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1. 10:12 AM - CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (BertBerry1@aol.com)
2. 10:26 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (Cory Emberson)
3. 10:41 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (CloudCraft@aol.com)
4. 10:41 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (John Vormbaum)
5. 11:14 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (Cory Emberson)
6. 11:19 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (BertBerry1@aol.com)
7. 11:24 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (BertBerry1@aol.com)
8. 11:29 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (nico css)
9. 11:29 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (BertBerry1@aol.com)
10. 11:37 AM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (Bill Bow)
11. 12:00 PM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (nico css)
12. 01:24 PM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (Deneal Schilmeister (Portege))
13. 01:35 PM - Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER (Brock Lorber)
14. 01:43 PM - public info 337DR (Deneal Schilmeister (Portege))
15. 09:59 PM - OSHKOSH (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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| Subject: | CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
CNN just showed a Crash landed Turbo Commander, sounds like the Pilot had a
heart attach and a passenger landed the Aircraft. Doesn't appear to be too much
damage other than a collapsed right main.
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| Subject: | CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
I saw reports of a Gulfstream One, if that's the one in Las Vegas.
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Subject: Commander-List: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER
--> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
CNN just showed a Crash landed Turbo Commander, sounds like the Pilot had a
heart attach and a passenger landed the Aircraft. Doesn't appear to be too
much
damage other than a collapsed right main.
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 06-May-05 10:26:58 Pacific Daylight Time,
bootless@earthlink.net writes:
I saw reports of a Gulfstream One, if that's the one in Las Vegas.
Typical news media bungle.
There is (was?) an AC-900 based at KVGT that occasionally operated on FAR 135
trips.
I learned of the accident last night and don't have much in the way of hard
facts.
The anecdote I was told was the pilot had a heart attack on approach, the
passenger had some glider time and took over.
I don't like passing on incomplete or inaccurate info; if I get more news,
I'll post is. Brock Lorber, N400CH, is based at KVGT and I'm sure he'll post a
detailed report to us.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Wow, I sure hope the pilot survived his medical crisis. Perfect example of
the value of a Pinch Hitter course for non-pilot passengers.
/J
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From: <BertBerry1@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER
> --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
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> CNN just showed a Crash landed Turbo Commander, sounds like the Pilot had
a
> heart attach and a passenger landed the Aircraft. Doesn't appear to be too
much
> damage other than a collapsed right main.
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| Subject: | CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Pinch hitting for sure, a preflight briefing at the least.
Here's the link to the story - it looks like it's written in phonetic
reporter-ese:
http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=3306810
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John
Vormbaum
Subject: Re: Commander-List: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Wow, I sure hope the pilot survived his medical crisis. Perfect example of
the value of a Pinch Hitter course for non-pilot passengers.
/J
----- Original Message -----
From: <BertBerry1@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER
> --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
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> CNN just showed a Crash landed Turbo Commander, sounds like the Pilot had
a
> heart attach and a passenger landed the Aircraft. Doesn't appear to be too
much
> damage other than a collapsed right main.
>
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
Looks like a 1000, has the small windows down each side.
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
It looks like N337DR S/N 15007 from Las Vegas, NV. Not sure but I have some
photos of it, and they look like the same paint job.
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Got this off the news wires. Apparently the pilot has died.
Nico
NORTH LAS VEGAS, Nev. (AP) - A passenger was forced to crash land a private
plane Thursday after the pilot suffered an apparent heart attack,
authorities said.
The pilot later died. The two passengers were taken to University Medical
Center in Las Vegas after the crash at North Las Vegas Airport, said Donn
Walker, regional spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration.
The plane was registered to Douglas Reichardt of Henderson, who was piloting
the twin-engine Gulfstream I turboprop. A hospital official didn't know
whether Reichardt died in the air or later at the hospital.
The two passengers did not appear to be seriously hurt, authorities said.
Their names were not immediately released.
The pilot had filed a flight plan to San Diego and the plane took off from
North Las Vegas at 8:30 a.m., Walker said. About 45 minutes later, the plane
crashed on its belly several hundred feet short of an airport runway. The
pilot is believed to have suffered a heart attack, Walker said.
The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board are investigating the
crash.
Reichardt had a valid multiengine airline transport pilot's license,
according to FAA records.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 06-May-05 10:26:58 Pacific Daylight Time,
> bootless@earthlink.net writes:
> I saw reports of a Gulfstream One, if that's the one in Las Vegas.
>
> Typical news media bungle.
>
> There is (was?) an AC-900 based at KVGT that occasionally operated on FAR
135
> trips.
>
> I learned of the accident last night and don't have much in the way of
hard
> facts.
>
> The anecdote I was told was the pilot had a heart attack on approach, the
> passenger had some glider time and took over.
>
> I don't like passing on incomplete or inaccurate info; if I get more news,
> I'll post is. Brock Lorber, N400CH, is based at KVGT and I'm sure he'll
post a
> detailed report to us.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
> Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
Here is a photo of N337DR.
http://www.air-and-space.com/20040924%20SBA/DSC_4077%20Aero%20Commander%20695A
%20N337DR%20left%20side%20landing%20l.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
It's a Commander http://www.aero-news.net/
bilbo
----- Original Message -----
From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 06-May-05 10:26:58 Pacific Daylight Time,
> bootless@earthlink.net writes:
> I saw reports of a Gulfstream One, if that's the one in Las Vegas.
>
> Typical news media bungle.
>
> There is (was?) an AC-900 based at KVGT that occasionally operated on FAR
> 135
> trips.
>
> I learned of the accident last night and don't have much in the way of
> hard
> facts.
>
> The anecdote I was told was the pilot had a heart attack on approach, the
> passenger had some glider time and took over.
>
> I don't like passing on incomplete or inaccurate info; if I get more news,
> I'll post is. Brock Lorber, N400CH, is based at KVGT and I'm sure he'll
> post a
> detailed report to us.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
> Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Couldn't get the link to open. I updated it:
http://www.air-and-space.com/20040924%20SBA/DSC_4077%20Aero%20Commander%20695A%20N337DR%20left%20side%20landing%20l.jpg
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: <BertBerry1@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER
> --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
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> Here is a photo of N337DR.
>
>
http://www.air-and-space.com/20040924%20SBA/DSC_4077%20Aero%20Commander%20695A
> %20N337DR%20left%20side%20landing%20l.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" <deneals@sbcglobal.net>
http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/I_0506_N.txt
___________________________
Deneal Schilmeister
St. Louis - Cincinnati
1997 SL500
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
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BertBerry1@aol.com
BertBerry1@aol.com
Looks like a 1000, has the small windows down each side.
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| Subject: | Re: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber" <blorber@vegasfc.com>
It is 337DR (a Commander 1000). Doug and Floyd Duncan have it on a 135 certificate.
I was supposed to start flying with Doug last week, but the trip got canceled.
Doug owned several McDonalds restraunts in Henderson, NV and started the
Ronald McDonald house in Las Vegas. I haven't heard any reports from the horse's
mouth, but here's what eyewitnesses saw:
The aircraft declared a medical emergency while on the edge of town. (Local news
said Doug lost consciousness soon after). A non-pilot passenger took control,
and found his way back to VGT. After circling the field four times, he attempted
a landing (gear down, aligned with the parallels, but unstable). The airplane
approached a restaurant and C-store on the appoach end of the runway in
a nose-down attitude. At the last second (I heard as close as 50' to the restaraunt),
the nose pitched up, and the airplane began that sickening waddle they
get just before stall-spin. It plunged from an altitude just high enough that
it landed flat without hitting a wingtip.
After sliding a few feet with a three-quarter turn it came to rest about 75' shy
of the runway. Doug died of the heart attack, and the two passengers were taken
to the hospital with minor injuries.
Notes: the main gear struts sheared off inside the housing, without breaking or
cracking either overcenter lock. And the biggie: take the smartest, most able,
non-pilot you know, give him two glider rides, and hand him the controls of
your Commander to land it. Do you think you'd walk away as they did? Amazing!
Brock Lorber
400CH
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From: CloudCraft@aol.com
To:commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: CRASH LANDED TURBO COMMANDER
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 06-May-05 10:26:58 Pacific Daylight Time,
bootless@earthlink.net writes:
I saw reports of a Gulfstream One, if that's the one in Las Vegas.
Typical news media bungle.
There is (was?) an AC-900 based at KVGT that occasionally operated on FAR 135
trips.
I learned of the accident last night and don't have much in the way of hard
facts.
The anecdote I was told was the pilot had a heart attack on approach, the
passenger had some glider time and took over.
I don't like passing on incomplete or inaccurate info; if I get more news,
I'll post is. Brock Lorber, N400CH, is based at KVGT and I'm sure he'll post a
detailed report to us.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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| Subject: | public info 337DR |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" <deneals@sbcglobal.net>
N337DR is Assigned
Assigned/Registered Aircraft
Aircraft Description
Serial Number 15007 Type Registration
Individual
Manufacturer Name GULFSTREAM AM CORP COMM DIV
Certificate Issue Date 04/04/2000
Model 695A Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Multi-Engine Type Engine
Turbo-Prop
Pending Number Change None Dealer
No
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code
50730053
MFR Year 1982 Fractional Owner
NO
Registered Owner
Name REICHARDT DOUGLAS R
Street 2213 N GREEN VALLEY PKWY STE 201
City HENDERSON State NEVADA Zip
Code
89014-5078
County CLARK
Country UNITED STATES
___________________________
Deneal Schilmeister
St. Louis - Cincinnati
1997 SL500
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
I spoke with Dick Macoon today (Mr. RPM) and was thrilled to hear
that the most gorgeous Shrike on the planet, belonging to TCFG member Mike
Wetzer, will be on display at OKS. He has invited all Commander lovers to visit.
There will be a place to sit in the shade and to exchange information. I
will try to attend. This is a wonderful opportunity to have a Commander at
center stage and for us to have a place to hang out. More details when they
become available. jb
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