---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/25/05:15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:01 AM - Re: Performance charts (Kevin Coons) 2. 07:34 AM - Fort Lauderdale (Barry Collman) 3. 07:55 AM - Re: Fort Lauderdale () 4. 08:04 AM - Re: Fort Lauderdale (Barry Collman) 5. 09:34 AM - N634Ct, N222ME (mike floyd) 6. 11:25 AM - Re: N634Ct, N222ME (Barry Collman) 7. 11:35 AM - Listing of Commander Folks (Larry Wokral) 8. 12:16 PM - Re: N634Ct, N222ME (mike floyd) 9. 02:40 PM - Re: Fort Lauderdale (Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)) 10. 02:43 PM - Re: Fort Lauderdale (bertberry1@aol.com) 11. 02:53 PM - Re: Fort Lauderdale (Barry Collman) 12. 03:21 PM - Re: Fort Lauderdale (Tom Fisher) 13. 03:23 PM - Re: Fort Lauderdale (BertBerry1@aol.com) 14. 05:01 PM - Re: Fort Lauderdale (Moe) 15. 05:49 PM - Re: Fort Lauderdale (Deneal Schilmeister (iMac)) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:56 AM PST US From: "Kevin Coons" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Performance charts --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kevin Coons" Bill, I have flown normally aspirated commanders out of fields in Colorado at 7,000 feet elevation. I would encourage you not to consider 14,000. I was well under gross and used 6,000 feet of runway on a cool morning. I got about 20 inches of MP and it was a very long takeoff roll. At 14,000 you would have no margin for error. Lose an engine and you will not hold altitude. The next time you fly 69PT take it up to 14,000 and see what type of performance you get. I believe you will be hard pressed to get 200 feet per minute. Hope all is well with you and your family. Kevin Coons -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of barshalom@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Performance charts --> Commander-List message posted by: barshalom@aol.com Anybody out there have any suggestions as to where to obtain takeoff/landing performance charts/tables for a stock 500B at field elevations up to 14,000 feet? Bill N69PT ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:05 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Guys, Since January 2003, I've been getting reports of a Dominican-registered Commander at Fort Lauderdale Executive airport, marked as HI-775SP. So far, it has defied being positively identified. Could be it's located in an area where 'spotters' cannot get access, otherwise I'm sure one of them will have read the c/n plate. So, do we have anyone in the area who could posibly check this one out for me? If the plate cannot be read, at least a photo will help to identify the Model perhaps. Thanks! Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" -- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:14 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: Barry, I saw this plane at Executive Airport in March 2004 while flying a plane out of Banyan Air Service. Executive has many little areas where it is difficult to see. I saw this airplane parked in an out of the way area while driving to their maint. area. Left hand side of the road through a fence about mid way from the main highway to the Banyan shop. Sorry, I can't be more specific. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Subject: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Guys, Since January 2003, I've been getting reports of a Dominican-registered Commander at Fort Lauderdale Executive airport, marked as HI-775SP. So far, it has defied being positively identified. Could be it's located in an area where 'spotters' cannot get access, otherwise I'm sure one of them will have read the c/n plate. So, do we have anyone in the area who could posibly check this one out for me? If the plate cannot be read, at least a photo will help to identify the Model perhaps. Thanks! Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:06 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Thanks Kevin. At least, it will give any prospective 'snoopers' a good chance of locating it! No idea on whether it was a Short body or Long body Model? Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RE: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale | --> Commander-List message posted by: | | Barry, | | I saw this plane at Executive Airport in March 2004 while flying a plane out | of Banyan Air Service. Executive has many little areas where it is difficult | to see. I saw this airplane parked in an out of the way area while driving | to their maint. area. Left hand side of the road through a fence about mid | way from the main highway to the Banyan shop. | | Sorry, I can't be more specific. | | Kevin | | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com | [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry | Collman | To: commander-list@matronics.com | Subject: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale | | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" | | | Hi Guys, | | Since January 2003, I've been getting reports of a Dominican-registered | Commander at Fort Lauderdale Executive airport, marked as HI-775SP. | So far, it has defied being positively identified. Could be it's located in | an | area where 'spotters' cannot get access, otherwise I'm sure one of them will | | have read the c/n plate. | | So, do we have anyone in the area who could posibly check this one out for | me? | If the plate cannot be read, at least a photo will help to identify the | Model | perhaps. | | Thanks! | | Best Regards, | Barry Collman | UK CommanderLand Rep. | High Wycombe, England | "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" | | | -- | | | | | | | | | -- | | -- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:02 AM PST US From: "mike floyd" Subject: Commander-List: N634Ct, N222ME --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" Hi Barry, There will be at least one Commander here. Maybe 5 it is hard to say what might be here. On the other side of the field is Executive Flight they have some 690's that are outfitted as air ambulance. Mike Commander NW LTD ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:25:29 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: N634Ct, N222ME --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Thanks Mike. We'll certainly try to get to Wenatchee again. I'm sure did last time, but pretty well everything was closed for the day. If I recall correctly, it was raining too! Are Executive Flight in a fairly modern-looking building, virtually on it's own? Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike floyd" Subject: Commander-List: N634Ct, N222ME | --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" | | Hi Barry, | There will be at least one Commander here. Maybe 5 it is hard to say what | might be here. | On the other side of the field is Executive Flight they have some 690's that | are outfitted as air ambulance. | | Mike | Commander NW LTD | | | | | | | | | -- | | -- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:58 AM PST US From: "Larry Wokral" Subject: Commander-List: Listing of Commander Folks --> Commander-List message posted by: "Larry Wokral" Moe, Here's my information for the Commander List Larry Wokral l.wokral@ix.netcom.com N12LW 500B Ravalli County, Hamilton, MT. (6S5) Merlyn 320 conversion Thanks, Larry ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:51 PM PST US From: "mike floyd" Subject: Re: Commander-List: N634Ct, N222ME --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" Sir Barry, Yes they are located on the other side of the field in a modern building. Mike ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:28 PM PST US From: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" If only I had read this earlier than at the present time. As I read this, I am sitting on an SWA 737-800 having just spent the weekend in Ft Lauderdale, now heading back to St Louis. I would have loved to have had a "project" whilst in FXE. ___________________________ Deneal Schilmeister St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Barry Collman --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Guys, Since January 2003, I've been getting reports of a Dominican-registered Commander at Fort Lauderdale Executive airport, marked as HI-775SP. So far, it has defied being positively identified. Could be it's located in an area where 'spotters' cannot get access, otherwise I'm sure one of them will have read the c/n plate. So, do we have anyone in the area who could posibly check this one out for me? If the plate cannot be read, at least a photo will help to identify the Model perhaps. Thanks! Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" -- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:44 PM PST US From: bertberry1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com New Ad -----Original Message----- From: Barry Collman Subject: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Guys, Since January 2003, I've been getting reports of a Dominican-registered Commander at Fort Lauderdale Executive airport, marked as HI-775SP. So far, it has defied being positively identified. Could be it's located in an area where 'spotters' cannot get access, otherwise I'm sure one of them will have read the c/n plate. So, do we have anyone in the area who could posibly check this one out for me? If the plate cannot be read, at least a photo will help to identify the Model perhaps. Thanks! Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" -- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:53:18 PM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Oh well, perhaps next time? Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" | | If only I had read this earlier than at the present time. | As I read this, I am sitting on an SWA 737-800 having just spent the weekend | in Ft Lauderdale, now heading back to St Louis. | | I would have loved to have had a "project" whilst in FXE. | | | ___________________________ | Deneal Schilmeister | St. Louis - Cincinnati | 1997 SL500 | http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm | | -----Original Message----- | On Behalf Of Barry Collman | | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" | | | Hi Guys, | | Since January 2003, I've been getting reports of a Dominican-registered | Commander at Fort Lauderdale Executive airport, marked as HI-775SP. | So far, it has defied being positively identified. Could be it's located in | an | area where 'spotters' cannot get access, otherwise I'm sure one of them will | | have read the c/n plate. | | So, do we have anyone in the area who could posibly check this one out for | me? | If the plate cannot be read, at least a photo will help to identify the | Model | perhaps. | | Thanks! | | Best Regards, | Barry Collman | UK CommanderLand Rep. | High Wycombe, England | "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" | | | -- | | | | | | | | | -- | | -- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:21:03 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" New ad? Does this mean a new AD as in Airworthiness Directive? Or an advertisement of something somewhere? Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale > --> Commander-List message posted by: bertberry1@aol.com > > New Ad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Collman > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > > Hi Guys, > > Since January 2003, I've been getting reports of a Dominican-registered > Commander at Fort Lauderdale Executive airport, marked as HI-775SP. > So far, it has defied being positively identified. Could be it's located in an > area where 'spotters' cannot get access, otherwise I'm sure one of them will > have read the c/n plate. > > So, do we have anyone in the area who could posibly check this one out for me? > If the plate cannot be read, at least a photo will help to identify the Model > perhaps. > > Thanks! > > Best Regards, > Barry Collman > UK CommanderLand Rep. > High Wycombe, England > "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:56 PM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com My mistake, I was sending something to Sir Barry, had the wrong email open. But I do have a new 680FP Advertisement if anyone is interested. Bert ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:01:36 PM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Bert, As a 680F(p) driver I am interested in which ad you have. Moe N680RR ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale > --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com > > My mistake, I was sending something to Sir Barry, had the wrong email open. > But I do have a new 680FP Advertisement if anyone is interested. > > Bert > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fort Lauderdale From: "Deneal Schilmeister (iMac)" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (iMac)" On 4/25/05 4:53 PM, "Barry Collman" wrote: > Oh well, perhaps next time? I am there several times a year, and I have contacts at FXE. If this aircraft remains a mystery upon my next visit, I will be glad investigate for you and Commanderdom. -- Deneal Schilmeister ATP Learjet St. Louis, Missouri USA http://homepage.mac.com/deneals