on. >> >> bilbo >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Fisher" >> To: >> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? >> >> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" >> > >> > >> > I flew a Bell 212 helicopter in the high Arctic in the winter time in > the >> > 70's. We used stars and VLF Omega for position information. In the > summer >> > when the sum actually made an appearance we took sun shots using our HF >> > radio for GMT reference. >> > I really would like to hear how a magnetic compass would work offset to >> > anything as I was both North and South of the magnetic North pole. >> > Tom F. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "nico css" >> > To: >> > Subject: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? >> > >> > >> >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" >> > >> >> >> >> Folks, >> >> >> >> I came across this piece of interesting email just now. Does anyone > know >> >> anything about this? >> >> >> >> Nico >> >> >> >> >> >> I have purchased a vertical card compass at an aircraft >> >> salvage yard. On the compass is a note which states "this compass is >> >> CUSTOM >> >> MODIFIED for Mr. Gordon Pugh for his Mooney Mite. All headings are > 180 >> >> degrees >> >> off". I was told by the salvage yard that Mr Pugh modified the > compass >> > for >> >> use on a flight to the North Pole, and that it would be more (????) >> >> accurate >> >> reading opposite. I just typed "Gordon Pugh" into Google Search > engine, >> >> and >> >> it returned an article about a Mr. Pugh's Flight to Alaska. It > further >> >> stated >> >> that the Mooney Mite (337M) is missing or unaccounted for. I know > where >> >> the >> >> airplane was and would like to contact Gordon. The Alaska Story had > him >> >> living in New England, problably New Hampshire. I think he would be >> > about >> >> 70 to >> >> 75 years of age. My limited search of FAA records doesn't show > current >> >> pilots certificate. That's about all I know. Can some of you > computer >> >> geeks >> >> find him? Or can anyone forward this to a pilot/Mooney >> > fan/adventurer/etc. >> >> who >> >> might know him. He doesn't owe me any money, I just think he might >> >> enjoy >> >> knowing where his airplane is/was located. Sorry, this is not more >> > Rocket >> >> related, but thanks for the help. >> >> >> >> Les Featherston >> >> 417-466-4663h or 417-425-3595c >> >> >> >> Morocketman@aol.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.990 (20050202) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.nod32.com >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.990 (20050202) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.nod32.com >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:38:17 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Not only that, every time we landed or took off the snow crystals from the down wash would wipe out all the signals, it was fun. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" > > If you used Omega you're lucky to have made it home. What a piece of junk. > The worst thing was an instalation where there were two of them. They NEVER > agreed. I figured it there was only one, you just wouldn't know whether it > was right or not, and would just go on. > > bilbo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > > > > I flew a Bell 212 helicopter in the high Arctic in the winter time in the > > 70's. We used stars and VLF Omega for position information. In the summer > > when the sum actually made an appearance we took sun shots using our HF > > radio for GMT reference. > > I really would like to hear how a magnetic compass would work offset to > > anything as I was both North and South of the magnetic North pole. > > Tom F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "nico css" > > To: > > Subject: Commander-List: Lost Pilot? > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > > >> > >> Folks, > >> > >> I came across this piece of interesting email just now. Does anyone know > >> anything about this? > >> > >> Nico > >> > >> > >> I have purchased a vertical card compass at an aircraft > >> salvage yard. On the compass is a note which states "this compass is > >> CUSTOM > >> MODIFIED for Mr. Gordon Pugh for his Mooney Mite. All headings are 180 > >> degrees > >> off". I was told by the salvage yard that Mr Pugh modified the compass > > for > >> use on a flight to the North Pole, and that it would be more (????) > >> accurate > >> reading opposite. I just typed "Gordon Pugh" into Google Search engine, > >> and > >> it returned an article about a Mr. Pugh's Flight to Alaska. It further > >> stated > >> that the Mooney Mite (337M) is missing or unaccounted for. I know where > >> the > >> airplane was and would like to contact Gordon. The Alaska Story had him > >> living in New England, problably New Hampshire. I think he would be > > about > >> 70 to > >> 75 years of age. My limited search of FAA records doesn't show current > >> pilots certificate. That's about all I know. Can some of you computer > >> geeks > >> find him? Or can anyone forward this to a pilot/Mooney > > fan/adventurer/etc. > >> who > >> might know him. He doesn't owe me any money, I just think he might > >> enjoy > >> knowing where his airplane is/was located. Sorry, this is not more > > Rocket > >> related, but thanks for the help. > >> > >> Les Featherston > >> 417-466-4663h or 417-425-3595c > >> > >> Morocketman@aol.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:51:25 PM PST US From: Daniel Stewart Subject: Commander-List: Re: Aero Commander --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart Jim, can you accept high res pictures (do you have high speed connection)? Dan JBOBSTER@aol.com wrote: I llove to buy airplanes with bad paint...... please send pics to this e-mail address and /or call me! Jim Carroll Seattle WA 206 623 3720 ---------------------------------