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1. 03:46 PM - Bendix M4 Autopilot (Ray Mansfied)
2. 06:03 PM - "SIR" BARRY (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
3. 07:40 PM - Re: Bendix M4 Autopilot (tylor.hall)
4. 07:55 PM - Re: Skydrol or 5606? (Lowell Girod)
5. 08:08 PM - Re: Bendix M4 Autopilot (Jim Addington)
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Subject: | Bendix M4 Autopilot |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" <hcourier@cox.net>
Am looking for a Bendix M4 autopilot computer, model # 5536. Does anyone out there
have one to sell that works? My autopliot quit working quite a while ago.
One shop said it was beyond economical repair. Another shop, the guy's worked
on the M4s since 1961, said it could probably be repaired but needed the computer.
Let me know if you have one you are willing to sell and the price. I
fly a 680 FLP, thank you.
Ray Mansfield
hcourier@cox.net
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
HI KIDS.
I had the privilege of hosting the TCFG historian, Barry Collman at
our home this weekend. Barry and Chris Hagg are spending three weeks at TCAC
looking through the old records. They have uncovered some amazing tidbits.
Like, the first Commander to receive Pressurization was not the 720. A 520
was modified as far back as 1956 as a test bed for the new system.
We had a great time talking Commanders. We jumped in triple 2 and flew
to Scappoose Or. for lunch and flew the canyon rout back home. It was a
great afternoon.
Barry will be another week in Arlington. Hope al is well in your world.
jb
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Subject: | Bendix M4 Autopilot |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" <tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net>
Ray,
You may want to contact Moe Mills. He just took his M4 out of his 680FP.
He may be willing to part with parts and the manual. Make him an offer.
Tylor Hall
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" <hcourier@cox.net>
Am looking for a Bendix M4 autopilot computer, model # 5536. Does anyone
out there have one to sell that works? My autopliot quit working quite a
while ago. One shop said it was beyond economical repair. Another shop,
the guy's worked on the M4s since 1961, said it could probably be repaired
but needed the computer. Let me know if you have one you are willing to sell
and the price. I fly a 680 FLP, thank you.
Ray Mansfield
hcourier@cox.net
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Subject: | Re: Skydrol or 5606? |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" <dongirod@earthlink.net>
Commanderland;
Since everyone is talking about hydraulics, I have a question. My 560E
with its 1000-1200 PSI will not turn the nose wheel if the airplane is not
moving. Is this normal? Or do I have a problem and need to do something?
I normal just use differential power and or brakes, but it would be a
problem if I ever needed to taxi with only one engine.
Don
> [Original Message]
> From: <CloudCraft@aol.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 5/14/2005 12:05:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Skydrol or 5606?
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 14-May-05 08:46:34 Pacific Daylight Time,
> tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
> Any comments on changing to 5606?
> >
> A few ...
>
> 5606 or its equivalent is less caustic, cheaper and will give you
commonality
> throughout the airplane. (I saw one mechanic try to rebuild landing gear
> struts with Skydrol because the "rest of the airplane" used it. To my
> knowledge, only one Commander had Skydrol in the MLG struts and that was
Monsanto's
> Shrike -- and Monsanto makes Skydrol.)
>
> Changing isn't as easy as it sounds. The entire system has to be
thoroughly
> flushed a few times and although I used to think Skydrol seals and O
rings
> could be compatible with 5606, I've been told that's not true -- so
you'll have
> to change all of those.
>
> If you do that, you'll have an airplane that's not going to get paint
> stripped every time some (hydraulic) fluid drips or leaks, maintenance
technicians
> will be happier and you'll have a cheaper and more available fluid.
>
> To be fair, if you use Skydrol B, it's supposed to be less harmful than
the
> earlier version and it is used in lots of current production jets, so
it's not
> a rare as some would like to say.
>
> From an historical point of view, Skydrol was used on the 3000 psi
hydraulic
> Commanders (those with cabin superchargers) because of Skydrol's better
> flammability characteristics -- a consideration with the heat being
developed around
> that 3000 psi system and pressurization system. Since you have a Mr.
RPM
> with bleed air and no 3000 psi appliances, there is no operational need
for
> Skydrol.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
>
> Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
>
>
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Subject: | Bendix M4 Autopilot |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Ray,
I don't know what Mason Chevillier had in his, or the condition, but I know
he changed to a new one. He has a 680FP.
Jim Addington
N444BD
Subject: Commander-List: Bendix M4 Autopilot
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfied" <hcourier@cox.net>
Am looking for a Bendix M4 autopilot computer, model # 5536. Does anyone
out there have one to sell that works? My autopliot quit working quite a
while ago. One shop said it was beyond economical repair. Another shop,
the guy's worked on the M4s since 1961, said it could probably be repaired
but needed the computer. Let me know if you have one you are willing to sell
and the price. I fly a 680 FLP, thank you.
Ray Mansfield
hcourier@cox.net
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