---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/29/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:46 AM - Re: Frozen Rudder Trim (Barry Collman) 2. 07:28 AM - Frozen Rudder Trim (Larry Wokral) 3. 08:13 AM - Re: Frozen Rudder Trim (mike floyd) 4. 01:23 PM - Re: Frozen Rudder Trim (Bill Bow) 5. 01:28 PM - Re: Frozen Rudder Trim (Barry Collman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:59 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Crikey! If you lived in England, you'd be at the airport 24/7 with arm ache and wet feet!! Barry C. (UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim | --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" | | Hey Larry, just a thought, | | After every rainstorm I have my girl do the "Commander Squat", i.e. I hang | from the tail (I weigh a considerable amount...but hey, it's in proportion | to my height!) to pull the tail down to the ground, then sit on it for a few | minutes while the rainwater drains out of the fuselage. Then I let the | nosewheel back down to the ground and wait a few more minutes while the | remainder drains. If it's been a bad storm, I'll repeat until nothing more | drips out of the drain holes on the bottom. | | Then I fly the cr*p out of her to get that airframe COMPLETELY dry. Moisture | is the enemy of metal....must do my part to preserve the airframe :-). | | /J | | PS: The airframe is easier to tip with 2 people, and easier still with full | tanks. | | | | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | | -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:30 AM PST US From: "Larry Wokral" Subject: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral" John, I just did this for the first time while I was in Stockton to wax the tail. I was surprised how easily it "squatted." I never thought about doing it after a rain storm to avoid the rudder trim from freezing, but it makes since. Larry >After every rainstorm I have my girl do the "Commander Squat", i.e. I hang from the tail (I weigh a considerable amount...but hey, it's in proportion to my height!) to pull the tail down to the ground, then sit on it for a few minutes while the rainwater drains out of the fuselage. Then I let the nosewheel back down to the ground and wait a few more minutes while the remainder drains. If it's been a bad storm, I'll repeat until nothing more drips out of the drain holes on the bottom. Then I fly the cr*p out of her to get that airframe COMPLETELY dry. Moisture is the enemy of metal....must do my part to preserve the airframe :-).> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:33 AM PST US From: "mike floyd" Subject: Commander-List: RE: Frozen Rudder Trim --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" What usually happens with the rudder trim and elevator trim is that the actuators get moisture in them. If the actuators are removed cleaned and filled with Aeroshell 22 grease they will go a few years until the problem resurfaces. As for the breather freezing over that needs to be addressed right away, either the kit that puts the breather in the overboard exhaust stream, a whistle slot in the warm area of the cowling, oran arangement similar to the MR RPM conversions with the breather in the cooling air outlet of the cowl flaps. Regards Mike Commander NW LTD ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:17 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" "Crikey" I have wondered for some time if that was spelled with a "K" or a "C" bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > > Crikey! If you lived in England, you'd be at the airport 24/7 with arm > ache and > wet feet!! > > Barry C. (UK) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Vormbaum" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim > > > > hang > proportion > few > more > Moisture > full > > > -- > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:54 PM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Do you mean if the "C" was a "K" or the "K" was a "C"? Or, was the "C" a "K" with the "C" still a "C"? Or, was the "C" still a "C" and the "K" was a "C""? BC (UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" | | "Crikey" | | I have wondered for some time if that was spelled with a "K" or a "C" | | bilbo | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Barry Collman" | To: | Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim | | | > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" | > | > | > Crikey! If you lived in England, you'd be at the airport 24/7 with arm | > ache and | > wet feet!! | > | > Barry C. (UK) | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "John Vormbaum" | > To: | > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Frozen Rudder Trim | > | > | > | --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" | > | > | | > | Hey Larry, just a thought, | > | | > | After every rainstorm I have my girl do the "Commander Squat", i.e. I | > hang | > | from the tail (I weigh a considerable amount...but hey, it's in | > proportion | > | to my height!) to pull the tail down to the ground, then sit on it for a | > few | > | minutes while the rainwater drains out of the fuselage. Then I let the | > | nosewheel back down to the ground and wait a few more minutes while the | > | remainder drains. If it's been a bad storm, I'll repeat until nothing | > more | > | drips out of the drain holes on the bottom. | > | | > | Then I fly the cr*p out of her to get that airframe COMPLETELY dry. | > Moisture | > | is the enemy of metal....must do my part to preserve the airframe :-). | > | | > | /J | > | | > | PS: The airframe is easier to tip with 2 people, and easier still with | > full | > | tanks. | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | -- | > | No virus found in this incoming message. | > | | > | | > | > | > -- | > | > | > | | | | | | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | | --