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1. 09:03 AM - HAPPY EASTER (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
2. 09:15 AM - Re: HAPPY EASTER (Frits Abbing)
3. 09:30 AM - Re: HAPPY EASTER (RRamm52@cs.com)
4. 10:06 AM - Re: HAPPY EASTER (Jim Addington)
5. 02:59 PM - Re: HAPPY EASTER (nico css)
6. 03:42 PM - Sale of My Baby (buddy@cyconenterprises.com)
7. 03:55 PM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/26/05 (joe@taccapitalgroup.com)
8. 04:05 PM - Single Engine flying (Larry Wokral)
9. 04:15 PM - Re: Sale of My Baby (John Vormbaum)
10. 04:17 PM - Re: Single Engine flying (alh1@juno.com)
11. 04:29 PM - Re: Single Engine flying (John Vormbaum)
12. 05:24 PM - Re: Sale of My Baby (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
13. 05:45 PM - Re: Sale of My Baby (Jim Addington)
14. 07:31 PM - Re: Single Engine flying (nico css)
15. 07:44 PM - Re: Sale of My Baby (nico css)
16. 11:31 PM - Re: Single Engine flying (Tom Fisher)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
I just want to wish all of you a Happy Easter! Remember, there is
no such thing as the Easter bunny. We celebrate this day a risen savior,
Jesus Christ. He died and was resurrect, today, so that you and I can have
eternal life basking in the glory of our almighty God, the creator of the
universe. His sacrifice was our gain. Eternal life WOW!!
Do you know him?? Are you sure of your salvation?? Where will you
spent eternity?? I hope it is with me in heaven. May God bless all of you this
wonderful day
Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
PS I sure hope there are Aero Commander in heaven!! With fuel tanks that
never go dry!! ;-) jb
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| Subject: | Re: HAPPY EASTER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Frits Abbing <fritsabbing@yahoo.com>
There is no fuel in heaven, they all fly on air.
And there is no FAA also, so ......!!!
Happy Easter.
--- YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote:
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> HI KIDS.
>
> I just want to wish all of you a Happy
> Easter! Remember, there is
> no such thing as the Easter bunny. We celebrate
> this day a risen savior,
> Jesus Christ. He died and was resurrect, today, so
> that you and I can have
> eternal life basking in the glory of our almighty
> God, the creator of the
> universe. His sacrifice was our gain. Eternal
> life WOW!!
> Do you know him?? Are you sure of your
> salvation?? Where will you
> spent eternity?? I hope it is with me in heaven.
> May God bless all of you this
> wonderful day
>
> Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
>
> PS I sure hope there are Aero Commander in heaven!!
> With fuel tanks that
> never go dry!! ;-) jb
>
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| Subject: | Re: HAPPY EASTER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com
Amen, Jim
Happy Easter, All.
Rob Munro
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Throw me in that briar patch too, no FAA and no fuel problems, really sounds
good.
Jim Addington
N444BD
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Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
I just want to wish all of you a Happy Easter! Remember, there is
no such thing as the Easter bunny. We celebrate this day a risen savior,
Jesus Christ. He died and was resurrect, today, so that you and I can have
eternal life basking in the glory of our almighty God, the creator of the
universe. His sacrifice was our gain. Eternal life WOW!!
Do you know him?? Are you sure of your salvation?? Where will you
spent eternity?? I hope it is with me in heaven. May God bless all of you
this
wonderful day
Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
PS I sure hope there are Aero Commander in heaven!! With fuel tanks that
never go dry!! ;-) jb
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| Subject: | Re: HAPPY EASTER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Thanks for your testimonies, guys. Not only no fuel required, but Aero
Commanders that can traverse the stars.
Praise God from whom all blessings flow.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
>
> Throw me in that briar patch too, no FAA and no fuel problems, really
sounds
> good.
>
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
>
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> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER
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> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> HI KIDS.
>
> I just want to wish all of you a Happy Easter! Remember, there
is
> no such thing as the Easter bunny. We celebrate this day a risen savior,
> Jesus Christ. He died and was resurrect, today, so that you and I can
have
> eternal life basking in the glory of our almighty God, the creator of the
> universe. His sacrifice was our gain. Eternal life WOW!!
> Do you know him?? Are you sure of your salvation?? Where will you
> spent eternity?? I hope it is with me in heaven. May God bless all of
you
> this
> wonderful day
>
> Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
>
> PS I sure hope there are Aero Commander in heaven!! With fuel tanks
that
> never go dry!! ;-) jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com
Hey guys,
It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce
that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my
developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak
heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I believe
is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which
must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my
stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo
and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the flight
group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of what
I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so
I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch.
H.W."Buddy" Windham
President
Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
Excalibur Contracting, Inc.
The Windham Companies, Inc.
L&B Investors, LLC
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> 1. 04:46 AM - Fw: seajean flying boat conversion (Avtec2)
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> From: "Avtec2" <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Commander-List: Fw: seajean flying boat conversion
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| Subject: | Single Engine flying |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral" <l.wokral@ix.netcom.com>
I just had an experience I thought I'd share or get some comments on.
While returning to Montana at 17,500' this last Thursday, my right engine
started loosing a little MP. Initially, I easily got it back with just a
little push of the throttle. Within a minute or so of this, it suddenly
dropped about 10 inches MP, and the engine started to run rough. I still had
oil pressure, and the JPI engine scanner didn't send any alarms. I looked
out the right window, and saw oil all over the nose bowl. I immediately shut
it down and feathered the prop.
So here I am VFR (on flight following) at 17,500' above a cloud deck over
very remote northern Nevada. I got everything stabilized, but I couldn't get
any rudder trim. Perhaps with all the rain in Central California while I was
there something froze up along the trim cable. The OAT was -25C. I easily
maintained 16,500' with just the left engine. My GPS said I was near the
McDermott airport. I've seen it from the air many times when flying my
Cardinal RG along this same route. It is literally in the middle of nowhere
with nothing around. There was at least a 2,000-5,000' thick layer of cold
clouds between me and it, and it has no instrument approach. I reluctantly
decided to declare an emergency with ATC. They wanted to vector me into the
McDermott strip. My GPS said I was 45 minutes from Boise, so I opted to
proceed there.
I was at the edge of the Paradise and Owyhee MOAs near V113 where two F15s
were maneuvering. I had asked Salt Lake Center if Boise Approach had or
could get any pilot reports of a hole through the clouds anywhere between me
and their field. I wasn't looking forward to a single engine IFR approach
through an unknown thickness of clouds in a plane that I had no single
engine experience in. They called up the F15s and asked them if they could
find a hole. Within a couple of minutes, one of the F15s called me on my
assigned frequency telling me that he was forming up on my left side. I must
say that it is pretty cool to see an F15 fairly close in formation with you.
He split off to the left and reformed on the right side to see the feathered
engine. He was amazed that the entire nacelle and that side of the
horizontal tail was covered in oil. The other F15 had flown forward to look
for a hole. The first one departed, and the second F15 appeared to lead me
to a hole he had found. I descended making very shallow turns down through
it. Thankfully the ceiling was over 5,000'.
The rest of the flight to Boise and the landing went well. I was handed off
to Boise Approach who kept me all the way through the landing. They were all
great to work with. The female controller even already knew about not
turning into the dead engine when she vectored me for a base entry.
A fire truck followed me along the taxiway until I stopped on an FBO's ramp.
When I exited the plane, he handed me a chunk of ice that he saw fall from
somewhere near the failed right engine. As I began trying to evaluate the
problem, it occurred to me that the ice probably had come off the crankcase
breather. If so, it had probably blocked venting causing a nose seal to
blow. I found a mechanic that took me in. He spent a couple of hours
cleaning the engine and looking for the problem. There was still three
quarts of oil in the crankcase, so, luckily, there was no engine damage.
When I did a runup, we could see oil coming from the vicinity of the nose
seal. You can't actually see it because it is behind the prop and hub. Of
course that was the problem as we confirmed when we removed the prop and
hub.
We got it all back together with a new nose seal late Friday night. I flew
it home to Hamilton Montana (6S5) yesterday just a few hours before a new
storm arrived.
Reflections:
This airplane (500B) handles well on one engine. The Merlyn Turbo 320
conversion's claim of a 16K' single engine service ceiling is believable.
With just me, about 100 lbs of baggage, and about 100 gallons of fuel
aboard, I could have maintained my 17,000' altitude indefinitely at about
120 KIAS. ATC was very professional and ready to devote any effort to the
problem. The F15s, while not expected, sure were nice to have around. The
single engine landing wasn't difficult. You CAN taxi with only the left
engine operating as long as you keep moving. 45-50 minutes takes a lot
longer to pass when you have one shut down. A little adrenalin occasionally
reminds you that you are still alive. Immediately shutting the engine down
prevented any damage (we looked the turbo over and cut open the oil filter
for a look see just to be sure).
Still need to learn (among other things):
I need to figure out why an engine breather tube can freeze in VMC (I was
never in the clouds at any time from take-off to landing and saw no visible
moisture. I do have the Cleveland double brake conversion which reroutes the
vent from the aluminum tube and via scat tubing down to the lower outside
edge of the well. It probably needs to have an upstresam vent slot cut
somewhere (like my Cessna Cardinal had) or perhaps rerouted into the
exhaust). I need to learn the appropriate power setting for one engine after
everything is stabilized (of course I initially went to full rich, full RPM,
and full throttle on the left engine, but a couple of cylinder CHTs got to
around 440 even with the cowl flaps open - below limits but more than I want
to see). I'll bet that I could have lowered the power some. I need to find
out where rain water can stay in the rudder trim system allowing it to
freeze at altitude (it froze again during the 1 hour flight Saturday at
15,500 from Boise to Hamilton).
The other question:
Do I log this as single engine or multi engine time?
Larry Wokral,
500B
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| Subject: | Re: Sale of My Baby |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Buddy,
My spirits fell as I read this. You are one of the very few people that I
consider the "glue" that holds the flight group together. I can't imagine
you not flying.....especially with how great you looked last fly-in and the
amount of energy you obviously put forth to get yourself in such good shape.
I will console myself with the knowledge that your beautiful 560E will find
a new home and stay with the flight group.
Whenever & wherever our paths cross, there's always an open seat in my
airplane for you and you can take control for any flights. I'd be proud to
fly with you!
Not to mention, your participation in the group is mandatory. No way are we
going to let you outta this gang!
Looking forward to seeing you at the next fly-in,
/John
----- Original Message -----
From: <buddy@cyconenterprises.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby
> --> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com
>
> Hey guys,
>
> It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce
> that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my
> developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak
> heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I
believe
> is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which
> must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my
> stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo
> and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the
flight
> group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of
what
> I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so
> I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch.
>
>
> H.W."Buddy" Windham
> President
> Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
> Excalibur Contracting, Inc.
> The Windham Companies, Inc.
> L&B Investors, LLC
>
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| Subject: | Re: Single Engine flying |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "alh1@juno.com" <alh1@juno.com>
larry, i am always interested in successful single engine flying. try that in
a cessna cardinal. before i got my commander, i had an engine failure in my bonanza.
i went right away to full power on the second engine, but nothing happened.
fortunately for me there was a road available and no injuries, but that
was it for me and one engine. glad you made it. al hoffman
Now includes pop-up blocker!
Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!
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| Subject: | Re: Single Engine flying |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Larry,
HECK of a job! Well done, and obviously a strong reinforcement of your
confidence in the Merlyn conversion & SE Ceiling.
Granted, there are other (safer) ways to get a closeup of an F-15, but it
sure is a nice feeling to know that "protecting democracy" includes breaking
off from training to provide help & much needed moral support to a fellow
aviator, albeit a GA pilot. I feel much better about my tax dollars now.
/John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Wokral" <l.wokral@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Single Engine flying
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral"
<l.wokral@ix.netcom.com>
>
> I just had an experience I thought I'd share or get some comments on.
>
> While returning to Montana at 17,500' this last Thursday, my right engine
> started loosing a little MP. Initially, I easily got it back with just a
> little push of the throttle. Within a minute or so of this, it suddenly
> dropped about 10 inches MP, and the engine started to run rough. I still
had
> oil pressure, and the JPI engine scanner didn't send any alarms. I looked
> out the right window, and saw oil all over the nose bowl. I immediately
shut
> it down and feathered the prop.
>
> So here I am VFR (on flight following) at 17,500' above a cloud deck over
> very remote northern Nevada. I got everything stabilized, but I couldn't
get
> any rudder trim. Perhaps with all the rain in Central California while I
was
> there something froze up along the trim cable. The OAT was -25C. I easily
> maintained 16,500' with just the left engine. My GPS said I was near the
> McDermott airport. I've seen it from the air many times when flying my
> Cardinal RG along this same route. It is literally in the middle of
nowhere
> with nothing around. There was at least a 2,000-5,000' thick layer of cold
> clouds between me and it, and it has no instrument approach. I reluctantly
> decided to declare an emergency with ATC. They wanted to vector me into
the
> McDermott strip. My GPS said I was 45 minutes from Boise, so I opted to
> proceed there.
>
> I was at the edge of the Paradise and Owyhee MOAs near V113 where two F15s
> were maneuvering. I had asked Salt Lake Center if Boise Approach had or
> could get any pilot reports of a hole through the clouds anywhere between
me
> and their field. I wasn't looking forward to a single engine IFR approach
> through an unknown thickness of clouds in a plane that I had no single
> engine experience in. They called up the F15s and asked them if they could
> find a hole. Within a couple of minutes, one of the F15s called me on my
> assigned frequency telling me that he was forming up on my left side. I
must
> say that it is pretty cool to see an F15 fairly close in formation with
you.
> He split off to the left and reformed on the right side to see the
feathered
> engine. He was amazed that the entire nacelle and that side of the
> horizontal tail was covered in oil. The other F15 had flown forward to
look
> for a hole. The first one departed, and the second F15 appeared to lead me
> to a hole he had found. I descended making very shallow turns down through
> it. Thankfully the ceiling was over 5,000'.
>
> The rest of the flight to Boise and the landing went well. I was handed
off
> to Boise Approach who kept me all the way through the landing. They were
all
> great to work with. The female controller even already knew about not
> turning into the dead engine when she vectored me for a base entry.
>
> A fire truck followed me along the taxiway until I stopped on an FBO's
ramp.
> When I exited the plane, he handed me a chunk of ice that he saw fall from
> somewhere near the failed right engine. As I began trying to evaluate the
> problem, it occurred to me that the ice probably had come off the
crankcase
> breather. If so, it had probably blocked venting causing a nose seal to
> blow. I found a mechanic that took me in. He spent a couple of hours
> cleaning the engine and looking for the problem. There was still three
> quarts of oil in the crankcase, so, luckily, there was no engine damage.
> When I did a runup, we could see oil coming from the vicinity of the nose
> seal. You can't actually see it because it is behind the prop and hub. Of
> course that was the problem as we confirmed when we removed the prop and
> hub.
>
> We got it all back together with a new nose seal late Friday night. I flew
> it home to Hamilton Montana (6S5) yesterday just a few hours before a new
> storm arrived.
>
> Reflections:
> This airplane (500B) handles well on one engine. The Merlyn Turbo 320
> conversion's claim of a 16K' single engine service ceiling is believable.
> With just me, about 100 lbs of baggage, and about 100 gallons of fuel
> aboard, I could have maintained my 17,000' altitude indefinitely at about
> 120 KIAS. ATC was very professional and ready to devote any effort to the
> problem. The F15s, while not expected, sure were nice to have around. The
> single engine landing wasn't difficult. You CAN taxi with only the left
> engine operating as long as you keep moving. 45-50 minutes takes a lot
> longer to pass when you have one shut down. A little adrenalin
occasionally
> reminds you that you are still alive. Immediately shutting the engine down
> prevented any damage (we looked the turbo over and cut open the oil filter
> for a look see just to be sure).
>
> Still need to learn (among other things):
> I need to figure out why an engine breather tube can freeze in VMC (I was
> never in the clouds at any time from take-off to landing and saw no
visible
> moisture. I do have the Cleveland double brake conversion which reroutes
the
> vent from the aluminum tube and via scat tubing down to the lower outside
> edge of the well. It probably needs to have an upstresam vent slot cut
> somewhere (like my Cessna Cardinal had) or perhaps rerouted into the
> exhaust). I need to learn the appropriate power setting for one engine
after
> everything is stabilized (of course I initially went to full rich, full
RPM,
> and full throttle on the left engine, but a couple of cylinder CHTs got to
> around 440 even with the cowl flaps open - below limits but more than I
want
> to see). I'll bet that I could have lowered the power some. I need to find
> out where rain water can stay in the rudder trim system allowing it to
> freeze at altitude (it froze again during the 1 hour flight Saturday at
> 15,500 from Boise to Hamilton).
>
> The other question:
> Do I log this as single engine or multi engine time?
>
> Larry Wokral,
> 500B
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sale of My Baby |
Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:25:28 -0600
--> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <Kamala@msn.com>
BW, STAY WITH US. YOUR SITUATION WILL ENVELOP US ALL AT SOME POINT. YOUR ARE
WELCOME IN MY LEFT OR RIGHT SEAT ANY TIME. MASON
----- Original Message -----
From: John Vormbaum<mailto:john@vormbaum.com>
To: commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com<mailto:john@vormbaum.com>>
Buddy,
My spirits fell as I read this. You are one of the very few people that I
consider the "glue" that holds the flight group together. I can't imagine
you not flying.....especially with how great you looked last fly-in and the
amount of energy you obviously put forth to get yourself in such good shape.
I will console myself with the knowledge that your beautiful 560E will find
a new home and stay with the flight group.
Whenever & wherever our paths cross, there's always an open seat in my
airplane for you and you can take control for any flights. I'd be proud to
fly with you!
Not to mention, your participation in the group is mandatory. No way are we
going to let you outta this gang!
Looking forward to seeing you at the next fly-in,
/John
----- Original Message -----
From: <buddy@cyconenterprises.com<mailto:buddy@cyconenterprises.com>>
To: <commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby
> --> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com<mailto:buddy@cyconenterprises.com>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce
> that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my
> developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak
> heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I
believe
> is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which
> must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my
> stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo
> and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the
flight
> group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of
what
> I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so
> I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch.
>
>
> H.W."Buddy" Windham
> President
> Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
> Excalibur Contracting, Inc.
> The Windham Companies, Inc.
> L&B Investors, LLC
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Same goes for me, Mason's plane is much nicer and it will be two or three
months before I can get mine back in the air but the invitation is open.
Jim Addington
N444BD
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MASON
CHEVAILLIER
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby
--> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <Kamala@msn.com>
BW, STAY WITH US. YOUR SITUATION WILL ENVELOP US ALL AT SOME POINT. YOUR
ARE WELCOME IN MY LEFT OR RIGHT SEAT ANY TIME. MASON
----- Original Message -----
From: John Vormbaum<mailto:john@vormbaum.com>
To: commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum"
<john@vormbaum.com<mailto:john@vormbaum.com>>
Buddy,
My spirits fell as I read this. You are one of the very few people that I
consider the "glue" that holds the flight group together. I can't imagine
you not flying.....especially with how great you looked last fly-in and
the
amount of energy you obviously put forth to get yourself in such good
shape.
I will console myself with the knowledge that your beautiful 560E will
find
a new home and stay with the flight group.
Whenever & wherever our paths cross, there's always an open seat in my
airplane for you and you can take control for any flights. I'd be proud to
fly with you!
Not to mention, your participation in the group is mandatory. No way are
we
going to let you outta this gang!
Looking forward to seeing you at the next fly-in,
/John
----- Original Message -----
From: <buddy@cyconenterprises.com<mailto:buddy@cyconenterprises.com>>
To: <commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby
> --> Commander-List message posted by:
buddy@cyconenterprises.com<mailto:buddy@cyconenterprises.com>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce
> that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to
my
> developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak
> heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I
believe
> is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter
which
> must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my
> stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to
Jimbo
> and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the
flight
> group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of
what
> I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up
so
> I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch.
>
>
> H.W."Buddy" Windham
> President
> Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
> Excalibur Contracting, Inc.
> The Windham Companies, Inc.
> L&B Investors, LLC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Single Engine flying |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Great outcome!
I switched to ME's after I had a Cherokee's engine fail about 100' off the
runway during a night flight (which never happened after this as you might
expect). Fortunatlely, the runway was more than a mile long so I could just
settle back and land. There is still a debate about SE and ME safety, some
soap-boxing the myth that a ME engine failure oftentimes merely drag you to
the scene of the accident. But nothing can yield a better return on your
investment than an experience like Larry had. There is really no excuse for
putting yourself or your family into a SE and fly anywhere outside gliding
distance of a good landing spot, which usually means nowhere. That goes for
the multi-million dollar single engine turbines too, in my opinion. Still
one engine, one prop, and one point of failure. And when things go silent
after having parted with 2 or 3 million dollars, you would wish you had
another noise-maker on a wing that you could write about after you landed
safely.
My first twin, a Twin Comanche, lost power on the left engine on takeoff one
day. Knowing to do that when I was lightly loaded and alone on board, made
it a non-event circling and landing again. My Commander, however, never
pulled a trick like that on me.
Thanks for sharing, Larry, the boys on our payroll was a definite bonus!
This rendition of your experience is a keeper.
Nico.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Wokral" <l.wokral@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Single Engine flying
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral"
<l.wokral@ix.netcom.com>
>
> I just had an experience I thought I'd share or get some comments on.
>
> While returning to Montana at 17,500' this last Thursday, my right engine
> started loosing a little MP. Initially, I easily got it back with just a
> little push of the throttle. Within a minute or so of this, it suddenly
> dropped about 10 inches MP, and the engine started to run rough. I still
had
> oil pressure, and the JPI engine scanner didn't send any alarms. I looked
> out the right window, and saw oil all over the nose bowl. I immediately
shut
> it down and feathered the prop.
>
> So here I am VFR (on flight following) at 17,500' above a cloud deck over
> very remote northern Nevada. I got everything stabilized, but I couldn't
get
> any rudder trim. Perhaps with all the rain in Central California while I
was
> there something froze up along the trim cable. The OAT was -25C. I easily
> maintained 16,500' with just the left engine. My GPS said I was near the
> McDermott airport. I've seen it from the air many times when flying my
> Cardinal RG along this same route. It is literally in the middle of
nowhere
> with nothing around. There was at least a 2,000-5,000' thick layer of cold
> clouds between me and it, and it has no instrument approach. I reluctantly
> decided to declare an emergency with ATC. They wanted to vector me into
the
> McDermott strip. My GPS said I was 45 minutes from Boise, so I opted to
> proceed there.
>
> I was at the edge of the Paradise and Owyhee MOAs near V113 where two F15s
> were maneuvering. I had asked Salt Lake Center if Boise Approach had or
> could get any pilot reports of a hole through the clouds anywhere between
me
> and their field. I wasn't looking forward to a single engine IFR approach
> through an unknown thickness of clouds in a plane that I had no single
> engine experience in. They called up the F15s and asked them if they could
> find a hole. Within a couple of minutes, one of the F15s called me on my
> assigned frequency telling me that he was forming up on my left side. I
must
> say that it is pretty cool to see an F15 fairly close in formation with
you.
> He split off to the left and reformed on the right side to see the
feathered
> engine. He was amazed that the entire nacelle and that side of the
> horizontal tail was covered in oil. The other F15 had flown forward to
look
> for a hole. The first one departed, and the second F15 appeared to lead me
> to a hole he had found. I descended making very shallow turns down through
> it. Thankfully the ceiling was over 5,000'.
>
> The rest of the flight to Boise and the landing went well. I was handed
off
> to Boise Approach who kept me all the way through the landing. They were
all
> great to work with. The female controller even already knew about not
> turning into the dead engine when she vectored me for a base entry.
>
> A fire truck followed me along the taxiway until I stopped on an FBO's
ramp.
> When I exited the plane, he handed me a chunk of ice that he saw fall from
> somewhere near the failed right engine. As I began trying to evaluate the
> problem, it occurred to me that the ice probably had come off the
crankcase
> breather. If so, it had probably blocked venting causing a nose seal to
> blow. I found a mechanic that took me in. He spent a couple of hours
> cleaning the engine and looking for the problem. There was still three
> quarts of oil in the crankcase, so, luckily, there was no engine damage.
> When I did a runup, we could see oil coming from the vicinity of the nose
> seal. You can't actually see it because it is behind the prop and hub. Of
> course that was the problem as we confirmed when we removed the prop and
> hub.
>
> We got it all back together with a new nose seal late Friday night. I flew
> it home to Hamilton Montana (6S5) yesterday just a few hours before a new
> storm arrived.
>
> Reflections:
> This airplane (500B) handles well on one engine. The Merlyn Turbo 320
> conversion's claim of a 16K' single engine service ceiling is believable.
> With just me, about 100 lbs of baggage, and about 100 gallons of fuel
> aboard, I could have maintained my 17,000' altitude indefinitely at about
> 120 KIAS. ATC was very professional and ready to devote any effort to the
> problem. The F15s, while not expected, sure were nice to have around. The
> single engine landing wasn't difficult. You CAN taxi with only the left
> engine operating as long as you keep moving. 45-50 minutes takes a lot
> longer to pass when you have one shut down. A little adrenalin
occasionally
> reminds you that you are still alive. Immediately shutting the engine down
> prevented any damage (we looked the turbo over and cut open the oil filter
> for a look see just to be sure).
>
> Still need to learn (among other things):
> I need to figure out why an engine breather tube can freeze in VMC (I was
> never in the clouds at any time from take-off to landing and saw no
visible
> moisture. I do have the Cleveland double brake conversion which reroutes
the
> vent from the aluminum tube and via scat tubing down to the lower outside
> edge of the well. It probably needs to have an upstresam vent slot cut
> somewhere (like my Cessna Cardinal had) or perhaps rerouted into the
> exhaust). I need to learn the appropriate power setting for one engine
after
> everything is stabilized (of course I initially went to full rich, full
RPM,
> and full throttle on the left engine, but a couple of cylinder CHTs got to
> around 440 even with the cowl flaps open - below limits but more than I
want
> to see). I'll bet that I could have lowered the power some. I need to find
> out where rain water can stay in the rudder trim system allowing it to
> freeze at altitude (it froze again during the 1 hour flight Saturday at
> 15,500 from Boise to Hamilton).
>
> The other question:
> Do I log this as single engine or multi engine time?
>
> Larry Wokral,
> 500B
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sale of My Baby |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Hi Buddy,
Exquisite Aero Commander.
Sorry to hear that moment we all dread has arrived for you.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: <buddy@cyconenterprises.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby
> --> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com
>
> Hey guys,
>
> It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce
> that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my
> developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak
> heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I
believe
> is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which
> must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my
> stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo
> and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the
flight
> group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of
what
> I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so
> I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch.
>
>
> H.W."Buddy" Windham
> President
> Cycon Enterprises, Inc.
> Excalibur Contracting, Inc.
> The Windham Companies, Inc.
> L&B Investors, LLC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Single Engine flying |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Your Twin Comanche would not be able to do that at GW, a Commander can!
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Single Engine flying
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css"
<nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>
>
>My first twin, a Twin Comanche, lost power on the left engine on takeoff
one
>day. Knowing to do that when I was lightly loaded and alone on board, made
>it a non-event circling and landing again. My Commander, however, never
>pulled a trick like that on me.
>
>
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