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Tue 03/01/05


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 06:52 AM - 500S crash in San Juan (James Rodriguez Colom)
     2. 08:27 AM - Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
     3. 12:58 PM - Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... (Tom Fisher)
     4. 01:47 PM - Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... (Bill Bow)
     5. 02:28 PM - Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... (nico css)
     6. 03:22 PM - Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... (Tom Fisher)
     7. 05:25 PM - Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... (Kevin Coons)
     8. 06:00 PM - Re: Piston commander for sale (todd@hindmarsh.us)
     9. 11:38 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:52:25 AM PST US
    From: "James Rodriguez Colom" <jamesrodriguez@bppr.com>
    Subject: 500S crash in San Juan
    0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary --> Commander-List message posted by: "James Rodriguez Colom" <jamesrodriguez@bppr.com> Hi Gang, Unfortunately, N97VB, Shrike s/n 3233 registered to Clair Aero in St. Thomas, USVI, was lost yesterday in San Juan. Luckily, there were no casualties but the airplane was totaled. Fuel contamination is the likely cause. Regards, Jimmy N107VC CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This communication and any attachments hereto contain information that may be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. The information is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agent entrusted with the responsibility of delivering the message to the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying or distribution of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error please delete or destroy all copies and notify the sender immediately. In addition, although precautions have been taken to ensure that the data included herein is free from viruses or other malicious content, we cannot assure that such is indeed the case and disclaim any responsibility attributable thereto. AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este documento, y cualquier anejo incluido, contienen informaci=F3n que podr=EDa considerarse privilegiada, confidencial y exenta de divulgaci=F3n bajo las leyes aplicables. La informaci=F3n es para el uso exclusivo del individuo o entidad a quien est=E1 dirigida. Si usted no es el destinatario, el empleado o el agente a quien se le confi=F3 la responsabilidad de hacer llegar el mensaje al destinatario, debe percatarse que la divulgaci=F3n, copia o distribuci=F3n de esta transmisi=F3n est=E1 estrictamente prohibida. Si ha recibido esta comunicaci=F3n por error, favor de borrarla o destruir todas las copias y notificar al remitente inmediatamente. Adem=E1s, aunque se hayan tomado precauciones para asegurar que los datos que aqu=ED se incluyen est=E1n libre de virus u otro contenido malintencionado, no podemos asegurar que as=ED sea y, por lo tanto, no nos hacemos responsables de cualquier da=F1o atribuible al caso.


    Message 2


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    Time: 08:27:44 AM PST US
    From: YOURTCFG@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART
    Spam t... --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 3/1/2005 6:53:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jamesrodriguez@bppr.com writes: Unfortunately, N97VB, Shrike s/n 3233 registered to Clair Aero in St. Thomas, USVI, was lost yesterday in San Juan. Wow, how sad!! Glad to hear no one was hurt, but the loss of another Commander is sad. jb


    Message 3


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    Time: 12:58:14 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART
    Spam t... --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> This is one reason a separated fuel supply (one for each engine) is nice to have. Too bad. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > In a message dated 3/1/2005 6:53:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > jamesrodriguez@bppr.com writes: > > Unfortunately, N97VB, Shrike s/n 3233 registered to Clair Aero in St. > Thomas, USVI, was lost yesterday in San Juan. > > > Wow, how sad!! Glad to hear no one was hurt, but the loss of another > Commander is sad. jb > >


    Message 4


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    Time: 01:47:30 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART
    Spam t... --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net> If it comes from the same source(gas truck) I don't see much difference. bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > This is one reason a separated fuel supply (one for each engine) is nice > to > have. > Too bad. > Tom F. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 > MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART > Spam t... > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com >> >> >> In a message dated 3/1/2005 6:53:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> jamesrodriguez@bppr.com writes: >> >> Unfortunately, N97VB, Shrike s/n 3233 registered to Clair Aero in St. >> Thomas, USVI, was lost yesterday in San Juan. >> >> >> Wow, how sad!! Glad to hear no one was hurt, but the loss of another >> Commander is sad. jb >> >> > > >


    Message 5


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    Time: 02:28:42 PM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART
    Spam t... --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> Or if they put Avtur into a piston Shrike. I wrote about my experience in this regard a while back. It happened because I was not personally supervising the refuelling. It could be a fatal mistake. I am not suggesting that is what brought N97VB down. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net> > > If it comes from the same source(gas truck) I don't see much difference. > > bilbo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART > Spam t... > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > > > This is one reason a separated fuel supply (one for each engine) is nice > > to > > have. > > Too bad. > > Tom F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 > > MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART > > Spam t... > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 3/1/2005 6:53:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> jamesrodriguez@bppr.com writes: > >> > >> Unfortunately, N97VB, Shrike s/n 3233 registered to Clair Aero in St. > >> Thomas, USVI, was lost yesterday in San Juan. > >> > >> > >> Wow, how sad!! Glad to hear no one was hurt, but the loss of another > >> Commander is sad. jb > >> > >> > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:22:51 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART
    Spam t... --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> Leaky fuel cap? my CDN$.02 worth. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net> > > If it comes from the same source(gas truck) I don't see much difference. > > bilbo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART > Spam t... > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > > > This is one reason a separated fuel supply (one for each engine) is nice > > to > > have. > > Too bad. > > Tom F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 > > MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART > > Spam t... > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 3/1/2005 6:53:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> jamesrodriguez@bppr.com writes: > >> > >> Unfortunately, N97VB, Shrike s/n 3233 registered to Clair Aero in St. > >> Thomas, USVI, was lost yesterday in San Juan. > >> > >> > >> Wow, how sad!! Glad to hear no one was hurt, but the loss of another > >> Commander is sad. jb > >> > >> > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:25:54 PM PST US
    From: "Kevin Coons" <kevincoons@cavucompanies.net>
    Subject: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART
    Spam t... --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kevin Coons" <kevincoons@cavucompanies.net> N97VB was at my home airport Cincinnati Lunken KLUK the summer of 2003. She had both engines O/H by Signature Aircraft engines. I believe they had it painted during that time as well. As always I am thankful when no one gets injured. Everyone fly safe. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> Leaky fuel cap? my CDN$.02 worth. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam t... > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net> > > If it comes from the same source(gas truck) I don't see much difference. > > bilbo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART > Spam t... > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > > > This is one reason a separated fuel supply (one for each engine) is nice > > to > > have. > > Too bad. > > Tom F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500S crash in San Juan 0.00 > > MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART > > Spam t... > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 3/1/2005 6:53:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> jamesrodriguez@bppr.com writes: > >> > >> Unfortunately, N97VB, Shrike s/n 3233 registered to Clair Aero in St. > >> Thomas, USVI, was lost yesterday in San Juan. > >> > >> > >> Wow, how sad!! Glad to hear no one was hurt, but the loss of another > >> Commander is sad. jb > >> > >> > > > > > > > >


    Message 8


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    Time: 06:00:43 PM PST US
    From: todd@hindmarsh.us
    Subject: Re: Piston commander for sale
    --> Commander-List message posted by: todd@hindmarsh.us I have a 1/4 ownership in a '58 680 that we would like to sell. I'm currently in Houston and the plane is in Provo, Utah. We're trying to locate the mechanic who has our log books. He left employment at the FBO where he was stationed and took the log books with him. As soon as we find the log books we're going to get the annual done and I'll be bringing it to Houston. At that time I will be putting it up for sell. If you are interested in a 680 let me know. You can see a picture of the plane online at: http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N6229B&distinct_entry=true Regards, Todd Hindmarsh N6229B > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [SPAM] Re: Commander-List: Fw: Pilots > From: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net > Date: Sat, February 26, 2005 10:25 pm > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > --> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net > > Hey guys... > We are still seaching for a nice old piston Aero Commander...anyone know of one available for sale please let us know. > Thanxs guys > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > > > > > The entrance opens, two men dressed in pilots' uniforms walk up the aisle. Both > > are wearing dark glasses, one is using a guide dog, and the other is tapping his > > way along the aisle with a cane. > > > > Nervous laughter spreads through the cabin, but the men enter the cockpit, the > > door closes, and the engines start up. > > > > The passengers begin glancing nervously around, searching for some sign that > > this is just a little practical joke. None is forthcoming. The plane moves > > faster and faster down the runway, and the people sitting in the window seats > > realize they're headed straight for the water at the edge of the airport > > territory. As it begins to look as though the plane will plough into the water, > > panicked screams fill the cabin. > > > > At that moment, the plane lifts smoothly into the air. The passengers relax and > > laugh a little sheepishly, and soon all retreat into their magazines, secure in > > the knowledge that the plane is in good hands. > > > > In the cockpit, one of the blind pilots turns to the other and says, "You know, > > Frank, one of these days, they're gonna scream too late and we're all gonna > > die!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey guys... > We are still seaching for a nice old pistonAero Commander...anyone know of one available for sale please let us know. > Thanxs guys > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > -- Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <NICO@CYBERSUPERSTORE.COM> > > > The entrance opens, two men dressed in pilots' uniforms walk up the aisle. Both > are wearing dark glasses, one is using a guide dog, and the other is tapping his > way along the aisle with a cane. > > Nervous laughter spreads through the cabin, but the men enter the cockpit, the > door closes, and the engines start up. > > The passengers begin glancing nervously around, searching for some sign that > this is just a little practical joke. None is forthcoming. The plane moves > faster and faster down the runway, and the people sitting in the window seats > realize they're headed straight for the water at the edge of the airport > territory. As it begins > to look as though the plane will plough into the water, > panicked screams fill the cabin. > > At that moment, the plane lifts smoothly into the air. The passengers relax and > laugh a little sheepishly, and soon all retreat into their magazines, secure in > the knowledge that the plane is in good hands. > > In the cockpit, one of the blind pilots turns to the other and says, "You know, > Frank, one of these days, they're gonna scream too late and we're all gonna > die!! > > > List Related Information > > > </B > LOCKQUOTE> > >


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    Time: 11:38:18 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Commander-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Lister, Please read over the Commander-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Commander-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Commander-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Commander-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Commander-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Commander-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Commander-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Commander-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.]




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