---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/27/05: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:03 AM - HAPPY EASTER (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 2. 09:15 AM - Re: HAPPY EASTER (Frits Abbing) 3. 09:30 AM - Re: HAPPY EASTER (RRamm52@cs.com) 4. 10:06 AM - Re: HAPPY EASTER (Jim Addington) 5. 02:59 PM - Re: HAPPY EASTER (nico css) 6. 03:42 PM - Sale of My Baby (buddy@cyconenterprises.com) 7. 03:55 PM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/26/05 (joe@taccapitalgroup.com) 8. 04:05 PM - Single Engine flying (Larry Wokral) 9. 04:15 PM - Re: Sale of My Baby (John Vormbaum) 10. 04:17 PM - Re: Single Engine flying (alh1@juno.com) 11. 04:29 PM - Re: Single Engine flying (John Vormbaum) 12. 05:24 PM - Re: Sale of My Baby (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 13. 05:45 PM - Re: Sale of My Baby (Jim Addington) 14. 07:31 PM - Re: Single Engine flying (nico css) 15. 07:44 PM - Re: Sale of My Baby (nico css) 16. 11:31 PM - Re: Single Engine flying (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:15 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. I just want to wish all of you a Happy Easter! Remember, there is no such thing as the Easter bunny. We celebrate this day a risen savior, Jesus Christ. He died and was resurrect, today, so that you and I can have eternal life basking in the glory of our almighty God, the creator of the universe. His sacrifice was our gain. Eternal life WOW!! Do you know him?? Are you sure of your salvation?? Where will you spent eternity?? I hope it is with me in heaven. May God bless all of you this wonderful day Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group PS I sure hope there are Aero Commander in heaven!! With fuel tanks that never go dry!! ;-) jb ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:12 AM PST US From: Frits Abbing Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER --> Commander-List message posted by: Frits Abbing There is no fuel in heaven, they all fly on air. And there is no FAA also, so ......!!! Happy Easter. --- YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: > YOURTCFG@aol.com > > HI KIDS. > > I just want to wish all of you a Happy > Easter! Remember, there is > no such thing as the Easter bunny. We celebrate > this day a risen savior, > Jesus Christ. He died and was resurrect, today, so > that you and I can have > eternal life basking in the glory of our almighty > God, the creator of the > universe. His sacrifice was our gain. Eternal > life WOW!! > Do you know him?? Are you sure of your > salvation?? Where will you > spent eternity?? I hope it is with me in heaven. > May God bless all of you this > wonderful day > > Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group > > PS I sure hope there are Aero Commander in heaven!! > With fuel tanks that > never go dry!! ;-) jb > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:32 AM PST US From: RRamm52@cs.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com Amen, Jim Happy Easter, All. Rob Munro ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:45 AM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" Throw me in that briar patch too, no FAA and no fuel problems, really sounds good. Jim Addington N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. I just want to wish all of you a Happy Easter! Remember, there is no such thing as the Easter bunny. We celebrate this day a risen savior, Jesus Christ. He died and was resurrect, today, so that you and I can have eternal life basking in the glory of our almighty God, the creator of the universe. His sacrifice was our gain. Eternal life WOW!! Do you know him?? Are you sure of your salvation?? Where will you spent eternity?? I hope it is with me in heaven. May God bless all of you this wonderful day Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group PS I sure hope there are Aero Commander in heaven!! With fuel tanks that never go dry!! ;-) jb ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:10 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" Thanks for your testimonies, guys. Not only no fuel required, but Aero Commanders that can traverse the stars. Praise God from whom all blessings flow. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" > > Throw me in that briar patch too, no FAA and no fuel problems, really sounds > good. > > Jim Addington > N444BD > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > YOURTCFG@aol.com > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: HAPPY EASTER > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > HI KIDS. > > I just want to wish all of you a Happy Easter! Remember, there is > no such thing as the Easter bunny. We celebrate this day a risen savior, > Jesus Christ. He died and was resurrect, today, so that you and I can have > eternal life basking in the glory of our almighty God, the creator of the > universe. His sacrifice was our gain. Eternal life WOW!! > Do you know him?? Are you sure of your salvation?? Where will you > spent eternity?? I hope it is with me in heaven. May God bless all of you > this > wonderful day > > Jim Metzger, Director, Twin Commander Flight Group > > PS I sure hope there are Aero Commander in heaven!! With fuel tanks that > never go dry!! ;-) jb > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:30 PM PST US From: buddy@cyconenterprises.com Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby --> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com Hey guys, It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I believe is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the flight group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of what I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch. H.W."Buddy" Windham President Cycon Enterprises, Inc. Excalibur Contracting, Inc. The Windham Companies, Inc. L&B Investors, LLC ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:55:24 PM PST US From: joe@taccapitalgroup.com Subject: Commander-List: RE: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/26/05 --> Commander-List message posted by: joe@taccapitalgroup.com > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/26/05 > From: Commander-List Digest Server > > Date: Sat, March 26, 2005 11:55 pm > To: Commander-List Digest List > > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Commander-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list/Digest.Commander-List.2005-03-26.html > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list/Digest.Commander-List.2005-03-26.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > Commander-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 03/26/05: 1 > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 04:46 AM - Fw: seajean flying boat conversion (Avtec2) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:46:24 AM PST US > From: "Avtec2" > Subject: Commander-List: Fw: seajean flying boat conversion > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Avtec2" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jean > Subject: seajean flying boat conversion > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:56 PM PST US From: "Larry Wokral" Subject: Commander-List: Single Engine flying --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral" I just had an experience I thought I'd share or get some comments on. While returning to Montana at 17,500' this last Thursday, my right engine started loosing a little MP. Initially, I easily got it back with just a little push of the throttle. Within a minute or so of this, it suddenly dropped about 10 inches MP, and the engine started to run rough. I still had oil pressure, and the JPI engine scanner didn't send any alarms. I looked out the right window, and saw oil all over the nose bowl. I immediately shut it down and feathered the prop. So here I am VFR (on flight following) at 17,500' above a cloud deck over very remote northern Nevada. I got everything stabilized, but I couldn't get any rudder trim. Perhaps with all the rain in Central California while I was there something froze up along the trim cable. The OAT was -25C. I easily maintained 16,500' with just the left engine. My GPS said I was near the McDermott airport. I've seen it from the air many times when flying my Cardinal RG along this same route. It is literally in the middle of nowhere with nothing around. There was at least a 2,000-5,000' thick layer of cold clouds between me and it, and it has no instrument approach. I reluctantly decided to declare an emergency with ATC. They wanted to vector me into the McDermott strip. My GPS said I was 45 minutes from Boise, so I opted to proceed there. I was at the edge of the Paradise and Owyhee MOAs near V113 where two F15s were maneuvering. I had asked Salt Lake Center if Boise Approach had or could get any pilot reports of a hole through the clouds anywhere between me and their field. I wasn't looking forward to a single engine IFR approach through an unknown thickness of clouds in a plane that I had no single engine experience in. They called up the F15s and asked them if they could find a hole. Within a couple of minutes, one of the F15s called me on my assigned frequency telling me that he was forming up on my left side. I must say that it is pretty cool to see an F15 fairly close in formation with you. He split off to the left and reformed on the right side to see the feathered engine. He was amazed that the entire nacelle and that side of the horizontal tail was covered in oil. The other F15 had flown forward to look for a hole. The first one departed, and the second F15 appeared to lead me to a hole he had found. I descended making very shallow turns down through it. Thankfully the ceiling was over 5,000'. The rest of the flight to Boise and the landing went well. I was handed off to Boise Approach who kept me all the way through the landing. They were all great to work with. The female controller even already knew about not turning into the dead engine when she vectored me for a base entry. A fire truck followed me along the taxiway until I stopped on an FBO's ramp. When I exited the plane, he handed me a chunk of ice that he saw fall from somewhere near the failed right engine. As I began trying to evaluate the problem, it occurred to me that the ice probably had come off the crankcase breather. If so, it had probably blocked venting causing a nose seal to blow. I found a mechanic that took me in. He spent a couple of hours cleaning the engine and looking for the problem. There was still three quarts of oil in the crankcase, so, luckily, there was no engine damage. When I did a runup, we could see oil coming from the vicinity of the nose seal. You can't actually see it because it is behind the prop and hub. Of course that was the problem as we confirmed when we removed the prop and hub. We got it all back together with a new nose seal late Friday night. I flew it home to Hamilton Montana (6S5) yesterday just a few hours before a new storm arrived. Reflections: This airplane (500B) handles well on one engine. The Merlyn Turbo 320 conversion's claim of a 16K' single engine service ceiling is believable. With just me, about 100 lbs of baggage, and about 100 gallons of fuel aboard, I could have maintained my 17,000' altitude indefinitely at about 120 KIAS. ATC was very professional and ready to devote any effort to the problem. The F15s, while not expected, sure were nice to have around. The single engine landing wasn't difficult. You CAN taxi with only the left engine operating as long as you keep moving. 45-50 minutes takes a lot longer to pass when you have one shut down. A little adrenalin occasionally reminds you that you are still alive. Immediately shutting the engine down prevented any damage (we looked the turbo over and cut open the oil filter for a look see just to be sure). Still need to learn (among other things): I need to figure out why an engine breather tube can freeze in VMC (I was never in the clouds at any time from take-off to landing and saw no visible moisture. I do have the Cleveland double brake conversion which reroutes the vent from the aluminum tube and via scat tubing down to the lower outside edge of the well. It probably needs to have an upstresam vent slot cut somewhere (like my Cessna Cardinal had) or perhaps rerouted into the exhaust). I need to learn the appropriate power setting for one engine after everything is stabilized (of course I initially went to full rich, full RPM, and full throttle on the left engine, but a couple of cylinder CHTs got to around 440 even with the cowl flaps open - below limits but more than I want to see). I'll bet that I could have lowered the power some. I need to find out where rain water can stay in the rudder trim system allowing it to freeze at altitude (it froze again during the 1 hour flight Saturday at 15,500 from Boise to Hamilton). The other question: Do I log this as single engine or multi engine time? Larry Wokral, 500B ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:00 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Buddy, My spirits fell as I read this. You are one of the very few people that I consider the "glue" that holds the flight group together. I can't imagine you not flying.....especially with how great you looked last fly-in and the amount of energy you obviously put forth to get yourself in such good shape. I will console myself with the knowledge that your beautiful 560E will find a new home and stay with the flight group. Whenever & wherever our paths cross, there's always an open seat in my airplane for you and you can take control for any flights. I'd be proud to fly with you! Not to mention, your participation in the group is mandatory. No way are we going to let you outta this gang! Looking forward to seeing you at the next fly-in, /John ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby > --> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com > > Hey guys, > > It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce > that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my > developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak > heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I believe > is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which > must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my > stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo > and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the flight > group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of what > I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so > I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch. > > > H.W."Buddy" Windham > President > Cycon Enterprises, Inc. > Excalibur Contracting, Inc. > The Windham Companies, Inc. > L&B Investors, LLC > > > __________ NOD32 1.1038 (20050326) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1038 (20050326) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:56 PM PST US From: "alh1@juno.com" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Single Engine flying --> Commander-List message posted by: "alh1@juno.com" larry, i am always interested in successful single engine flying. try that in a cessna cardinal. before i got my commander, i had an engine failure in my bonanza. i went right away to full power on the second engine, but nothing happened. fortunately for me there was a road available and no injuries, but that was it for me and one engine. glad you made it. al hoffman Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:29:44 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Single Engine flying --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Larry, HECK of a job! Well done, and obviously a strong reinforcement of your confidence in the Merlyn conversion & SE Ceiling. Granted, there are other (safer) ways to get a closeup of an F-15, but it sure is a nice feeling to know that "protecting democracy" includes breaking off from training to provide help & much needed moral support to a fellow aviator, albeit a GA pilot. I feel much better about my tax dollars now. /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Wokral" Subject: Commander-List: Single Engine flying > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral" > > I just had an experience I thought I'd share or get some comments on. > > While returning to Montana at 17,500' this last Thursday, my right engine > started loosing a little MP. Initially, I easily got it back with just a > little push of the throttle. Within a minute or so of this, it suddenly > dropped about 10 inches MP, and the engine started to run rough. I still had > oil pressure, and the JPI engine scanner didn't send any alarms. I looked > out the right window, and saw oil all over the nose bowl. I immediately shut > it down and feathered the prop. > > So here I am VFR (on flight following) at 17,500' above a cloud deck over > very remote northern Nevada. I got everything stabilized, but I couldn't get > any rudder trim. Perhaps with all the rain in Central California while I was > there something froze up along the trim cable. The OAT was -25C. I easily > maintained 16,500' with just the left engine. My GPS said I was near the > McDermott airport. I've seen it from the air many times when flying my > Cardinal RG along this same route. It is literally in the middle of nowhere > with nothing around. There was at least a 2,000-5,000' thick layer of cold > clouds between me and it, and it has no instrument approach. I reluctantly > decided to declare an emergency with ATC. They wanted to vector me into the > McDermott strip. My GPS said I was 45 minutes from Boise, so I opted to > proceed there. > > I was at the edge of the Paradise and Owyhee MOAs near V113 where two F15s > were maneuvering. I had asked Salt Lake Center if Boise Approach had or > could get any pilot reports of a hole through the clouds anywhere between me > and their field. I wasn't looking forward to a single engine IFR approach > through an unknown thickness of clouds in a plane that I had no single > engine experience in. They called up the F15s and asked them if they could > find a hole. Within a couple of minutes, one of the F15s called me on my > assigned frequency telling me that he was forming up on my left side. I must > say that it is pretty cool to see an F15 fairly close in formation with you. > He split off to the left and reformed on the right side to see the feathered > engine. He was amazed that the entire nacelle and that side of the > horizontal tail was covered in oil. The other F15 had flown forward to look > for a hole. The first one departed, and the second F15 appeared to lead me > to a hole he had found. I descended making very shallow turns down through > it. Thankfully the ceiling was over 5,000'. > > The rest of the flight to Boise and the landing went well. I was handed off > to Boise Approach who kept me all the way through the landing. They were all > great to work with. The female controller even already knew about not > turning into the dead engine when she vectored me for a base entry. > > A fire truck followed me along the taxiway until I stopped on an FBO's ramp. > When I exited the plane, he handed me a chunk of ice that he saw fall from > somewhere near the failed right engine. As I began trying to evaluate the > problem, it occurred to me that the ice probably had come off the crankcase > breather. If so, it had probably blocked venting causing a nose seal to > blow. I found a mechanic that took me in. He spent a couple of hours > cleaning the engine and looking for the problem. There was still three > quarts of oil in the crankcase, so, luckily, there was no engine damage. > When I did a runup, we could see oil coming from the vicinity of the nose > seal. You can't actually see it because it is behind the prop and hub. Of > course that was the problem as we confirmed when we removed the prop and > hub. > > We got it all back together with a new nose seal late Friday night. I flew > it home to Hamilton Montana (6S5) yesterday just a few hours before a new > storm arrived. > > Reflections: > This airplane (500B) handles well on one engine. The Merlyn Turbo 320 > conversion's claim of a 16K' single engine service ceiling is believable. > With just me, about 100 lbs of baggage, and about 100 gallons of fuel > aboard, I could have maintained my 17,000' altitude indefinitely at about > 120 KIAS. ATC was very professional and ready to devote any effort to the > problem. The F15s, while not expected, sure were nice to have around. The > single engine landing wasn't difficult. You CAN taxi with only the left > engine operating as long as you keep moving. 45-50 minutes takes a lot > longer to pass when you have one shut down. A little adrenalin occasionally > reminds you that you are still alive. Immediately shutting the engine down > prevented any damage (we looked the turbo over and cut open the oil filter > for a look see just to be sure). > > Still need to learn (among other things): > I need to figure out why an engine breather tube can freeze in VMC (I was > never in the clouds at any time from take-off to landing and saw no visible > moisture. I do have the Cleveland double brake conversion which reroutes the > vent from the aluminum tube and via scat tubing down to the lower outside > edge of the well. It probably needs to have an upstresam vent slot cut > somewhere (like my Cessna Cardinal had) or perhaps rerouted into the > exhaust). I need to learn the appropriate power setting for one engine after > everything is stabilized (of course I initially went to full rich, full RPM, > and full throttle on the left engine, but a couple of cylinder CHTs got to > around 440 even with the cowl flaps open - below limits but more than I want > to see). I'll bet that I could have lowered the power some. I need to find > out where rain water can stay in the rudder trim system allowing it to > freeze at altitude (it froze again during the 1 hour flight Saturday at > 15,500 from Boise to Hamilton). > > The other question: > Do I log this as single engine or multi engine time? > > Larry Wokral, > 500B > > > __________ NOD32 1.1038 (20050326) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1038 (20050326) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:41 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:25:28 -0600 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" BW, STAY WITH US. YOUR SITUATION WILL ENVELOP US ALL AT SOME POINT. YOUR ARE WELCOME IN MY LEFT OR RIGHT SEAT ANY TIME. MASON ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vormbaum To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > Buddy, My spirits fell as I read this. You are one of the very few people that I consider the "glue" that holds the flight group together. I can't imagine you not flying.....especially with how great you looked last fly-in and the amount of energy you obviously put forth to get yourself in such good shape. I will console myself with the knowledge that your beautiful 560E will find a new home and stay with the flight group. Whenever & wherever our paths cross, there's always an open seat in my airplane for you and you can take control for any flights. I'd be proud to fly with you! Not to mention, your participation in the group is mandatory. No way are we going to let you outta this gang! Looking forward to seeing you at the next fly-in, /John ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby > --> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com > > Hey guys, > > It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce > that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my > developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak > heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I believe > is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which > must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my > stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo > and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the flight > group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of what > I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so > I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch. > > > H.W."Buddy" Windham > President > Cycon Enterprises, Inc. > Excalibur Contracting, Inc. > The Windham Companies, Inc. > L&B Investors, LLC > > > __________ NOD32 1.1038 (20050326) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1038 (20050326) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:45:31 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" Same goes for me, Mason's plane is much nicer and it will be two or three months before I can get mine back in the air but the invitation is open. Jim Addington N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MASON CHEVAILLIER Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" BW, STAY WITH US. YOUR SITUATION WILL ENVELOP US ALL AT SOME POINT. YOUR ARE WELCOME IN MY LEFT OR RIGHT SEAT ANY TIME. MASON ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vormbaum To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > Buddy, My spirits fell as I read this. You are one of the very few people that I consider the "glue" that holds the flight group together. I can't imagine you not flying.....especially with how great you looked last fly-in and the amount of energy you obviously put forth to get yourself in such good shape. I will console myself with the knowledge that your beautiful 560E will find a new home and stay with the flight group. Whenever & wherever our paths cross, there's always an open seat in my airplane for you and you can take control for any flights. I'd be proud to fly with you! Not to mention, your participation in the group is mandatory. No way are we going to let you outta this gang! Looking forward to seeing you at the next fly-in, /John ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby > --> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com > > Hey guys, > > It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce > that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my > developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak > heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I believe > is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which > must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my > stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo > and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the flight > group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of what > I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so > I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch. > > > H.W."Buddy" Windham > President > Cycon Enterprises, Inc. > Excalibur Contracting, Inc. > The Windham Companies, Inc. > L&B Investors, LLC > > > __________ NOD32 1.1038 (20050326) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1038 (20050326) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:11 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Single Engine flying --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" Great outcome! I switched to ME's after I had a Cherokee's engine fail about 100' off the runway during a night flight (which never happened after this as you might expect). Fortunatlely, the runway was more than a mile long so I could just settle back and land. There is still a debate about SE and ME safety, some soap-boxing the myth that a ME engine failure oftentimes merely drag you to the scene of the accident. But nothing can yield a better return on your investment than an experience like Larry had. There is really no excuse for putting yourself or your family into a SE and fly anywhere outside gliding distance of a good landing spot, which usually means nowhere. That goes for the multi-million dollar single engine turbines too, in my opinion. Still one engine, one prop, and one point of failure. And when things go silent after having parted with 2 or 3 million dollars, you would wish you had another noise-maker on a wing that you could write about after you landed safely. My first twin, a Twin Comanche, lost power on the left engine on takeoff one day. Knowing to do that when I was lightly loaded and alone on board, made it a non-event circling and landing again. My Commander, however, never pulled a trick like that on me. Thanks for sharing, Larry, the boys on our payroll was a definite bonus! This rendition of your experience is a keeper. Nico. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Wokral" Subject: Commander-List: Single Engine flying > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral" > > I just had an experience I thought I'd share or get some comments on. > > While returning to Montana at 17,500' this last Thursday, my right engine > started loosing a little MP. Initially, I easily got it back with just a > little push of the throttle. Within a minute or so of this, it suddenly > dropped about 10 inches MP, and the engine started to run rough. I still had > oil pressure, and the JPI engine scanner didn't send any alarms. I looked > out the right window, and saw oil all over the nose bowl. I immediately shut > it down and feathered the prop. > > So here I am VFR (on flight following) at 17,500' above a cloud deck over > very remote northern Nevada. I got everything stabilized, but I couldn't get > any rudder trim. Perhaps with all the rain in Central California while I was > there something froze up along the trim cable. The OAT was -25C. I easily > maintained 16,500' with just the left engine. My GPS said I was near the > McDermott airport. I've seen it from the air many times when flying my > Cardinal RG along this same route. It is literally in the middle of nowhere > with nothing around. There was at least a 2,000-5,000' thick layer of cold > clouds between me and it, and it has no instrument approach. I reluctantly > decided to declare an emergency with ATC. They wanted to vector me into the > McDermott strip. My GPS said I was 45 minutes from Boise, so I opted to > proceed there. > > I was at the edge of the Paradise and Owyhee MOAs near V113 where two F15s > were maneuvering. I had asked Salt Lake Center if Boise Approach had or > could get any pilot reports of a hole through the clouds anywhere between me > and their field. I wasn't looking forward to a single engine IFR approach > through an unknown thickness of clouds in a plane that I had no single > engine experience in. They called up the F15s and asked them if they could > find a hole. Within a couple of minutes, one of the F15s called me on my > assigned frequency telling me that he was forming up on my left side. I must > say that it is pretty cool to see an F15 fairly close in formation with you. > He split off to the left and reformed on the right side to see the feathered > engine. He was amazed that the entire nacelle and that side of the > horizontal tail was covered in oil. The other F15 had flown forward to look > for a hole. The first one departed, and the second F15 appeared to lead me > to a hole he had found. I descended making very shallow turns down through > it. Thankfully the ceiling was over 5,000'. > > The rest of the flight to Boise and the landing went well. I was handed off > to Boise Approach who kept me all the way through the landing. They were all > great to work with. The female controller even already knew about not > turning into the dead engine when she vectored me for a base entry. > > A fire truck followed me along the taxiway until I stopped on an FBO's ramp. > When I exited the plane, he handed me a chunk of ice that he saw fall from > somewhere near the failed right engine. As I began trying to evaluate the > problem, it occurred to me that the ice probably had come off the crankcase > breather. If so, it had probably blocked venting causing a nose seal to > blow. I found a mechanic that took me in. He spent a couple of hours > cleaning the engine and looking for the problem. There was still three > quarts of oil in the crankcase, so, luckily, there was no engine damage. > When I did a runup, we could see oil coming from the vicinity of the nose > seal. You can't actually see it because it is behind the prop and hub. Of > course that was the problem as we confirmed when we removed the prop and > hub. > > We got it all back together with a new nose seal late Friday night. I flew > it home to Hamilton Montana (6S5) yesterday just a few hours before a new > storm arrived. > > Reflections: > This airplane (500B) handles well on one engine. The Merlyn Turbo 320 > conversion's claim of a 16K' single engine service ceiling is believable. > With just me, about 100 lbs of baggage, and about 100 gallons of fuel > aboard, I could have maintained my 17,000' altitude indefinitely at about > 120 KIAS. ATC was very professional and ready to devote any effort to the > problem. The F15s, while not expected, sure were nice to have around. The > single engine landing wasn't difficult. You CAN taxi with only the left > engine operating as long as you keep moving. 45-50 minutes takes a lot > longer to pass when you have one shut down. A little adrenalin occasionally > reminds you that you are still alive. Immediately shutting the engine down > prevented any damage (we looked the turbo over and cut open the oil filter > for a look see just to be sure). > > Still need to learn (among other things): > I need to figure out why an engine breather tube can freeze in VMC (I was > never in the clouds at any time from take-off to landing and saw no visible > moisture. I do have the Cleveland double brake conversion which reroutes the > vent from the aluminum tube and via scat tubing down to the lower outside > edge of the well. It probably needs to have an upstresam vent slot cut > somewhere (like my Cessna Cardinal had) or perhaps rerouted into the > exhaust). I need to learn the appropriate power setting for one engine after > everything is stabilized (of course I initially went to full rich, full RPM, > and full throttle on the left engine, but a couple of cylinder CHTs got to > around 440 even with the cowl flaps open - below limits but more than I want > to see). I'll bet that I could have lowered the power some. I need to find > out where rain water can stay in the rudder trim system allowing it to > freeze at altitude (it froze again during the 1 hour flight Saturday at > 15,500 from Boise to Hamilton). > > The other question: > Do I log this as single engine or multi engine time? > > Larry Wokral, > 500B > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:44:39 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" Hi Buddy, Exquisite Aero Commander. Sorry to hear that moment we all dread has arrived for you. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: Sale of My Baby > --> Commander-List message posted by: buddy@cyconenterprises.com > > Hey guys, > > It is with a very heavy heart that I must announce > that the FAA has decided that I should give them back my medical due to my > developing what is known as idiopathic cardiomyopathy, in short a weak > heart. What this means is that I must sell my toys. I have what I believe > is the nicest 560e flying today. I also have an Enstrom helicopter which > must go. Anyways if anyone would like to see the spec's and pic's of my > stuff go to cyconenterprises.com and take a peak. I have spoken to Jimbo > and explained my sad circumstances. I am planning on staying in the flight > group and continuing supporting in what ever way I can the tradition of what > I feel is the best aircraft every built. Well I'm begining to tear up so > I'll say bye for now. Stay in touch. > > > H.W."Buddy" Windham > President > Cycon Enterprises, Inc. > Excalibur Contracting, Inc. > The Windham Companies, Inc. > L&B Investors, LLC > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:26 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Single Engine flying --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Your Twin Comanche would not be able to do that at GW, a Commander can! Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Single Engine flying > --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > >My first twin, a Twin Comanche, lost power on the left engine on takeoff one >day. Knowing to do that when I was lightly loaded and alone on board, made >it a non-event circling and landing again. My Commander, however, never >pulled a trick like that on me. > >