---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/11/05: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:56 AM - Aero Commander 800 Article (BertBerry1@aol.com) 2. 07:38 AM - Membership List (Moe) 3. 07:40 AM - Re: lockup (Moe) 4. 10:23 AM - [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)) 5. 11:13 AM - Re: [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... (skyhawkC-172@comcast.net) 6. 01:29 PM - (bertberry1@aol.com) 7. 01:40 PM - Re: (Tom Fisher) 8. 02:02 PM - Re: (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 9. 02:10 PM - Re: (Brock Lorber) 10. 02:44 PM - Re: (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 11. 02:52 PM - Re: (mike floyd) 12. 04:42 PM - Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Ray Mansfied) 13. 05:12 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 14. 05:14 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Tom Fisher) 15. 07:59 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (CloudCraft@aol.com) 16. 08:31 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (tylor.hall) 17. 09:01 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (alh1@juno.com) 18. 10:50 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:02 AM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Aero Commander 800 Article --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Well I won the Aero Commander article, I had to BLEED alittle, but, I'll let the list know when it comes in just to make sure that I don't miss anyone who wants a copy. Thanks, Bert ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:51 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" J. B. Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what part of the world they are from. Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters straight while reading the posts. Regards, Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) HHR ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:59 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: lockup --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Dan, You simply have more perseverance than I have. After the first lock up I go on to the next email. Moe N680RR 680F(p) HHR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Brady" Subject: Commander-List: lockup > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Brady" > > Moe: You weren't the only one who crashed & burned trying to get the pix.......my 2nd attempt resulted in a total lockup....had to pull my p.c.'s little plug & give it a timeout before regaining some semblence of control......but computers & I have always had an adversarial relationship....even the littlest ones. I just completed my semiannual stress test i. e. changing my watch for daylight savings time...oh well! it could have been worse...I could have been trying to shoot a missed approach in an Airbus. Dan > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:47 AM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Subject: Commander-List: [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... --> Commander-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) System problems continue to plague the Matronics Email server. Incoming List mail was being rejected from about 12am Monday morning until about 10am PDT Monday 4/11. It is unclear at this time what is causing the system problem, but I am feverishly working on the issue. I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of the subscribe/unsubscribe requests since the 6th. You may have just received a subscribe/unsubscribe request and the FAQ if you've subscribed/unsubscribed since the 6th. At this time new posts are being processed and operation should be considered normal. More as information developes... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin DO NOT ARCHIVE -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:22 AM PST US From: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net Subject: Re: Commander-List: [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... --> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net I was wondering if you have ever considered switching servers. Or possibly switching software. There is a website that is very popular amoungst certain exotic sports cars I believe due to the layout, car, and most importantly the particular software...there are a dozen or so sites dedicated to this particular car, but none seem to be as popular as nsxprime.com It seems to me this software would enhance your site dramatically...check it out if you like it is called www.nsxprime.com it's not the car or the website, but the server software layout and all the good things I have heard about it...I bet u would benefit from it. Brent -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Commander-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > System problems continue to plague the Matronics Email server. > Incoming List mail was being rejected from about 12am Monday morning > until about 10am PDT Monday 4/11. It is unclear at this time what is > causing the system problem, but I am feverishly working on the issue. > > I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup > because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of > the subscribe/unsubscribe requests since the 6th. You may have just > received a subscribe/unsubscribe request and the FAQ if you've > subscribed/unsubscribed since the 6th. > > At this time new posts are being processed and operation should be > considered normal. > > More as information developes... > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Admin > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > -- > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > > > > > I was wondering if you have ever considered switching servers. Or possibly switching software. There is a website that is very popular amoungst certain exotic sports cars I believe due to the layout, car, and most importantly the particular software...there are a dozen or so sites dedicated to this particular car, but none seem to be as popular as nsxprime.com It seems to me this software would enhance your site dramatically...check it out if you like it is called www.nsxprime.com it's not the car or the website, but the server software layout and all the good things I have heard about it...I bet u would benefit from it. Brent -------------- Original message -------------- -- Commander-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) System problems continue to plague the Matronics Email server. Incoming List mail was being rejected from about 12am Monday morning until about 10am PDT Monday 4/11. It is unclear at this time what is causing the system problem, but I am feverishly working on the issue. I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of the subscribe/unsubscribe requests since the 6th. You may have just received a subscribe/unsubscribe request and the FAQ if you've subscribed/unsubscribed since the 6th. At this time new posts are being processed and operation should be considered normal. More as information developes... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin DO NOT ARCHIVE -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft =============== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:03 PM PST US From: bertberry1@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:02 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Count me as one of them. Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: > --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com > > Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:02:50 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:02:36 -0500 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" BB, NOT VERY MANY ANY MORE. MASON ----- Original Message ----- From: bertberry1@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: From: "Brock Lorber" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber" One in Las Vegas! Brock N400CH -----Original Message----- From: bertberry1@aol.com To:commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:53 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:44:36 -0500 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" ONE IN FORT WORTH. MASON 2001M ----- Original Message ----- From: Brock Lorber To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber" > One in Las Vegas! Brock N400CH -----Original Message----- From: bertberry1@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:28:27 To:commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:55 PM PST US From: "mike floyd" Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" Two MR. RPM conversions up here. N7UP, N98UP. Mike Commander NW LTD ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:16 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfied" Subject: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" One in Destin, FL, N91ES. While on the subject. I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. My understanding from the maintenance folks, who talked to Mr. RPM, is I have the old one (don't think they asked Mr. RPM the difference). I'm also the guy having the turbo/pressurization problem that I bring up on this site now and then. (And everyone is very helpful with suggestions...much appreciated, still working the problem) Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:59 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:13:25 -0500 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Mansfied To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" > One in Destin, FL, N91ES. While on the subject. I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. My understanding from the maintenance folks, who talked to Mr. RPM, is I have the old one (don't think they asked Mr. RPM the difference). I'm also the guy having the turbo/pressurization problem that I bring up on this site now and then. (And everyone is very helpful with suggestions...much appreciated, still working the problem) Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:27 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" I do not have to worry about pressurization as this bird is currently in "survey configuration" with a 19" camera port and a 9" camera port. Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Mansfied" Subject: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" > > One in Destin, FL, N91ES. While on the subject. I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. My understanding from the maintenance folks, who talked to Mr. RPM, is I have the old one (don't think they asked Mr. RPM the difference). I'm also the guy having the turbo/pressurization problem that I bring up on this site now and then. (And everyone is very helpful with suggestions...much appreciated, still working the problem) > > Ray Mansfield > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:31 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 11-Apr-05 19:53:33 Pacific Daylight Time, hcourier@cox.net writes: I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. Ray, I'm not as current on what Mr. RPM is up to these days (JimBob and Tylor Hall are more so) but this is the first I've heard of "old" and "new" conversions. What I know to be true in the field is that there were full conversions (with bleed air and 5606 hydraulic fluid changes) and some just had the engines done and kept Skydrol. But I know that MR. RPM has been working on improved RayJays, intercoolers and auto-waste gates. Maybe that's the "new" conversion, although I don't know if any have been done yet. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:25 PM PST US From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" The only old or new conversions were a change or option for automatic waste gates that came some time later in Dick's conversions. The original has the manual waste gates. Later he added the automatic controllers that pushed a twin cable that was attached to the waste gates. There were 38 conversions done. I have a file on it someplace with all the N numbers and what has happened to them. Some are no longer with us. Barry C has that information as well. Does anyone know what happened to the 680FL with the Mr RPM conversion that the State of New Mexico was trying to sell? I think it was 4141S. The Governor is looking for a Jet to replace it. NM has owned it for 30+ years and put over 12,000 hours on it. I saw the plane in Santa Fe last fall when there was a sealed bid. It went to bid twice. Ray, Your problem with MP is a very small leak somewhere in the system. From what you have tried, I would suggest looking at the upper deck pressure tubing to the injectors like NW Commander suggested. They have put a lot of hours on MR RPM Commanders over a lot of years. They fly them on Forest Service contracts each summer. Tom, are you going to post some photos of your Twin Commander? Does it still have the MAD boom? Photo can be posted at www.matronics.com . Tylor Hall --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 11-Apr-05 19:53:33 Pacific Daylight Time, hcourier@cox.net writes: I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. Ray, I'm not as current on what Mr. RPM is up to these days (JimBob and Tylor Hall are more so) but this is the first I've heard of "old" and "new" conversions. What I know to be true in the field is that there were full conversions (with bleed air and 5606 hydraulic fluid changes) and some just had the engines done and kept Skydrol. But I know that MR. RPM has been working on improved RayJays, intercoolers and auto-waste gates. Maybe that's the "new" conversion, although I don't know if any have been done yet. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:39 PM PST US From: "alh1@juno.com" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "alh1@juno.com" i will be at sun and fun on thursday, 4/15. i have a 500 n628ah. i assume i will be in the north 40 (extreme east side of airport where they usually park the twins). if you are going and would like to discuss commanders, park near us and i will be at the plane from 4 pm until the airshow ends. al hoffman Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:06 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Sure I'll get some images taken, haven't had much luck with cruising existing photos perhaps posting them is easier. Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM ----- Original Message ----- From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP > --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" > > The only old or new conversions were a change or option for automatic waste > gates that came some time later in Dick's conversions. The original has the > manual waste gates. Later he added the automatic controllers that pushed a > twin cable that was attached to the waste gates. > There were 38 conversions done. I have a file on it someplace with all the > N numbers and what has happened to them. Some are no longer with us. Barry > C has that information as well. > > Does anyone know what happened to the 680FL with the Mr RPM conversion that > the State of New Mexico was trying to sell? I think it was 4141S. The > Governor is looking for a Jet to replace it. NM has owned it for 30+ years > and put over 12,000 hours on it. I saw the plane in Santa Fe last fall when > there was a sealed bid. It went to bid twice. > > Ray, Your problem with MP is a very small leak somewhere in the system. > >From what you have tried, I would suggest looking at the upper deck pressure > tubing to the injectors like NW Commander suggested. They have put a lot of > hours on MR RPM Commanders over a lot of years. They fly them on Forest > Service contracts each summer. > > Tom, are you going to post some photos of your Twin Commander? Does it > still have the MAD boom? Photo can be posted at www.matronics.com . > > Tylor Hall > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 11-Apr-05 19:53:33 Pacific Daylight Time, > hcourier@cox.net > writes: > I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, > the > new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. > Ray, > > I'm not as current on what Mr. RPM is up to these days (JimBob and Tylor > Hall > are more so) but this is the first I've heard of "old" and "new" > conversions. > > What I know to be true in the field is that there were full conversions > (with > bleed air and 5606 hydraulic fluid changes) and some just had the engines > done and kept Skydrol. > > But I know that MR. RPM has been working on improved RayJays, intercoolers > and auto-waste gates. Maybe that's the "new" conversion, although I don't > know > if any have been done yet. > > Wing Commander Gordon > > > Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. > >