Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:47 AM - Another Weird winglet ! (Barry Collman)
2. 07:21 AM - Re: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem (Russell Legg)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: Another Weird winglet ! (Russell Legg)
4. 07:30 AM - Re: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem (Barry Collman)
5. 07:50 AM - Re: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem (nico css)
6. 08:01 AM - Re: Another Weird winglet ! (Moe)
7. 08:04 AM - Re: Another Weird winglet ! (Barry Collman)
8. 08:14 AM - Re: Another Weird winglet ! (Tom Fisher)
9. 08:52 AM - Aircraft painting in CA (swperk@earthlink.net)
10. 10:08 AM - Re: High Solids Paints (JBOBSTER@aol.com)
11. 12:46 PM - Re: Aircraft painting in CA (Moe)
12. 12:53 PM - Email from Russell (Barry Collman)
13. 01:21 PM - Re: Email from Russell (nico css)
14. 01:32 PM - Re: Aircraft painting in CA (swperk@earthlink.net)
15. 01:39 PM - Re: Another Weird winglet ! (Bill Bow)
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| Subject: | Another Weird winglet ! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi again,
I don't believe it! Yet another of the 'surf-board' winglets has been installed.
This time, they are on a 560A, N2764B at Gillespie Field (KSEE) in California.
Check it out at the following link:
www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=237695
Have I missed something?
Barry C (UK)
Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Commander-List: Weird winglet
| --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
|
| Hi guys,
|
| I've been looking at the photos of Commanders on airliners.net recently,
mainly
| looking for any modifications that I haven't got recorded on the database.
|
| Found a Model 680, s/n 502-172, N352SS, pictured at San Diego - Brown Field
| Municipal (KSDM) in October 2002.
|
| Take a look at the VERY non-standard winglet. The rudder is off a sister
'plane
| too!
|
| If anybody gets the chance to find out more, I'd like to know what it's all
| about.
|
| Here's the link:
|
www.airliners.net/open.file?id=287565&WxsIERv=Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre&WdsYXMg=Hagvgyrq&QtODMg=Fna%20Qvrtb%20-%20Oebja%20Svryq%20Zhavpvcny%20%28FQZ%20%2F%20XFQZ%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pnyvsbeavn&ktODMp=Bpgbore%202002&BP=1&WNEb25u=NveAvxba&xsIERvdWdsY=A352FF&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=407&NEb25uZWxs=2002-10-24%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=502-172&static=yes&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=5&prev_id=288213&next_id=144925&size=L
|
| Best Regards to ALl,
| Barry C (UK)
|
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| Subject: | Re: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
Now our dear WCG!
Since when did the TCFG promulgate protocols re feeling sorry for a member
who publicly announces retirement???
Spinning upside down...
Russell
On 6/4/05 3:16 AM, "CloudCraft@aol.com" <CloudCraft@aol.com> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 05-Apr-05 08:59:49 Pacific Daylight Time,
> barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
> I haven't seen you using the "Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so
> elsewhere." slogan at the end of your postings since early February.
> Sir Barry,
>
> It was taken off in mourning over the loss of your status as an employee.
>
> The grieving period is over now.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another Weird winglet ! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
G'day Sir Barry!
How much "space" do you suppose living on the edge of a surfboard might
require...therein lies the lesson on the newly discovered winglet!
Cheers from Oz
Russell
On 6/4/05 11:17 PM, "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
> Hi again,
>
> I don't believe it! Yet another of the 'surf-board' winglets has been
> installed.
>
> This time, they are on a 560A, N2764B at Gillespie Field (KSEE) in California.
>
> Check it out at the following link:
> www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=237695
>
> Have I missed something?
>
> Barry C (UK)
> Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Weird winglet
>
>
> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> mainly
> 'plane
> www.airliners.net/open.file?id=287565&WxsIERv=Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre&W
> dsYXMg=Hagvgyrq&QtODMg=Fna%20Qvrtb%20-%20Oebja%20Svryq%20Zhavpvcny%20%28FQZ%20
> %2F%20XFQZ%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pnyvsbeavn&ktODMp=Bpgbore%202002&BP=1&WNEb25u>
NveAvxba&xsIERvdWdsY=A352FF&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=407&NEb25uZWxs=2002
> -10-24%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=502-172&static=yes&sok=JURER%20%20%28
> nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cub
> gb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=5&prev_id=288213&next_id=144925&size=L
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
I think he really meant "it was taken off ON THE MORNING OF the loss of your
status as an employee."
He is forgiven. It's a sign of premature ageing!
Barry Collman
UK CommanderLand Rep.
High Wycombe, England (UK)
"Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Legg" <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem
| --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
|
| Now our dear WCG!
|
| Since when did the TCFG promulgate protocols re feeling sorry for a member
| who publicly announces retirement???
|
| Spinning upside down...
|
| Russell
|
|
| On 6/4/05 3:16 AM, "CloudCraft@aol.com" <CloudCraft@aol.com> wrote:
|
| > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
| >
| > In a message dated 05-Apr-05 08:59:49 Pacific Daylight Time,
| > barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
| > I haven't seen you using the "Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so
| > elsewhere." slogan at the end of your postings since early February.
| > Sir Barry,
| >
| > It was taken off in mourning over the loss of your status as an employee.
| >
| > The grieving period is over now.
| >
| > Wing Commander Gordon
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
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| --
| No virus found in this incoming message.
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| Subject: | Re: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Or, "the time you spend wondering where you ever found time for work."
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
> I think he really meant "it was taken off ON THE MORNING OF the loss of
your
> status as an employee."
>
> He is forgiven. It's a sign of premature ageing!
>
> Barry Collman
> UK CommanderLand Rep.
> High Wycombe, England (UK)
> "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space."
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Legg" <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Pressurization, Turbocharging problem
>
>
<rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
member
less so
employee.
>
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another Weird winglet ! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Gents:
Is my computer the only one that completely locked up when I tried to go to
www.jetphotos.net/...........to see the weird winglets?
Moe Mills
N680RR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Commander-List: Another Weird winglet !
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
> Hi again,
>
> I don't believe it! Yet another of the 'surf-board' winglets has been
installed.
>
> This time, they are on a 560A, N2764B at Gillespie Field (KSEE) in
California.
>
> Check it out at the following link:
> www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=237695
>
> Have I missed something?
>
> Barry C (UK)
> Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Weird winglet
>
>
> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> mainly
database.
Field
> 'plane
all
>
www.airliners.net/open.file?id=287565&WxsIERv=Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre
&WdsYXMg=Hagvgyrq&QtODMg=Fna%20Qvrtb%20-%20Oebja%20Svryq%20Zhavpvcny%20%28FQ
Z%20%2F%20XFQZ%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pnyvsbeavn&ktODMp=Bpgbore%202002&BP=1&WN
Eb25u=NveAvxba&xsIERvdWdsY=A352FF&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=407&NEb25uZ
Wxs=2002-10-24%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=502-172&static=yes&sok=JURE
R%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre%27%29%20%20BEQR
E%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=5&prev_id=288213&next_id=144925&size=L
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another Weird winglet ! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi Moe,
It opened OK for me when I tried the link from the email I sent.
It also opened OK from the one on your reply.
Spooky!
Barry Collman
UK CommanderLand Rep.
High Wycombe, England
"Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Another Weird winglet !
| --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
|
| Gents:
|
| Is my computer the only one that completely locked up when I tried to go to
| www.jetphotos.net/...........to see the weird winglets?
|
| Moe Mills
| N680RR
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
| To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: Commander-List: Another Weird winglet !
|
|
| > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
| <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
| >
| > Hi again,
| >
| > I don't believe it! Yet another of the 'surf-board' winglets has been
| installed.
| >
| > This time, they are on a 560A, N2764B at Gillespie Field (KSEE) in
| California.
| >
| > Check it out at the following link:
| > www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=237695
| >
| > Have I missed something?
| >
| > Barry C (UK)
| > Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space
| >
| >
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
| > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
| > Subject: Commander-List: Weird winglet
| >
| >
| > | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
| > <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
| > |
| > | Hi guys,
| > |
| > | I've been looking at the photos of Commanders on airliners.net recently,
| > mainly
| > | looking for any modifications that I haven't got recorded on the
| database.
| > |
| > | Found a Model 680, s/n 502-172, N352SS, pictured at San Diego - Brown
| Field
| > | Municipal (KSDM) in October 2002.
| > |
| > | Take a look at the VERY non-standard winglet. The rudder is off a sister
| > 'plane
| > | too!
| > |
| > | If anybody gets the chance to find out more, I'd like to know what it's
| all
| > | about.
| > |
| > | Here's the link:
| > |
| >
| www.airliners.net/open.file?id=287565&WxsIERv=Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre
| &WdsYXMg=Hagvgyrq&QtODMg=Fna%20Qvrtb%20-%20Oebja%20Svryq%20Zhavpvcny%20%28FQ
| Z%20%2F%20XFQZ%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pnyvsbeavn&ktODMp=Bpgbore%202002&BP=1&WN
| Eb25u=NveAvxba&xsIERvdWdsY=A352FF&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=407&NEb25uZ
| Wxs=2002-10-24%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=502-172&static=yes&sok=JURE
| R%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre%27%29%20%20BEQR
| E%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=5&prev_id=288213&next_id=144925&size=L
| > |
| > | Best Regards to ALl,
| > | Barry C (UK)
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | No virus found in this incoming message.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| >
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| --
| No virus found in this incoming message.
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| Subject: | Re: Another Weird winglet ! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
That happened to me the first time as well.
Tom F.
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Another Weird winglet !
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
>
> Gents:
>
> Is my computer the only one that completely locked up when I tried to go
to
> www.jetphotos.net/...........to see the weird winglets?
>
> Moe Mills
> N680RR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Another Weird winglet !
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi again,
> >
> > I don't believe it! Yet another of the 'surf-board' winglets has been
> installed.
> >
> > This time, they are on a 560A, N2764B at Gillespie Field (KSEE) in
> California.
> >
> > Check it out at the following link:
> > www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=237695
> >
> > Have I missed something?
> >
> > Barry C (UK)
> > Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Commander-List: Weird winglet
> >
> >
> > | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
> > <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> > |
> > | Hi guys,
> > |
> > | I've been looking at the photos of Commanders on airliners.net
recently,
> > mainly
> > | looking for any modifications that I haven't got recorded on the
> database.
> > |
> > | Found a Model 680, s/n 502-172, N352SS, pictured at San Diego - Brown
> Field
> > | Municipal (KSDM) in October 2002.
> > |
> > | Take a look at the VERY non-standard winglet. The rudder is off a
sister
> > 'plane
> > | too!
> > |
> > | If anybody gets the chance to find out more, I'd like to know what
it's
> all
> > | about.
> > |
> > | Here's the link:
> > |
> >
>
www.airliners.net/open.file?id=287565&WxsIERv=Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre
>
&WdsYXMg=Hagvgyrq&QtODMg=Fna%20Qvrtb%20-%20Oebja%20Svryq%20Zhavpvcny%20%28FQ
>
Z%20%2F%20XFQZ%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pnyvsbeavn&ktODMp=Bpgbore%202002&BP=1&WN
>
Eb25u=NveAvxba&xsIERvdWdsY=A352FF&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=407&NEb25uZ
>
Wxs=2002-10-24%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=502-172&static=yes&sok=JURE
>
R%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre%27%29%20%20BEQR
> E%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=5&prev_id=288213&next_id=144925&size=L
> > |
> > | Best Regards to ALl,
> > | Barry C (UK)
> > |
> > |
> > | --
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > | --
> > | No virus found in this incoming message.
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft painting in CA |
--> Commander-List message posted by: swperk@earthlink.net
Hi Moe,
Thanks for your info about paint formulations in CA.
Yesterday I spoke to an aircraft painter who had worked in CA for 18 years until
the restrictions became too severe, forcing him to relocate to AZ a few years
ago. He told me that the major restriction in CA these days is on the stripping
agents, not the paints themselves. He said that solvent-based (as opposed
to water-based) paints are still okay to use in CA, but that they must be "high-solids"
paints and it was his opinion that the idiosyncracies of these new paints
aren't as well understood as they are for the older paints. He observed
that the proper temperature and humidity levels are much more critical to getting
a good result with high-solids paints, and that not all paint shops can control
conditions that closely.
As far as paint strippers, the really nasty ones have been outlawed in CA, and
peroxide-based strippers are currently the ones approved for use. Ironically,
even though the "nasty" chemicals would be okay for this painter to use in AZ,
he uses peroxide-based strippers by choice because he likes them better. Also
(ironically) he uses a high-solids content primer because he prefers the quality
of the painting surface it leaves. Go figure!
So the bottom line is that the paints in CA may not be any better or worse than
those used elsewhere, but it defnitely is very dependent on the quality of the
paint shop itself.
Lastly, he and another local aircraft painter said I should avoid Imron paint at
all costs and go with JetGlo.
The shop in Santa Maria sounds promising, but I'll be asking a few more questions
before I make my final decision.
Do you have an opinion about the durability and finish quality of high-solids paints
versus the more traditional formulations?
Regards,
Stan
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| Subject: | Re: High Solids Paints |
--> Commander-List message posted by: JBOBSTER@aol.com
High Solids Paints are really just "low solvent" paints......the lower
solvent levels satisfy the EPA (or CARB as the state equivalent), but dramatically
impact flow and leveling of the paint. This is true even in spray applications.
A "high solids" job, even one that is properly applied will have a slight
orange peel look...this would be generally undesirable as an outcome with older
generation "high solvent" coatings but are a fact of life with the new
generation paints.
Jim
Seattle
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft painting in CA |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Hi Stan,
Thankfully, I have not had anything major painted in about seven years now,
so all of my experience is very dated. Since I plan to repaint next year,
your project is interesting to me. Like you, my bird is in the Southern
California sun, and close to the ocean, so durability is more important than
"concourse de elegance" quality.
Moe
M680RR
----- Original Message -----
From: <swperk@earthlink.net>
Subject: Commander-List: Aircraft painting in CA
> --> Commander-List message posted by: swperk@earthlink.net
>
> Hi Moe,
>
> Thanks for your info about paint formulations in CA.
>
> Yesterday I spoke to an aircraft painter who had worked in CA for 18 years
until the restrictions became too severe, forcing him to relocate to AZ a
few years ago. He told me that the major restriction in CA these days is on
the stripping agents, not the paints themselves. He said that solvent-based
(as opposed to water-based) paints are still okay to use in CA, but that
they must be "high-solids" paints and it was his opinion that the
idiosyncracies of these new paints aren't as well understood as they are for
the older paints. He observed that the proper temperature and humidity
levels are much more critical to getting a good result with high-solids
paints, and that not all paint shops can control conditions that closely.
>
> As far as paint strippers, the really nasty ones have been outlawed in CA,
and peroxide-based strippers are currently the ones approved for use.
Ironically, even though the "nasty" chemicals would be okay for this painter
to use in AZ, he uses peroxide-based strippers by choice because he likes
them better. Also (ironically) he uses a high-solids content primer because
he prefers the quality of the painting surface it leaves. Go figure!
>
> So the bottom line is that the paints in CA may not be any better or worse
than those used elsewhere, but it defnitely is very dependent on the quality
of the paint shop itself.
>
> Lastly, he and another local aircraft painter said I should avoid Imron
paint at all costs and go with JetGlo.
>
> The shop in Santa Maria sounds promising, but I'll be asking a few more
questions before I make my final decision.
>
> Do you have an opinion about the durability and finish quality of
high-solids paints versus the more traditional formulations?
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
>
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| Subject: | Email from Russell |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi JimBob,
Did you get an Email from Russell with a Word .doc file regarding s/n 1 as an
attached file?
If so, could you open it OK?
When I opened the file, Word loaded up OK and so did the first page.
But I couldn't scroll down or do anything else at all.
Task Manager showed that the Word program was "not responding".
Tried several times, all with same result.
Eventually, it locked my PC up completely. Tried again after a re-boot, but
still no success.
Emailed Russell, but haven't heard back from him. I expect it's past his bedtime
down under.
But, if the file opened up for you OK, could you Email me a copy?
Sincere Best Regards,
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Email from Russell |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
What you could do is to Save As the file as .rtf instead of .doc which removes
most of Word's tags and simplifes the output. It still loads the same as if it
is a Word document, so you shouldn't see any differences in the formatting. Then
send it. If, however, you cannot open it to begin with, you need Russell to
resend it.
Barry, try to save it as .rtf before you do anything; perhaps Word can recover
the file for you.
Just a suggestion.
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: Commander-List: Email from Russell
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>
> Hi JimBob,
>
> Did you get an Email from Russell with a Word .doc file regarding s/n 1 as an
> attached file?
>
> If so, could you open it OK?
>
> When I opened the file, Word loaded up OK and so did the first page.
> But I couldn't scroll down or do anything else at all.
> Task Manager showed that the Word program was "not responding".
>
> Tried several times, all with same result.
> Eventually, it locked my PC up completely. Tried again after a re-boot, but
> still no success.
> Emailed Russell, but haven't heard back from him. I expect it's past his bedtime
> down under.
>
> But, if the file opened up for you OK, could you Email me a copy?
>
> Sincere Best Regards,
> Barry
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft painting in CA |
--> Commander-List message posted by: swperk@earthlink.net
Hi Moe,
I've got a call out to the folks in Santa Maria but haven't heard back yet. I would
like to be able to see one or two examples of their work before I decide
whether to go with them or go out-of-state. I'll keep you posted!
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: Moe <moe@rosspistons.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aircraft painting in CA
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Hi Stan,
Thankfully, I have not had anything major painted in about seven years now,
so all of my experience is very dated. Since I plan to repaint next year,
your project is interesting to me. Like you, my bird is in the Southern
California sun, and close to the ocean, so durability is more important than
"concourse de elegance" quality.
Moe
M680RR
----- Original Message -----
From: <swperk@earthlink.net>
Subject: Commander-List: Aircraft painting in CA
> --> Commander-List message posted by: swperk@earthlink.net
>
> Hi Moe,
>
> Thanks for your info about paint formulations in CA.
>
> Yesterday I spoke to an aircraft painter who had worked in CA for 18 years
until the restrictions became too severe, forcing him to relocate to AZ a
few years ago. He told me that the major restriction in CA these days is on
the stripping agents, not the paints themselves. He said that solvent-based
(as opposed to water-based) paints are still okay to use in CA, but that
they must be "high-solids" paints and it was his opinion that the
idiosyncracies of these new paints aren't as well understood as they are for
the older paints. He observed that the proper temperature and humidity
levels are much more critical to getting a good result with high-solids
paints, and that not all paint shops can control conditions that closely.
>
> As far as paint strippers, the really nasty ones have been outlawed in CA,
and peroxide-based strippers are currently the ones approved for use.
Ironically, even though the "nasty" chemicals would be okay for this painter
to use in AZ, he uses peroxide-based strippers by choice because he likes
them better. Also (ironically) he uses a high-solids content primer because
he prefers the quality of the painting surface it leaves. Go figure!
>
> So the bottom line is that the paints in CA may not be any better or worse
than those used elsewhere, but it defnitely is very dependent on the quality
of the paint shop itself.
>
> Lastly, he and another local aircraft painter said I should avoid Imron
paint at all costs and go with JetGlo.
>
> The shop in Santa Maria sounds promising, but I'll be asking a few more
questions before I make my final decision.
>
> Do you have an opinion about the durability and finish quality of
high-solids paints versus the more traditional formulations?
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another Weird winglet ! |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Yes,
That's the short answer
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Another Weird winglet !
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
>
> Gents:
>
> Is my computer the only one that completely locked up when I tried to go
> to
> www.jetphotos.net/...........to see the weird winglets?
>
> Moe Mills
> N680RR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: Another Weird winglet !
>
>
>> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I don't believe it! Yet another of the 'surf-board' winglets has been
> installed.
>>
>> This time, they are on a 560A, N2764B at Gillespie Field (KSEE) in
> California.
>>
>> Check it out at the following link:
>> www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=237695
>>
>> Have I missed something?
>>
>> Barry C (UK)
>> Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Commander-List: Weird winglet
>>
>>
>> | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
>> <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
>> |
>> | Hi guys,
>> |
>> | I've been looking at the photos of Commanders on airliners.net
>> recently,
>> mainly
>> | looking for any modifications that I haven't got recorded on the
> database.
>> |
>> | Found a Model 680, s/n 502-172, N352SS, pictured at San Diego - Brown
> Field
>> | Municipal (KSDM) in October 2002.
>> |
>> | Take a look at the VERY non-standard winglet. The rudder is off a
>> sister
>> 'plane
>> | too!
>> |
>> | If anybody gets the chance to find out more, I'd like to know what it's
> all
>> | about.
>> |
>> | Here's the link:
>> |
>>
> www.airliners.net/open.file?id=287565&WxsIERv=Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre
> &WdsYXMg=Hagvgyrq&QtODMg=Fna%20Qvrtb%20-%20Oebja%20Svryq%20Zhavpvcny%20%28FQ
> Z%20%2F%20XFQZ%29&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pnyvsbeavn&ktODMp=Bpgbore%202002&BP=1&WN
> Eb25u=NveAvxba&xsIERvdWdsY=A352FF&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=407&NEb25uZ
> Wxs=2002-10-24%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=502-172&static=yes&sok=JURE
> R%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Nreb%20680%20Pbzznaqre%20Fhcre%27%29%20%20BEQR
> E%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=5&prev_id=288213&next_id=144925&size=L
>> |
>> | Best Regards to ALl,
>> | Barry C (UK)
>> |
>> |
>> | --
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | --
>> | No virus found in this incoming message.
>> |
>> |
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
>
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