---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/12/05: 36 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:38 AM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Barry Collman) 2. 06:01 AM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Avtec2) 3. 06:02 AM - Test (BobsV35B@aol.com) 4. 06:14 AM - Membership List (Moe) 5. 06:30 AM - Re: Membership List (James Rodriguez Colom) 6. 06:42 AM - Re: Membership List (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 7. 07:21 AM - Re: Membership List (RRamm52@cs.com) 8. 07:22 AM - Re: Membership List (Barry Collman) 9. 07:24 AM - Re: Membership List (Russell Legg) 10. 07:30 AM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Russell Legg) 11. 07:33 AM - Re: Membership List (RRamm52@cs.com) 12. 07:45 AM - Re: Membership List (Barry Collman) 13. 08:01 AM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 04/11/05 (John McNulty) 14. 08:15 AM - Re: Membership List (Jim Hasler) 15. 08:17 AM - Re: Membership List (Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)) 16. 08:26 AM - Re: Membership List (Tom Fisher) 17. 08:27 AM - Aviation News (AVIATION GROUP) 18. 08:33 AM - Re: Membership List (BobsV35B@aol.com) 19. 08:35 AM - Re: Membership List (RRamm52@cs.com) 20. 08:41 AM - Re: Membership List (BertBerry1@aol.com) 21. 09:20 AM - Re: Membership List (Jim Hasler) 22. 09:24 AM - Re: Membership List (Jim Hasler) 23. 10:46 AM - Re: Membership List (Moe) 24. 10:49 AM - Membership list (Avtec2) 25. 11:56 AM - Re: Membership List (Bill Bow) 26. 11:56 AM - Re: Membership List (Bill Bow) 27. 11:56 AM - Re: Membership List (Bill Bow) 28. 12:19 PM - Re: Membership List (RRamm52@cs.com) 29. 02:15 PM - Re: Membership List (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 30. 05:52 PM - [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 31. 05:58 PM - Re: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (John Vormbaum) 32. 07:49 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (tylor.hall) 33. 07:58 PM - Re: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Jim Addington) 34. 08:42 PM - Re: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (tylor.hall) 35. 09:06 PM - Re: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Lowell Girod) 36. 11:23 PM - Re: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:49 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Tylor, N1414S had a test flight in the USA last week, so could now be on its way to Australia, where Steve Nott's General Aviation Maintenance Pty Ltd will operate it. They are the Oz equivalent of John Towner's Central Air, with about 30 Commanders, Most are 500S, with a sprinkling of 680FL, 500B, 681, 690 and 690A. Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" ----- Original Message ----- From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP | --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" | | The only old or new conversions were a change or option for automatic waste | gates that came some time later in Dick's conversions. The original has the | manual waste gates. Later he added the automatic controllers that pushed a | twin cable that was attached to the waste gates. | There were 38 conversions done. I have a file on it someplace with all the | N numbers and what has happened to them. Some are no longer with us. Barry | C has that information as well. | | Does anyone know what happened to the 680FL with the Mr RPM conversion that | the State of New Mexico was trying to sell? I think it was 4141S. The | Governor is looking for a Jet to replace it. NM has owned it for 30+ years | and put over 12,000 hours on it. I saw the plane in Santa Fe last fall when | there was a sealed bid. It went to bid twice. | | Ray, Your problem with MP is a very small leak somewhere in the system. | From what you have tried, I would suggest looking at the upper deck pressure | tubing to the injectors like NW Commander suggested. They have put a lot of | hours on MR RPM Commanders over a lot of years. They fly them on Forest | Service contracts each summer. | | Tom, are you going to post some photos of your Twin Commander? Does it | still have the MAD boom? Photo can be posted at www.matronics.com . | | Tylor Hall | | | --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com | | In a message dated 11-Apr-05 19:53:33 Pacific Daylight Time, | hcourier@cox.net | writes: | I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, | the | new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. | Ray, | | I'm not as current on what Mr. RPM is up to these days (JimBob and Tylor | Hall | are more so) but this is the first I've heard of "old" and "new" | conversions. | | What I know to be true in the field is that there were full conversions | (with | bleed air and 5606 hydraulic fluid changes) and some just had the engines | done and kept Skydrol. | | But I know that MR. RPM has been working on improved RayJays, intercoolers | and auto-waste gates. Maybe that's the "new" conversion, although I don't | know | if any have been done yet. | | Wing Commander Gordon | | | Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. | | | | | | | | | -- | | -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:37 AM PST US From: "Avtec2" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Avtec2" I Have the nicest 1963 680FLP In the world!!! for sale. Matahorn White, orange and blue stripes 9.5 on out side. Brown interior, new carpet, 9.0 inside. TTAF 5,427, LE & RE SM-125. Full Deice , including Fresh Props, with new full length blades, Fresh Annual Automatic waste gates, winglets, Cleveland brakes, flap-gap seals, Freon Air-condition with new blower motors New IFR Certification, Just weighted, Plane spent the last 15 year in Las Vegas. Located it Titusville FL at (X-21) Dunn airport. 3,000 feet of runway Harry Merritt 321 267-3141 ----- Original Message ----- From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP > --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" > > > The only old or new conversions were a change or option for automatic > waste > gates that came some time later in Dick's conversions. The original has > the > manual waste gates. Later he added the automatic controllers that pushed > a > twin cable that was attached to the waste gates. > There were 38 conversions done. I have a file on it someplace with all > the > N numbers and what has happened to them. Some are no longer with us. > Barry > C has that information as well. > > Does anyone know what happened to the 680FL with the Mr RPM conversion > that > the State of New Mexico was trying to sell? I think it was 4141S. The > Governor is looking for a Jet to replace it. NM has owned it for 30+ > years > and put over 12,000 hours on it. I saw the plane in Santa Fe last fall > when > there was a sealed bid. It went to bid twice. > > Ray, Your problem with MP is a very small leak somewhere in the system. > From what you have tried, I would suggest looking at the upper deck > pressure > tubing to the injectors like NW Commander suggested. They have put a lot > of > hours on MR RPM Commanders over a lot of years. They fly them on Forest > Service contracts each summer. > > Tom, are you going to post some photos of your Twin Commander? Does it > still have the MAD boom? Photo can be posted at www.matronics.com . > > Tylor Hall > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 11-Apr-05 19:53:33 Pacific Daylight Time, > hcourier@cox.net > writes: > I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, > the > new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. > Ray, > > I'm not as current on what Mr. RPM is up to these days (JimBob and Tylor > Hall > are more so) but this is the first I've heard of "old" and "new" > conversions. > > What I know to be true in the field is that there were full conversions > (with > bleed air and 5606 hydraulic fluid changes) and some just had the engines > done and kept Skydrol. > > But I know that MR. RPM has been working on improved RayJays, intercoolers > and auto-waste gates. Maybe that's the "new" conversion, although I don't > know > if any have been done yet. > > Wing Commander Gordon > > > Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:05 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Test --> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com Test sent at 0802 Do Not Archive Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Airpark LL22 Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:26 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" J.B., Barry (or anyone), Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what part of the world they are from? Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters straight while reading the posts. If no such list exists, perhaps we could post a spread sheet and everyone who wanted to could type in the info. Regards, Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) HHR ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:27 AM PST US From: "James Rodriguez Colom" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "James Rodriguez Colom" Excellent idea Moe. Regards, Jimmy N107VC -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Subject: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" J.B., Barry (or anyone), Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what part of the world they are from? Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters straight while reading the posts. 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MASON CHEVAILLIER, 910 COLLIER ST., FORT WORTH, TX 76102 817-877-4977 ----- Original Message ----- From: Moe To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > J.B., Barry (or anyone), Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what part of the world they are from? Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters straight while reading the posts. If no such list exists, perhaps we could post a spread sheet and everyone who wanted to could type in the info. Regards, Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) HHR ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:47 AM PST US From: RRamm52@cs.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com Seems like a good idea, Moe I don't believe there are very many of us, as compared to other types of aircraft.... Rob AC50 In a message dated 4/12/2005 8:42:53 AM Central Standard Time, Kamala@msn.com writes: > J.B., Barry (or anyone), > > Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their > registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what part > of the world they are from? > > Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters > straight while reading the posts. > > If no such list exists, perhaps we could post a spread sheet and everyone > who wanted to could type in the info. > > Regards, > Moe Mills > N680RR > 680F(p) > HHR ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:41 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Moe, et al, Are we 'talking' about chatlist subscribers or Flight Group Members? I haven't got a list for either, but I hope Jimbob has for Members! There was a sort of list, started on the old website. It can still be accessed, as follows, but it needs input from everybody: Go to www.aerocommander.com/ Click on 'Library' Click on 'Web Archive', and "The Aero Commander Site" page loads (www.aerocommander.com/index4.html) Scroll down to the very bottom and click on "Twin Commander Owners Internet Registry" (www.aerocommander.com/Documents/owners.html) But, silly me, it cannot be added to I don't think!! Perhaps Chris Wall can instigate a newer facility? Very Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Membership List | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" | | J.B., Barry (or anyone), | | Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what part of the world they are from? | | Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters straight while reading the posts. | | If no such list exists, perhaps we could post a spread sheet and everyone who wanted to could type in the info. | | Regards, | Moe Mills | N680RR | 680F(p) | HHR | | | | | | | | | -- | | -- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List From: Russell Legg --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg G'day Moe, We Ozzies are easy to spot...upside down emails... Cheers Russell On 12/4/05 10:34 PM, "Moe" wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > J.B., Barry (or anyone), > > Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their > registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what > part of the world they are from? > > Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters straight > while reading the posts. > > If no such list exists, perhaps we could post a spread sheet and everyone who > wanted to could type in the info. > > Regards, > Moe Mills > N680RR > 680F(p) > HHR > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP From: Russell Legg --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg G'day Tylor, 1414S was purchased at auction for an absolute steal of a price...created some fuss in New Mexico newspapers. Has been fitted out with ferry tanks in Ca over the past few weeks and is due to arrive in Oz soon. Regards from Oz Russell On 12/4/05 6:08 PM, "Barry Collman" wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > > Hi Tylor, > > N1414S had a test flight in the USA last week, so could now be on its way to > Australia, where Steve Nott's General Aviation Maintenance Pty Ltd will > operate > it. > > They are the Oz equivalent of John Towner's Central Air, with about 30 > Commanders, Most are 500S, with a sprinkling of 680FL, 500B, 681, 690 and > 690A. > > Best Regards, > Barry Collman > UK CommanderLand Rep. > High Wycombe, England > "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tylor.hall" > To: > Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:05 AM PST US From: RRamm52@cs.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:23:04 AM Central Standard Time, barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes: > Hi Moe, et al, > > Are we 'talking' about chatlist subscribers or Flight Group Members? > > I haven't got a list for either, but I hope Jimbob has for Members! Hello, Barry Could you please give me an idea of how many of us aero commander folks are one this list and how many aircraft do we own? Thanks, Rob ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:03 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Rob, I don't know how many people are on the list. Is there a way to find out? Will "commander-list@matronics.com" tell us if we ask? But, a gut feeling is that about 90-95% own a Commander. Some own more than one! Trouble is, we have no way of knowing who is 'subscribed', but is purely a 'lurker' and has never made a posting to the list. So come on all you Commander "wannabe's" - show yourselves!! Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List | --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com | | In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:23:04 AM Central Standard Time, | barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes: | > Hi Moe, et al, | > | > Are we 'talking' about chatlist subscribers or Flight Group Members? | > | > I haven't got a list for either, but I hope Jimbob has for Members! | | Hello, Barry | Could you please give me an idea of how many of us aero commander folks are | on this list and how many aircraft do we own? | Thanks, | Rob | | | | | | | | | -- | | -- ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:34 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: RE: Commander-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 04/11/05 From: "John McNulty" --> Commander-List message posted by: "John McNulty" Add me to the Mr. RPM list N89PK 680FP , and my former 611FA, a 500S John McNulty -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Commander-List Digest Server Subject: Commander-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 04/11/05 * ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. 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(dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)) 5. 11:13 AM - Re: [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... (skyhawkC-172@comcast.net) 6. 01:29 PM - (bertberry1@aol.com) 7. 01:40 PM - Re: (Tom Fisher) 8. 02:02 PM - Re: (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 9. 02:10 PM - Re: (Brock Lorber) 10. 02:44 PM - Re: (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 11. 02:52 PM - Re: (mike floyd) 12. 04:42 PM - Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Ray Mansfied) 13. 05:12 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 14. 05:14 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Tom Fisher) 15. 07:59 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (CloudCraft@aol.com) 16. 08:31 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (tylor.hall) 17. 09:01 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (alh1@juno.com) 18. 10:50 PM - Re: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:02 AM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Aero Commander 800 Article --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Well I won the Aero Commander article, I had to BLEED alittle, but, I'll let the list know when it comes in just to make sure that I don't miss anyone who wants a copy. Thanks, Bert ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:51 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" J. B. Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what part of the world they are from. Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters straight while reading the posts. Regards, Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) HHR ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:59 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: lockup --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Dan, You simply have more perseverance than I have. After the first lock up I go on to the next email. Moe N680RR 680F(p) HHR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Brady" Subject: Commander-List: lockup > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Brady" > > Moe: You weren't the only one who crashed & burned trying to get the pix.......my 2nd attempt resulted in a total lockup....had to pull my p.c.'s little plug & give it a timeout before regaining some semblence of control......but computers & I have always had an adversarial relationship....even the littlest ones. I just completed my semiannual stress test i. e. changing my watch for daylight savings time...oh well! it could have been worse...I could have been trying to shoot a missed approach in an Airbus. Dan > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:47 AM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Subject: Commander-List: [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... --> Commander-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) System problems continue to plague the Matronics Email server. Incoming List mail was being rejected from about 12am Monday morning until about 10am PDT Monday 4/11. It is unclear at this time what is causing the system problem, but I am feverishly working on the issue. I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of the subscribe/unsubscribe requests since the 6th. You may have just received a subscribe/unsubscribe request and the FAQ if you've subscribed/unsubscribed since the 6th. At this time new posts are being processed and operation should be considered normal. More as information developes... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin DO NOT ARCHIVE -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:22 AM PST US From: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net Subject: Re: Commander-List: [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... --> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net I was wondering if you have ever considered switching servers. Or possibly switching software. There is a website that is very popular amoungst certain exotic sports cars I believe due to the layout, car, and most importantly the particular software...there are a dozen or so sites dedicated to this particular car, but none seem to be as popular as nsxprime.com It seems to me this software would enhance your site dramatically...check it out if you like it is called www.nsxprime.com it's not the car or the website, but the server software layout and all the good things I have heard about it...I bet u would benefit from it. Brent -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Commander-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > System problems continue to plague the Matronics Email server. > Incoming List mail was being rejected from about 12am Monday morning > until about 10am PDT Monday 4/11. It is unclear at this time what is > causing the system problem, but I am feverishly working on the issue. > > I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup > because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of > the subscribe/unsubscribe requests since the 6th. You may have just > received a subscribe/unsubscribe request and the FAQ if you've > subscribed/unsubscribed since the 6th. > > At this time new posts are being processed and operation should be > considered normal. > > More as information developes... > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Admin > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > -- > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > > > > > I was wondering if you have ever considered switching servers. Or possibly switching software. There is a website that is very popular amoungst certain exotic sports cars I believe due to the layout, car, and most importantly the particular software...there are a dozen or so sites dedicated to this particular car, but none seem to be as popular as nsxprime.com It seems to me this software would enhance your site dramatically...check it out if you like it is called www.nsxprime.com it's not the car or the website, but the server software layout and all the good things I have heard about it...I bet u would benefit from it. Brent -------------- Original message -------------- -- Commander-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) System problems continue to plague the Matronics Email server. Incoming List mail was being rejected from about 12am Monday morning until about 10am PDT Monday 4/11. It is unclear at this time what is causing the system problem, but I am feverishly working on the issue. I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of the subscribe/unsubscribe requests since the 6th. You may have just received a subscribe/unsubscribe request and the FAQ if you've subscribed/unsubscribed since the 6th. At this time new posts are being processed and operation should be considered normal. More as information developes... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin DO NOT ARCHIVE -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft =============== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:03 PM PST US From: bertberry1@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:02 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Count me as one of them. Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Commander-List: > --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com > > Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:02:50 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:02:36 -0500 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" BB, NOT VERY MANY ANY MORE. MASON ----- Original Message ----- From: bertberry1@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: From: "Brock Lorber" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber" One in Las Vegas! Brock N400CH -----Original Message----- From: bertberry1@aol.com To:commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:53 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:44:36 -0500 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" ONE IN FORT WORTH. MASON 2001M ----- Original Message ----- From: Brock Lorber To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber" > One in Las Vegas! Brock N400CH -----Original Message----- From: bertberry1@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:28:27 To:commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com Just out of curiosity, how many RPM Conversion Commanders are there on the list?? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:52:55 PM PST US From: "mike floyd" Subject: Re: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" Two MR. RPM conversions up here. N7UP, N98UP. Mike Commander NW LTD ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:16 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfied" Subject: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" One in Destin, FL, N91ES. While on the subject. I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. My understanding from the maintenance folks, who talked to Mr. RPM, is I have the old one (don't think they asked Mr. RPM the difference). I'm also the guy having the turbo/pressurization problem that I bring up on this site now and then. (And everyone is very helpful with suggestions...much appreciated, still working the problem) Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:59 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:13:25 -0500 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Mansfied To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" > One in Destin, FL, N91ES. While on the subject. I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. My understanding from the maintenance folks, who talked to Mr. RPM, is I have the old one (don't think they asked Mr. RPM the difference). I'm also the guy having the turbo/pressurization problem that I bring up on this site now and then. (And everyone is very helpful with suggestions...much appreciated, still working the problem) Ray Mansfield ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:27 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" I do not have to worry about pressurization as this bird is currently in "survey configuration" with a 19" camera port and a 9" camera port. Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Mansfied" Subject: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" > > One in Destin, FL, N91ES. While on the subject. I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. My understanding from the maintenance folks, who talked to Mr. RPM, is I have the old one (don't think they asked Mr. RPM the difference). I'm also the guy having the turbo/pressurization problem that I bring up on this site now and then. (And everyone is very helpful with suggestions...much appreciated, still working the problem) > > Ray Mansfield > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:31 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 11-Apr-05 19:53:33 Pacific Daylight Time, hcourier@cox.net writes: I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. Ray, I'm not as current on what Mr. RPM is up to these days (JimBob and Tylor Hall are more so) but this is the first I've heard of "old" and "new" conversions. What I know to be true in the field is that there were full conversions (with bleed air and 5606 hydraulic fluid changes) and some just had the engines done and kept Skydrol. But I know that MR. RPM has been working on improved RayJays, intercoolers and auto-waste gates. Maybe that's the "new" conversion, although I don't know if any have been done yet. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:25 PM PST US From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" The only old or new conversions were a change or option for automatic waste gates that came some time later in Dick's conversions. The original has the manual waste gates. Later he added the automatic controllers that pushed a twin cable that was attached to the waste gates. There were 38 conversions done. I have a file on it someplace with all the N numbers and what has happened to them. Some are no longer with us. Barry C has that information as well. Does anyone know what happened to the 680FL with the Mr RPM conversion that the State of New Mexico was trying to sell? I think it was 4141S. The Governor is looking for a Jet to replace it. NM has owned it for 30+ years and put over 12,000 hours on it. I saw the plane in Santa Fe last fall when there was a sealed bid. It went to bid twice. Ray, Your problem with MP is a very small leak somewhere in the system. From what you have tried, I would suggest looking at the upper deck pressure tubing to the injectors like NW Commander suggested. They have put a lot of hours on MR RPM Commanders over a lot of years. They fly them on Forest Service contracts each summer. Tom, are you going to post some photos of your Twin Commander? Does it still have the MAD boom? Photo can be posted at www.matronics.com . Tylor Hall --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 11-Apr-05 19:53:33 Pacific Daylight Time, hcourier@cox.net writes: I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, the new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. Ray, I'm not as current on what Mr. RPM is up to these days (JimBob and Tylor Hall are more so) but this is the first I've heard of "old" and "new" conversions. What I know to be true in the field is that there were full conversions (with bleed air and 5606 hydraulic fluid changes) and some just had the engines done and kept Skydrol. But I know that MR. RPM has been working on improved RayJays, intercoolers and auto-waste gates. Maybe that's the "new" conversion, although I don't know if any have been done yet. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:39 PM PST US From: "alh1@juno.com" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "alh1@juno.com" i will be at sun and fun on thursday, 4/15. i have a 500 n628ah. i assume i will be in the north 40 (extreme east side of airport where they usually park the twins). if you are going and would like to discuss commanders, park near us and i will be at the plane from 4 pm until the airshow ends. al hoffman Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:06 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Sure I'll get some images taken, haven't had much luck with cruising existing photos perhaps posting them is easier. Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM ----- Original Message ----- From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP > --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" > > The only old or new conversions were a change or option for automatic waste > gates that came some time later in Dick's conversions. The original has the > manual waste gates. Later he added the automatic controllers that pushed a > twin cable that was attached to the waste gates. > There were 38 conversions done. I have a file on it someplace with all the > N numbers and what has happened to them. Some are no longer with us. Barry > C has that information as well. > > Does anyone know what happened to the 680FL with the Mr RPM conversion that > the State of New Mexico was trying to sell? I think it was 4141S. The > Governor is looking for a Jet to replace it. NM has owned it for 30+ years > and put over 12,000 hours on it. I saw the plane in Santa Fe last fall when > there was a sealed bid. It went to bid twice. > > Ray, Your problem with MP is a very small leak somewhere in the system. > >From what you have tried, I would suggest looking at the upper deck pressure > tubing to the injectors like NW Commander suggested. They have put a lot of > hours on MR RPM Commanders over a lot of years. They fly them on Forest > Service contracts each summer. > > Tom, are you going to post some photos of your Twin Commander? Does it > still have the MAD boom? Photo can be posted at www.matronics.com . > > Tylor Hall > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > In a message dated 11-Apr-05 19:53:33 Pacific Daylight Time, > hcourier@cox.net > writes: > I just heard today that there are two versions of the Mr. RPM Conversion, > the > new one and the old one. Can anyone tell me the difference. > Ray, > > I'm not as current on what Mr. RPM is up to these days (JimBob and Tylor > Hall > are more so) but this is the first I've heard of "old" and "new" > conversions. > > What I know to be true in the field is that there were full conversions > (with > bleed air and 5606 hydraulic fluid changes) and some just had the engines > done and kept Skydrol. > > But I know that MR. RPM has been working on improved RayJays, intercoolers > and auto-waste gates. Maybe that's the "new" conversion, although I don't > know > if any have been done yet. > > Wing Commander Gordon > > > Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:56 AM PST US From: Jim Hasler Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: Jim Hasler I bought N800AC from Aircenter last March 2004 and as of this April 2005 I am still trying to get it operational. I therefore own a Commander but have yet to get to fly it. I am about ready to get rid of it because of all the problems I have had. Jim Hasler ...... Original Message ....... On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:44:43 +0100 "Barry Collman" wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > >Hi Rob, > >I don't know how many people are on the list. >Is there a way to find out? >Will "commander-list@matronics.com" tell us if we ask? > >But, a gut feeling is that about 90-95% own a Commander. Some own more than one! > >Trouble is, we have no way of knowing who is 'subscribed', but is purely a >'lurker' and has never made a posting to the list. So come on all you Commander >"wannabe's" - show yourselves!! > >Best Regards, >Barry > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List > > >| --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com >| >| In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:23:04 AM Central Standard Time, >| barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes: >| > Hi Moe, et al, >| > >| > Are we 'talking' about chatlist subscribers or Flight Group Members? >| > >| > I haven't got a list for either, but I hope Jimbob has for Members! >| >| Hello, Barry >| Could you please give me an idea of how many of us aero commander folks are >| on this list and how many aircraft do we own? >| Thanks, >| Rob >| >| >| >| >| >| >| >| >| -- >| >| > > >-- > > Thanks, Jim Hasler ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:44 AM PST US From: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" OK. Geez, Bilbo, I was just in Clermont last Saturday. ___________________________ Deneal Schilmeister (pilot-operator, not owner) Ex 560F, 680V, 690A 500B, 500S, 690A St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Barry Collman Trouble is, we have no way of knowing who is 'subscribed', but is purely a 'lurker' and has never made a posting to the list. So come on all you Commander "wannabe's" - show yourselves!! ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:26:32 AM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" What model of Commander? Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hasler" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List > --> Commander-List message posted by: Jim Hasler > > I bought N800AC from Aircenter last March 2004 and as of this April 2005 I > am still trying to get it operational. I therefore own a Commander but have > yet to get to fly it. I am about ready to get rid of it because of all the > problems I have had. > > > Jim Hasler > > ...... Original Message ....... > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:44:43 +0100 "Barry Collman" > wrote: > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > > > >Hi Rob, > > > >I don't know how many people are on the list. > >Is there a way to find out? > >Will "commander-list@matronics.com" tell us if we ask? > > > >But, a gut feeling is that about 90-95% own a Commander. Some own more > than one! > > > >Trouble is, we have no way of knowing who is 'subscribed', but is purely a > >'lurker' and has never made a posting to the list. So come on all you > Commander > >"wannabe's" - show yourselves!! > > > >Best Regards, > >Barry > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: > >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List > > > > > >| --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com > >| > >| In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:23:04 AM Central Standard Time, > >| barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes: > >| > Hi Moe, et al, > >| > > >| > Are we 'talking' about chatlist subscribers or Flight Group Members? > >| > > >| > I haven't got a list for either, but I hope Jimbob has for Members! > >| > >| Hello, Barry > >| Could you please give me an idea of how many of us aero commander folks > are > >| on this list and how many aircraft do we own? > >| Thanks, > >| Rob > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| -- > >| > >| > > > > > >-- > > > > > > Thanks, > > Jim Hasler > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:03 AM PST US From: AVIATION GROUP Subject: Commander-List: Aviation News aeroelectric-list@matronics.com, pietenpol-list@matronics.com --> Commander-List message posted by: AVIATION GROUP AVIATION News Group is to view & share your valuable comments and the latest trends and happenings in the aviation industry. Please click on the attached yahoo group link site to share & receive the updates on the latest happenings, business ventures, business opportunities, Air Shows and Exhibitions, New Aircraft releases, and certifications, Career news, Appointments etc. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AVIATION-NEWS/ Please take few moments recommend us to your near & dears in the industry. We welcome your valuable comments and updates. With best regards AVIATION NEWS. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AVIATION-NEWS/ --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:40 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com In a message dated 4/12/2005 10:27:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: What model of Commander? Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM C-GISS Landings has it listed as follows: N-number : N800ACAircraft Serial Number : 500A-1193-65 Aircraft Manufacturer : AERO COMMANDER Model : _500-A_ (http://www8.landings.com/cgi-bin/nph-search_ac?pass=71937893&pattern1=0141104&fld_nr1=0) Engine Manufacturer : CONT MOTOR Model : _I0-470 SERIES_ (http://www8.landings.com/cgi-bin/nph-search_eng?pass=71937893&pattern1=17027&fld_nr1=0) Aircraft Year : 1962 Owner Name : HASLER AVIATION LLC Owner Address : 7458 SW 223RD ST TRIMBLE, MO, 64492-7854 Type of Owner : Corporation Registration Date : 06-May-2004 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Airpark LL22 Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:54 AM PST US From: RRamm52@cs.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com In a message dated 4/12/2005 10:16:36 AM Central Standard Time, jhasler@gte.net writes: > I bought N800AC from Aircenter last March 2004 and as of this April 2005 I > am still trying to get it operational. I therefore own a Commander but have > yet to get to fly it. I am about ready to get rid of it because of all the > problems I have had. > > > Jim Hasler Jim, What kind of problems? Maybe another opinion is needed? Thanks, Rob ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:18 AM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Well, I am most assuredly a "WANNA BE" we use to own a few, wish we had one now. Bert ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:10 AM PST US From: "Jim Hasler" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Hasler" It is a 1962 500A with Coleman 300's. Jim H. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" What model of Commander? Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hasler" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List > --> Commander-List message posted by: Jim Hasler > > I bought N800AC from Aircenter last March 2004 and as of this April 2005 I > am still trying to get it operational. I therefore own a Commander but have > yet to get to fly it. I am about ready to get rid of it because of all the > problems I have had. > > > Jim Hasler > > ...... Original Message ....... > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:44:43 +0100 "Barry Collman" > wrote: > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > > > >Hi Rob, > > > >I don't know how many people are on the list. > >Is there a way to find out? > >Will "commander-list@matronics.com" tell us if we ask? > > > >But, a gut feeling is that about 90-95% own a Commander. Some own more > than one! > > > >Trouble is, we have no way of knowing who is 'subscribed', but is purely a > >'lurker' and has never made a posting to the list. So come on all you > Commander > >"wannabe's" - show yourselves!! > > > >Best Regards, > >Barry > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: > >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List > > > > > >| --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com > >| > >| In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:23:04 AM Central Standard Time, > >| barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes: > >| > Hi Moe, et al, > >| > > >| > Are we 'talking' about chatlist subscribers or Flight Group Members? > >| > > >| > I haven't got a list for either, but I hope Jimbob has for Members! > >| > >| Hello, Barry > >| Could you please give me an idea of how many of us aero commander folks > are > >| on this list and how many aircraft do we own? > >| Thanks, > >| Rob > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| > >| -- > >| > >| > > > > > >-- > > > > > > Thanks, > > Jim Hasler > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:36 AM PST US From: "Jim Hasler" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Hasler" Avionics. I had all new or rebuilt put in and Aircenter had a group working on it who did not know what they were doing in Chattanooga. I have it at King in KC now and it is just taking time to find all the miss-wires, broken instruments and missing wires. I am also going to have to have the new panel redone because you can't even see all of the instruments due to poor placement. Jim Hasler -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RRamm52@cs.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com In a message dated 4/12/2005 10:16:36 AM Central Standard Time, jhasler@gte.net writes: > I bought N800AC from Aircenter last March 2004 and as of this April 2005 I > am still trying to get it operational. I therefore own a Commander but have > yet to get to fly it. I am about ready to get rid of it because of all the > problems I have had. > > > Jim Hasler Jim, What kind of problems? Maybe another opinion is needed? Thanks, Rob ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:04 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" If we go to this web page how do we find the pilots/ chat members/ members list? Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > Hi Moe, et al, > > Are we 'talking' about chatlist subscribers or Flight Group Members? > > I haven't got a list for either, but I hope Jimbob has for Members! > > There was a sort of list, started on the old website. It can still be accessed, > as follows, but it needs input from everybody: > > Go to www.aerocommander.com/ > Click on 'Library' > Click on 'Web Archive', and "The Aero Commander Site" page loads > (www.aerocommander.com/index4.html) > Scroll down to the very bottom and click on "Twin Commander Owners Internet > Registry" (www.aerocommander.com/Documents/owners.html) > > But, silly me, it cannot be added to I don't think!! > > Perhaps Chris Wall can instigate a newer facility? > > Very Best Regards, > Barry Collman > UK CommanderLand Rep. > High Wycombe, England > "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moe" > To: > Subject: Commander-List: Membership List > > > registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what part > of the world they are from? straight > while reading the posts. everyone who > wanted to could type in the info. > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:27 AM PST US From: "Avtec2" Subject: Commander-List: Membership list --> Commander-List message posted by: "Avtec2" N47RR 1964 680FLP MR RPM N345PS 1963 680FP (IGSO-540-B1C) N6217B 1958 680S (GO480-B1A6) N818B 1957 680S (GO480-B1A6) N521W 1960 560E (GO480-G1B6) N666ZM 1957 560E (GO480-G1B6) Harry Merritt 321 267-3141 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:12 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" I was too. :>) bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Membership List > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" > > > OK. > > Geez, Bilbo, I was just in Clermont last Saturday. > > > ___________________________ > Deneal Schilmeister (pilot-operator, not owner) > Ex 560F, 680V, 690A > 500B, 500S, 690A > St. Louis - Cincinnati > 1997 SL500 > http://homepage.mac.com/deneals > > -----Original Message----- > On Behalf Of Barry Collman > > Trouble is, we have no way of knowing who is 'subscribed', but is purely a > 'lurker' and has never made a posting to the list. So come on all you > Commander > "wannabe's" - show yourselves!! > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:12 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" When the Commander web site was maintained by Chris Schuerman there was a list there, but that was the old days when the site was maintained. bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Membership List > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > J.B., Barry (or anyone), > > Is there a "membership list" available which lists the members, their > registration number, and what type of Commander they have and perhaps what > part of the world they are from? > > Sorry, my memory is so bad that I can't keep the cast of characters > straight while reading the posts. > > If no such list exists, perhaps we could post a spread sheet and everyone > who wanted to could type in the info. > > Regards, > Moe Mills > N680RR > 680F(p) > HHR > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:13 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Hmmmmmmmmm Aircenter,,,,,,,,,Imagine that. bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hasler" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List > --> Commander-List message posted by: Jim Hasler > > I bought N800AC from Aircenter last March 2004 and as of this April 2005 I > am still trying to get it operational. I therefore own a Commander but > have > yet to get to fly it. I am about ready to get rid of it because of all the > problems I have had. > > > Jim Hasler > > ...... Original Message ....... > On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:44:43 +0100 "Barry Collman" > wrote: >>--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > >> >>Hi Rob, >> >>I don't know how many people are on the list. >>Is there a way to find out? >>Will "commander-list@matronics.com" tell us if we ask? >> >>But, a gut feeling is that about 90-95% own a Commander. Some own more > than one! >> >>Trouble is, we have no way of knowing who is 'subscribed', but is purely a >>'lurker' and has never made a posting to the list. So come on all you > Commander >>"wannabe's" - show yourselves!! >> >>Best Regards, >>Barry >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: >>To: >>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List >> >> >>| --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com >>| >>| In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:23:04 AM Central Standard Time, >>| barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes: >>| > Hi Moe, et al, >>| > >>| > Are we 'talking' about chatlist subscribers or Flight Group Members? >>| > >>| > I haven't got a list for either, but I hope Jimbob has for Members! >>| >>| Hello, Barry >>| Could you please give me an idea of how many of us aero commander folks > are >>| on this list and how many aircraft do we own? >>| Thanks, >>| Rob >>| >>| >>| >>| >>| >>| >>| >>| >>| -- >>| >>| >> >> >>-- >> >> > > Thanks, > > Jim Hasler > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:30 PM PST US From: RRamm52@cs.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com In a message dated 4/12/2005 11:25:06 AM Central Standard Time, jhasler@gte.net writes: > Avionics. I had all new or rebuilt put in and Aircenter had a group working > on it who did not know what they were doing in Chattanooga. I have it at > King in KC now and it is just taking time to find all the miss-wires, broken > instruments and missing wires. I am also going to have to have the new panel > redone because you can't even see all of the instruments due to poor > placement. > > Jim Hasler Thats a shame, Jim Thats a heck of a fine aircraft to be sitting.... Rob ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:28 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:15:06 -0500 --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" JH, AIRCENTER INC. WHERE HAVE I HEARD THAT NAME BEFORE? MASON ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Hasler To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Hasler" > Avionics. I had all new or rebuilt put in and Aircenter had a group working on it who did not know what they were doing in Chattanooga. I have it at King in KC now and it is just taking time to find all the miss-wires, broken instruments and missing wires. I am also going to have to have the new panel redone because you can't even see all of the instruments due to poor placement. Jim Hasler -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RRamm52@cs.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Membership List --> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com In a message dated 4/12/2005 10:16:36 AM Central Standard Time, jhasler@gte.net writes: > I bought N800AC from Aircenter last March 2004 and as of this April 2005 I > am still trying to get it operational. I therefore own a Commander but have > yet to get to fly it. I am about ready to get rid of it because of all the > problems I have had. > > > Jim Hasler Jim, What kind of problems? Maybe another opinion is needed? Thanks, Rob ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:30 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Commander-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Tom Fisher Lists: Commander-List Subject: 680FLP Mr.RPM http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca.04.12.2005/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:47 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Tom, NICE! I think you'll really be impressed with the 680FLP. All the comfort of a 685 without the need for a 7,000 foot runway ;-). /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Email List Photo Shares" Subject: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! > --> Commander-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares > > > A new Email List Photo Share is available: > > Poster: Tom Fisher > > Lists: Commander-List > > Subject: 680FLP Mr.RPM > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca.04.12.2005/index.html > > > o Main Photo Share Index > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > o Submitting a Photo Share > > If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the > following information along with your email message and files: > > 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: > 2) Your Full Name: > 3) Your Email Address: > 4) One line Subject description: > 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: > 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: > > Email the information above and your files and photos to: > > pictures@matronics.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1058 (20050412) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1058 (20050412) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:11 PM PST US From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" I am glad to see it in good hands. They had an inflated idea of value the first time. Other than run out engines, props run out, interior shot, no paint, A/P inop, it was in great condition. It even had a Garmon 430 ( it may have been the only avionics that worked). They used it a lot. But with lots of TLC, it will fly on. Tylor Hall Subject: Re: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg G'day Tylor, 1414S was purchased at auction for an absolute steal of a price...created some fuss in New Mexico newspapers. Has been fitted out with ferry tanks in Ca over the past few weeks and is due to arrive in Oz soon. Regards from Oz Russell On 12/4/05 6:08 PM, "Barry Collman" wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > > Hi Tylor, > > N1414S had a test flight in the USA last week, so could now be on its way to > Australia, where Steve Nott's General Aviation Maintenance Pty Ltd will > operate > it. > > They are the Oz equivalent of John Towner's Central Air, with about 30 > Commanders, Most are 500S, with a sprinkling of 680FL, 500B, 681, 690 and > 690A. > > Best Regards, > Barry Collman > UK CommanderLand Rep. > High Wycombe, England > "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tylor.hall" > To: > Subject: RE: Commander-List: Mr RPM Conversion-680FLP > > > waste the pushed a the Barry that years when pressure lot of Conversion, engines intercoolers don't > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:19 PM PST US From: "Jim Addington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" NICE!!!!! air plane Tom, it is a beauty. Jim N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Email List Photo Shares Subject: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Commander-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Tom Fisher Lists: Commander-List Subject: 680FLP Mr.RPM http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca.04. 12.2005/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:33 PM PST US From: "tylor.hall" Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" Tom, What a great airplane! I wonder how many line boys forget about a Boom in the back? Good looking paint job! Tylor Hall Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" NICE!!!!! air plane Tom, it is a beauty. Jim N444BD -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Email List Photo Shares Subject: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Commander-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Tom Fisher Lists: Commander-List Subject: 680FLP Mr.RPM http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca.04. 12.2005/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:58 PM PST US From: "Lowell Girod" Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" Tom; Very nice Commander. Know you are happy to be back flying Commanders again, keep this one dry! Don > [Original Message] > From: tylor.hall > To: > Date: 4/12/2005 11:42:19 PM > Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" > > Tom, > What a great airplane! > I wonder how many line boys forget about a Boom in the back? > Good looking paint job! > Tylor Hall > > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share > Available! > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" > > > NICE!!!!! air plane Tom, it is a beauty. > > Jim > N444BD > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Email > List Photo Shares > To: Email List Photo Shares > Subject: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share > Available! > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares > > > > A new Email List Photo Share is available: > > Poster: Tom Fisher > > Lists: Commander-List > > Subject: 680FLP Mr.RPM > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca.04. > 12.2005/index.html > > > o Main Photo Share Index > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > o Submitting a Photo Share > > If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the > following information along with your email message and files: > > 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: > 2) Your Full Name: > 3) Your Email Address: > 4) One line Subject description: > 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: > 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: > > Email the information above and your files and photos to: > > pictures@matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:50 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Mmmmmmmmmm, thanks for all the nice comments, yes the inside will stay dry. Tom F. 680FLP Mr.RPM C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Girod" Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > Tom; > Very nice Commander. > Know you are happy to be back flying Commanders again, keep this one dry! > > Don > > > > [Original Message] > > From: tylor.hall > > To: > > Date: 4/12/2005 11:42:19 PM > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share > Available! > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" > > > > > Tom, > > What a great airplane! > > I wonder how many line boys forget about a Boom in the back? > > Good looking paint job! > > Tylor Hall > > > > > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share > > Available! > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" > > > > > > NICE!!!!! air plane Tom, it is a beauty. > > > > Jim > > N444BD > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Email > > List Photo Shares > > To: Email List Photo Shares > > Subject: Commander-List: [ Tom Fisher ] : New Email List Photo Share > > Available! > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares > > > > > > > > A new Email List Photo Share is available: > > > > Poster: Tom Fisher > > > > Lists: Commander-List > > > > Subject: 680FLP Mr.RPM > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca.04. > > 12.2005/index.html > > > > > > o Main Photo Share Index > > > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > > > o Submitting a Photo Share > > > > If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include > the > > following information along with your email message and files: > > > > 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: > > 2) Your Full Name: > > 3) Your Email Address: > > 4) One line Subject description: > > 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: > > 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: > > > > Email the information above and your files and photos to: > > > > pictures@matronics.com > > > > > >