---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/13/05:8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:53 AM - Re: One hydraulic system (Avtec2) 2. 06:31 AM - Re: One hydraulic system (Tom Fisher) 3. 08:10 AM - Re: One hydraulic system (YOURTCFG@AOL.COM) 4. 08:50 AM - Re: One hydraulic system (CloudCraft@AOL.COM) 5. 09:17 AM - Re: One hydraulic system (nico css) 6. 04:48 PM - Jimmy! (Bill Bow) 7. 05:40 PM - Re: One hydraulic system (Tom Fisher) 8. 05:59 PM - Re: One hydraulic system (Jerry Sprayberry) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:02 AM PST US From: "Avtec2" Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system --> Commander-List message posted by: "Avtec2" Tom i have a Good Pump for the IGSO-540-B1A or C Harry. $4000.00 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Commander-List: One hydraulic system > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > What are your opinions on someone flying knowingly with one hydraulic > system > unserviceable in a 680FLP? > The left system was not putting out so I pulled the pump and sent it off > only to be told the insides are trashed. > I called the previous owner about it and his response was "oh that never > worked and the right one cavatates occasionally". > > Tom F. > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:54 AM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Thanks but I am running the IO720s with Skydrol! Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avtec2" Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Avtec2" > > Tom i have a Good Pump for the IGSO-540-B1A or C > Harry. > $4000.00 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" > To: > Subject: Commander-List: One hydraulic system > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > > > > What are your opinions on someone flying knowingly with one hydraulic > > system > > unserviceable in a 680FLP? > > The left system was not putting out so I pulled the pump and sent it off > > only to be told the insides are trashed. > > I called the previous owner about it and his response was "oh that never > > worked and the right one cavatates occasionally". > > > > Tom F. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:22 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 5/12/2005 9:18:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: What are your opinions on someone flying knowingly with one hydraulic system unserviceable in a 680FLP? It would "officially" require a ferry permit. Like WCG, I don't think it is a great idea. That said, I flew a 560A 800hr and it left the factory with only one pump, so?? jb ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:28 AM PST US From: CloudCraft@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 12-May-05 23:04:43 Pacific Daylight Time, john@vormbaum.com writes: > > Good heavens, Wing Commander.....do you speak from experience? Hath you flown a 680 under threat of what you mention? > > Well, to be totally accurate, they're weren't firing the machine guns, just pointing them. The rest is all true. Good work on your emergency gear extension procedure, by the way. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:36 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" My straight 500 had only one pump for as long as I had it. One day I allowed a non-commander (ATP) pilot to do a trip and in spite of my pre flight instructions about her specific care, such as always start the left engine first, he smartly started the right hand engine - no brakes. I was sprawled across the nose franticly trying to slow her down as I was being pushed in the direction of parked planes tied down across the taxiway. He had enough brains to shut the engine down again instead of trying to start the left engine. After that he must have paid attention to the owner's brief. I guess the notion that if a piece of equipment is installed and required, the plane is US if it doesn't work. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > In a message dated 5/12/2005 9:18:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: > > What are your opinions on someone flying knowingly with one hydraulic system > unserviceable in a 680FLP? > > > It would "officially" require a ferry permit. Like WCG, I don't think it is > a great idea. That said, I flew a 560A 800hr and it left the factory with > only one pump, so?? jb > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:17 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Commander-List: Jimmy! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Jimmy Rodriguez Where are you? I need your help. The e-mail just came back Jamesrodriguez@bppr.com bilbo ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:24 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" My opinion as well, now I am on the hunt for a Skydrol hydraulic pump. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system > --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > My straight 500 had only one pump for as long as I had it. One day I allowed > a non-commander (ATP) pilot to do a trip and in spite of my pre flight > instructions about her specific care, such as always start the left engine > first, he smartly started the right hand engine - no brakes. I was sprawled > across the nose franticly trying to slow her down as I was being pushed in > the direction of parked planes tied down across the taxiway. He had enough > brains to shut the engine down again instead of trying to start the left > engine. After that he must have paid attention to the owner's brief. > I guess the notion that if a piece of equipment is installed and required, > the plane is US if it doesn't work. > Nico > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > > > > In a message dated 5/12/2005 9:18:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: > > > > What are your opinions on someone flying knowingly with one hydraulic > system > > unserviceable in a 680FLP? > > > > > > It would "officially" require a ferry permit. Like WCG, I don't think it > is > > a great idea. That said, I flew a 560A 800hr and it left the factory > with > > only one pump, so?? jb > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:58 PM PST US From: "Jerry Sprayberry" Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry Sprayberry" Hi Tom and all: My .002 Cents worth. A hydraulic Pump doesn't care what it is pumping, 5606 or Skydrol, The only difference between the two is the O-Ring Seals are Special for Skydrol, and they should already be in all your Skydrol Hyd. Components. Capnspray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > My opinion as well, now I am on the hunt for a Skydrol hydraulic pump. > Tom F. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nico css" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > >> >> My straight 500 had only one pump for as long as I had it. One day I > allowed >> a non-commander (ATP) pilot to do a trip and in spite of my pre flight >> instructions about her specific care, such as always start the left >> engine >> first, he smartly started the right hand engine - no brakes. I was > sprawled >> across the nose franticly trying to slow her down as I was being pushed >> in >> the direction of parked planes tied down across the taxiway. He had >> enough >> brains to shut the engine down again instead of trying to start the left >> engine. After that he must have paid attention to the owner's brief. >> I guess the notion that if a piece of equipment is installed and >> required, >> the plane is US if it doesn't work. >> Nico >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Subject: Re: Commander-List: One hydraulic system >> >> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 5/12/2005 9:18:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> > tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: >> > >> > What are your opinions on someone flying knowingly with one hydraulic >> system >> > unserviceable in a 680FLP? >> > >> > >> > It would "officially" require a ferry permit. Like WCG, I don't think > it >> is >> > a great idea. That said, I flew a 560A 800hr and it left the factory >> with >> > only one pump, so?? jb >> > >> > >> >> > > >