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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 5/31/2005 3:49:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cschuerm@cox.net writes:
That would be interesting, but I'm no longer in control of the Commander
web site. I "loaned it" to Jim a couple years ago. He, Chris, and Dan
have been maintaining it since.
I don't currently have a good host to put a web site on or I'd probably
have done it by now.
HI CHRIS and all.....
Well, The negative comments of late regarding the state of the web-site have
not fallen on deaf ears. The concerns are legitimate. I have simply been
to busy to devote the time required to truly lead the Flight Group. While
"officially" retired, I operate a small maintenance facility at our local airport
and have done 5 annual inspections in the last 8 weeks. I also deliver
airplanes and have been very busy. I just returned from a 2100 km (Toronto CN
to
Visila CA) trip delivering a new "Bush Hawk" on amphibious floats.
That is only part of the story. Leading this group has proved to be more
difficult than herding frogs. When I purchased the group, (yes, I paid
$2000.00 for the mailing list after the group had gone completely dormant) I had
intended it to make a modest profit that would have allowed for the growth of
the organization. I had hoped (and worked diligently) in the beginning to grow
the group to a size that would have allowed for a "real" newsletter,
web-site and other services. That was not to be. Despite spending hundreds of
dollars and countless hours sending requests to join to virtually every Commander
owner, still almost little or no growth. This was echoed recently when John
Towner, the host of the 2004 fly-in in KC sent an invitation to attend the
event to EVERY registered Commander owner in the US. The attendance at the
event was only slightly above average (it was a GREAT event, thanks John!!).
Even now, most of the people currently on this chat list are not members of
the TCFG? Why? Some have inquired about joining, but few actually sent
money. I have asked several of those who I consider "true believers" what the
problem might be. Dues too high? Not enough information? No one seems to
know. I am close friends with the President of the Navion group. Of about 1000
airplanes flying, nearly 600 are members!! Imagine what our group would
look like with 500 members!! Wow!!
Over the years I have worked hard to maintain a quality group, but I cannot
do it alone. While everyone, including me, wants fresh and new material on
the web-site, who has offered to help? I have literally begged for articles
for the newsletter, who has sent any? (Barry Collman sure has, Thanks Barry)?
The "G" in TCFG stands for Group. I can't be a group of one.
There is another issue. While I may not be the highest time Commander pilot
on the list ( only 12,500TT, 1400 hrs in Commanders, flown all but 4 piston
models, including a 720) or the smartest Commander mechanic (only an A&P-IA 31
years) or owned the most Commanders (only 3), but I do have a LITTLE bit of
experience with these machines. I have grown weary of having the information
I share, some of it very important, being challenged by those with little
(or no) Commander experience. No sour grapes here, just frustration that
instead of listening and learning, everyone seems to be a "Commander Guru" when
they make their first solo flight in a Commander. Hence, I rarely post on the
chat list anymore (if you cant say anything nice......), although I still
read every post. (OK, sorry for whining:-)
I have concluded that Commanders are truly a unique airplane, surpassed only
by the uniqueness of their owners. Commander owners are simply, by and
large, not "clubby" people. They are individualists and don't run with a pack.
Nothing wrong with that!! But it makes an endeavor like this nearly
impossible. The future of the group is unclear. I am asking all of you what
you
want the TCFG to look like? Should it be a non-profit volunteer organization?
Run by a board of directors?? Is someone out there willing to buy it from
me and run it?? I am truly open to your suggestions. I have no hard
feelings and have no intention of closing the group, never! The work done behind
the scenes is to important. Every day I take calls and answer important
questions from owners, prospective owners, mechanics working on their first
Commander and even an occasional member. I will, until I am relieved, always
be
here to act as a liaison with the factory and the FAA. I have a good
relationship with both and have learned to really appreciate the importance of
having a
strong company like TCAC looking after our fleet. I will continue to plan
for this year's fly-in and hope it will be a great successes.
So, if you have any ideas for the future of our group (the handful of you on
this list who are actually members, or those who would join if there were
changes made), let's talk. I want this group to grow and become a vital
organization. Innuendos about "the good old days" won't be of any help. Be part
of the solution.
Jim Metzger Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
PS There really is a newsletter on the way very soon, thanks for your
patience.
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <Kamala@msn.com>
JM, WELL THERE YOU HAVE IT! THE GAUNTLET HAS BEEN THROWN DOWN. GOOD FOR YOU
JIM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS ANY THING I CAN DO TO HELP. YOU HAVE BEEN
A GREAT HELP TO ME PERSONALLY AND DO THE COMMANDER WORLD A TREMENDOUS SERVICE.
THANK YOU! MASON
----- Original Message -----
From: YOURTCFG@aol.com<mailto:YOURTCFG@aol.com>
To: commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: "THE fan"
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com<mailto:YOURTCFG@aol.com>
In a message dated 5/31/2005 3:49:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cschuerm@cox.net<mailto:cschuerm@cox.net> writes:
That would be interesting, but I'm no longer in control of the Commander
web site. I "loaned it" to Jim a couple years ago. He, Chris, and Dan
have been maintaining it since.
I don't currently have a good host to put a web site on or I'd probably
have done it by now.
HI CHRIS and all.....
Well, The negative comments of late regarding the state of the web-site have
not fallen on deaf ears. The concerns are legitimate. I have simply been
to busy to devote the time required to truly lead the Flight Group. While
"officially" retired, I operate a small maintenance facility at our local airport
and have done 5 annual inspections in the last 8 weeks. I also deliver
airplanes and have been very busy. I just returned from a 2100 km (Toronto
CN to
Visila CA) trip delivering a new "Bush Hawk" on amphibious floats.
That is only part of the story. Leading this group has proved to be more
difficult than herding frogs. When I purchased the group, (yes, I paid
$2000.00 for the mailing list after the group had gone completely dormant) I
had
intended it to make a modest profit that would have allowed for the growth of
the organization. I had hoped (and worked diligently) in the beginning to grow
the group to a size that would have allowed for a "real" newsletter,
web-site and other services. That was not to be. Despite spending hundreds
of
dollars and countless hours sending requests to join to virtually every Commander
owner, still almost little or no growth. This was echoed recently when John
Towner, the host of the 2004 fly-in in KC sent an invitation to attend the
event to EVERY registered Commander owner in the US. The attendance at the
event was only slightly above average (it was a GREAT event, thanks John!!).
Even now, most of the people currently on this chat list are not members of
the TCFG? Why? Some have inquired about joining, but few actually sent
money. I have asked several of those who I consider "true believers" what the
problem might be. Dues too high? Not enough information? No one seems to
know. I am close friends with the President of the Navion group. Of about
1000
airplanes flying, nearly 600 are members!! Imagine what our group would
look like with 500 members!! Wow!!
Over the years I have worked hard to maintain a quality group, but I cannot
do it alone. While everyone, including me, wants fresh and new material on
the web-site, who has offered to help? I have literally begged for articles
for the newsletter, who has sent any? (Barry Collman sure has, Thanks Barry)?
The "G" in TCFG stands for Group. I can't be a group of one.
There is another issue. While I may not be the highest time Commander pilot
on the list ( only 12,500TT, 1400 hrs in Commanders, flown all but 4 piston
models, including a 720) or the smartest Commander mechanic (only an A&P-IA
31
years) or owned the most Commanders (only 3), but I do have a LITTLE bit of
experience with these machines. I have grown weary of having the information
I share, some of it very important, being challenged by those with little
(or no) Commander experience. No sour grapes here, just frustration that
instead of listening and learning, everyone seems to be a "Commander Guru" when
they make their first solo flight in a Commander. Hence, I rarely post on the
chat list anymore (if you cant say anything nice......), although I still
read every post. (OK, sorry for whining:-)
I have concluded that Commanders are truly a unique airplane, surpassed only
by the uniqueness of their owners. Commander owners are simply, by and
large, not "clubby" people. They are individualists and don't run with a pack.
Nothing wrong with that!! But it makes an endeavor like this nearly
impossible. The future of the group is unclear. I am asking all of you what
you
want the TCFG to look like? Should it be a non-profit volunteer organization?
Run by a board of directors?? Is someone out there willing to buy it from
me and run it?? I am truly open to your suggestions. I have no hard
feelings and have no intention of closing the group, never! The work done behind
the scenes is to important. Every day I take calls and answer important
questions from owners, prospective owners, mechanics working on their first
Commander and even an occasional member. I will, until I am relieved, always
be
here to act as a liaison with the factory and the FAA. I have a good
relationship with both and have learned to really appreciate the importance
of having a
strong company like TCAC looking after our fleet. I will continue to plan
for this year's fly-in and hope it will be a great successes.
So, if you have any ideas for the future of our group (the handful of you on
this list who are actually members, or those who would join if there were
changes made), let's talk. I want this group to grow and become a vital
organization. Innuendos about "the good old days" won't be of any help. Be
part
of the solution.
Jim Metzger Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
PS There really is a newsletter on the way very soon, thanks for your
patience.
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote:
> HI CHRIS and all.....
>
> Well, The negative comments of late regarding the state of the web-site have
> not fallen on deaf ears.
Jim,
That was an excellent posting and I, for one, was very pleased to see it!
I can certainly understand your frustration. Remember that I did the
web site and chatlist thing for about eight years and also spent
hundreds of hours a year answering phone calls and emails. It's great
to be able to help people, but it IS time consuming and expensive. It
was always nice to get a compliment, but the negatives sure offset them
as well. I think you may have a good point about Commander owners being
"individualists", but I also believe there are many other reasons that
the membership isn't as active. Lets face it - money is pretty darn
tight for a lot of us and dollars are only spent when absolutely
required. I can't honestly see how any type group (unless they're
producing parts) can be profitable. You know how much effort goes into
the news letter, and I can confirm that it takes about half-a-dozen late
nights a month to keep a web site "fresh". Aviation is a hobby for most
GA owners/pilots. I suspect a type group must fall under the same
catagory to thrive. Some of the most active groups I'm aware of are
almost completely social. The Bellanca group members get together very
regulary at events hosted by the members. They have a lot of technical
information on their web site and chat list which limits costs for
membership, but all events are hosted by members and are free. Seems to
be working well for them, but as you pointed out, the Commander crowd is
different.
I do wish you the best of luck in keeping this train rolling, but I do
reserve the right to reminise about the most positive aspects of the
group and the acquaintences I've made along the way. (that's a positive
thing ya know!)
Chris Schuermann
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Well I'll throw a bone, I did not contribute this year as I have in the past
as I was trying to impress the banks how much money I had so they would give
me more to buy a plane which as everyone knows is an insane idea.
Now I have the plane I can part with what should have been my contribution
last winter.
Here come the excuses, please keep in mind that this aircraft came with one
hydraulic Skydrol pump that had not worked for years, (I can't believe this
commercial aircraft was flying revenue with one pump U/S), it has taken a
month to get seals for the overhaul. The interior was non existent and
needed immediate replacement, there is no air vents in the cabin for the
passengers, the heater (when delivered) consisted of a plastic dryer hose
snaking forward from the baggage compartment. All the windows (except the
new windshields) are crazed to the point of required replacement. All of
the above will have to reduce what I would like to give to the group.
Tom F.
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: "THE fan"
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 5/31/2005 3:49:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> cschuerm@cox.net writes:
>
> That would be interesting, but I'm no longer in control of the Commander
> web site. I "loaned it" to Jim a couple years ago. He, Chris, and Dan
> have been maintaining it since.
> I don't currently have a good host to put a web site on or I'd probably
> have done it by now.
>
>
> HI CHRIS and all.....
>
> Well, The negative comments of late regarding the state of the web-site
have
> not fallen on deaf ears. The concerns are legitimate. I have simply
been
> to busy to devote the time required to truly lead the Flight Group. While
> "officially" retired, I operate a small maintenance facility at our local
airport
> and have done 5 annual inspections in the last 8 weeks. I also deliver
> airplanes and have been very busy. I just returned from a 2100 km
(Toronto CN to
> Visila CA) trip delivering a new "Bush Hawk" on amphibious floats.
>
> That is only part of the story. Leading this group has proved to be more
> difficult than herding frogs. When I purchased the group, (yes, I paid
> $2000.00 for the mailing list after the group had gone completely
dormant) I had
> intended it to make a modest profit that would have allowed for the
growth of
> the organization. I had hoped (and worked diligently) in the beginning
to grow
> the group to a size that would have allowed for a "real" newsletter,
> web-site and other services. That was not to be. Despite spending
hundreds of
> dollars and countless hours sending requests to join to virtually every
Commander
> owner, still almost little or no growth. This was echoed recently when
John
> Towner, the host of the 2004 fly-in in KC sent an invitation to attend
the
> event to EVERY registered Commander owner in the US. The attendance at
the
> event was only slightly above average (it was a GREAT event, thanks
John!!).
>
> Even now, most of the people currently on this chat list are not members
of
> the TCFG? Why? Some have inquired about joining, but few actually sent
> money. I have asked several of those who I consider "true believers"
what the
> problem might be. Dues too high? Not enough information? No one seems
to
> know. I am close friends with the President of the Navion group. Of
about 1000
> airplanes flying, nearly 600 are members!! Imagine what our group would
> look like with 500 members!! Wow!!
>
> Over the years I have worked hard to maintain a quality group, but I
cannot
> do it alone. While everyone, including me, wants fresh and new material
on
> the web-site, who has offered to help? I have literally begged for
articles
> for the newsletter, who has sent any? (Barry Collman sure has, Thanks
Barry)?
> The "G" in TCFG stands for Group. I can't be a group of one.
>
> There is another issue. While I may not be the highest time Commander
pilot
> on the list ( only 12,500TT, 1400 hrs in Commanders, flown all but 4
piston
> models, including a 720) or the smartest Commander mechanic (only an
A&P-IA 31
> years) or owned the most Commanders (only 3), but I do have a LITTLE bit
of
> experience with these machines. I have grown weary of having the
information
> I share, some of it very important, being challenged by those with little
> (or no) Commander experience. No sour grapes here, just frustration that
> instead of listening and learning, everyone seems to be a "Commander
Guru" when
> they make their first solo flight in a Commander. Hence, I rarely post
on the
> chat list anymore (if you cant say anything nice......), although I still
> read every post. (OK, sorry for whining:-)
>
> I have concluded that Commanders are truly a unique airplane, surpassed
only
> by the uniqueness of their owners. Commander owners are simply, by and
> large, not "clubby" people. They are individualists and don't run with a
pack.
> Nothing wrong with that!! But it makes an endeavor like this nearly
> impossible. The future of the group is unclear. I am asking all of you
what you
> want the TCFG to look like? Should it be a non-profit volunteer
organization?
> Run by a board of directors?? Is someone out there willing to buy it
from
> me and run it?? I am truly open to your suggestions. I have no hard
> feelings and have no intention of closing the group, never! The work
done behind
> the scenes is to important. Every day I take calls and answer important
> questions from owners, prospective owners, mechanics working on their
first
> Commander and even an occasional member. I will, until I am relieved,
always be
> here to act as a liaison with the factory and the FAA. I have a good
> relationship with both and have learned to really appreciate the
importance of having a
> strong company like TCAC looking after our fleet. I will continue to
plan
> for this year's fly-in and hope it will be a great successes.
>
> So, if you have any ideas for the future of our group (the handful of you
on
> this list who are actually members, or those who would join if there were
> changes made), let's talk. I want this group to grow and become a vital
> organization. Innuendos about "the good old days" won't be of any help.
Be part
> of the solution.
>
> Jim Metzger Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
>
> PS There really is a newsletter on the way very soon, thanks for your
> patience.
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
I am looking for the little feet that go on the bottom of the legs for the
seats, I need eight of them.
I am not sure how many types there are of these feet that allow you to drop
the seat in the tracks and slide to the next lock position.
Tom F.
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: "THE fan"
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 5/31/2005 3:49:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> cschuerm@cox.net writes:
>
> That would be interesting, but I'm no longer in control of the Commander
> web site. I "loaned it" to Jim a couple years ago. He, Chris, and Dan
> have been maintaining it since.
> I don't currently have a good host to put a web site on or I'd probably
> have done it by now.
>
>
> HI CHRIS and all.....
>
> Well, The negative comments of late regarding the state of the web-site
have
> not fallen on deaf ears. The concerns are legitimate. I have simply
been
> to busy to devote the time required to truly lead the Flight Group. While
> "officially" retired, I operate a small maintenance facility at our local
airport
> and have done 5 annual inspections in the last 8 weeks. I also deliver
> airplanes and have been very busy. I just returned from a 2100 km
(Toronto CN to
> Visila CA) trip delivering a new "Bush Hawk" on amphibious floats.
>
> That is only part of the story. Leading this group has proved to be more
> difficult than herding frogs. When I purchased the group, (yes, I paid
> $2000.00 for the mailing list after the group had gone completely
dormant) I had
> intended it to make a modest profit that would have allowed for the
growth of
> the organization. I had hoped (and worked diligently) in the beginning
to grow
> the group to a size that would have allowed for a "real" newsletter,
> web-site and other services. That was not to be. Despite spending
hundreds of
> dollars and countless hours sending requests to join to virtually every
Commander
> owner, still almost little or no growth. This was echoed recently when
John
> Towner, the host of the 2004 fly-in in KC sent an invitation to attend
the
> event to EVERY registered Commander owner in the US. The attendance at
the
> event was only slightly above average (it was a GREAT event, thanks
John!!).
>
> Even now, most of the people currently on this chat list are not members
of
> the TCFG? Why? Some have inquired about joining, but few actually sent
> money. I have asked several of those who I consider "true believers"
what the
> problem might be. Dues too high? Not enough information? No one seems
to
> know. I am close friends with the President of the Navion group. Of
about 1000
> airplanes flying, nearly 600 are members!! Imagine what our group would
> look like with 500 members!! Wow!!
>
> Over the years I have worked hard to maintain a quality group, but I
cannot
> do it alone. While everyone, including me, wants fresh and new material
on
> the web-site, who has offered to help? I have literally begged for
articles
> for the newsletter, who has sent any? (Barry Collman sure has, Thanks
Barry)?
> The "G" in TCFG stands for Group. I can't be a group of one.
>
> There is another issue. While I may not be the highest time Commander
pilot
> on the list ( only 12,500TT, 1400 hrs in Commanders, flown all but 4
piston
> models, including a 720) or the smartest Commander mechanic (only an
A&P-IA 31
> years) or owned the most Commanders (only 3), but I do have a LITTLE bit
of
> experience with these machines. I have grown weary of having the
information
> I share, some of it very important, being challenged by those with little
> (or no) Commander experience. No sour grapes here, just frustration that
> instead of listening and learning, everyone seems to be a "Commander
Guru" when
> they make their first solo flight in a Commander. Hence, I rarely post
on the
> chat list anymore (if you cant say anything nice......), although I still
> read every post. (OK, sorry for whining:-)
>
> I have concluded that Commanders are truly a unique airplane, surpassed
only
> by the uniqueness of their owners. Commander owners are simply, by and
> large, not "clubby" people. They are individualists and don't run with a
pack.
> Nothing wrong with that!! But it makes an endeavor like this nearly
> impossible. The future of the group is unclear. I am asking all of you
what you
> want the TCFG to look like? Should it be a non-profit volunteer
organization?
> Run by a board of directors?? Is someone out there willing to buy it
from
> me and run it?? I am truly open to your suggestions. I have no hard
> feelings and have no intention of closing the group, never! The work
done behind
> the scenes is to important. Every day I take calls and answer important
> questions from owners, prospective owners, mechanics working on their
first
> Commander and even an occasional member. I will, until I am relieved,
always be
> here to act as a liaison with the factory and the FAA. I have a good
> relationship with both and have learned to really appreciate the
importance of having a
> strong company like TCAC looking after our fleet. I will continue to
plan
> for this year's fly-in and hope it will be a great successes.
>
> So, if you have any ideas for the future of our group (the handful of you
on
> this list who are actually members, or those who would join if there were
> changes made), let's talk. I want this group to grow and become a vital
> organization. Innuendos about "the good old days" won't be of any help.
Be part
> of the solution.
>
> Jim Metzger Director, Twin Commander Flight Group
>
> PS There really is a newsletter on the way very soon, thanks for your
> patience.
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Jim
I agree with Chris, it is an excellent posting. Chris is right, dollars have
been a substantial reason for many of us to cut back on expenses that do not
contribute to keeping life and limb together. It is also cheaper to run a
Rocket homebuilt, or a Navion, for that matter, than an Aero Commander.
Those of us who own an Aero Commander really either have enough love and
cash to make that happen, or have only enough love to prevent that from not
happening.
If I can be of help, being in the IT business, let me know. If everyone
could contribute something, we may end up with a workable solution. It
should not fall on one person only. Perhaps if everyone submits a skills
list of what they are willing to contribute in terms of time and resources,
someone could cherry-pick a cascade of skills from among the members that
could keep the group functioning.
Just a thought.
Thanks
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net>
Subject: Commander-List: state of the union address
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
>
>
> YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote:
> > HI CHRIS and all.....
> >
> > Well, The negative comments of late regarding the state of the web-site
have
> > not fallen on deaf ears.
>
> Jim,
> That was an excellent posting and I, for one, was very pleased to see it!
> I can certainly understand your frustration. Remember that I did the
> web site and chatlist thing for about eight years and also spent
> hundreds of hours a year answering phone calls and emails. It's great
> to be able to help people, but it IS time consuming and expensive. It
> was always nice to get a compliment, but the negatives sure offset them
> as well. I think you may have a good point about Commander owners being
> "individualists", but I also believe there are many other reasons that
> the membership isn't as active. Lets face it - money is pretty darn
> tight for a lot of us and dollars are only spent when absolutely
> required. I can't honestly see how any type group (unless they're
> producing parts) can be profitable. You know how much effort goes into
> the news letter, and I can confirm that it takes about half-a-dozen late
> nights a month to keep a web site "fresh". Aviation is a hobby for most
> GA owners/pilots. I suspect a type group must fall under the same
> catagory to thrive. Some of the most active groups I'm aware of are
> almost completely social. The Bellanca group members get together very
> regulary at events hosted by the members. They have a lot of technical
> information on their web site and chat list which limits costs for
> membership, but all events are hosted by members and are free. Seems to
> be working well for them, but as you pointed out, the Commander crowd is
> different.
>
> I do wish you the best of luck in keeping this train rolling, but I do
> reserve the right to reminise about the most positive aspects of the
> group and the acquaintences I've made along the way. (that's a positive
> thing ya know!)
>
> Chris Schuermann
>
>
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In a message dated 6/1/2005 5:12:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cschuerm@cox.net writes:
(that's a positive
thing ya know!)
Indeed it is Chris. Thanks jb
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In a message dated 6/1/2005 6:02:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
Just a thought.
Thanks Nico jb
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