---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/12/05: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:00 AM - Re: 2005 FLYIN! (Bill Bow) 2. 05:02 AM - Re: 2005 FLYIN! (MASON Chevaillier) 3. 05:45 AM - Re: NICE FLIGHT () 4. 07:59 AM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (Randy Dettmer, AIA) 5. 01:19 PM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 6. 01:20 PM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 7. 01:24 PM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 8. 01:26 PM - Re: NICE FLIGHT (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 9. 01:27 PM - Re: 2005 FLYIN! (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 10. 04:17 PM - Re: 2005 FLYIN! (nico css) 11. 06:53 PM - Re: 2005 FLYIN! (Stan) 12. 07:33 PM - Re: 2005 FLYIN! (YOURTCFG@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:07 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" ....those who have, those who will and those who will again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > Jimbob, > > Sounds GREAT! I can't wait to attend the first official Commander Fly-In > that's happening in my own backyard! > > If there's anything I can do to help with logistics, let me know. Also, if > you need to make an "Administrative Visit" before the actual event, the > Metzger family (even Iguana-Metzgers) are always welcome at Casa de > Vormbaum! > > Although, you might want to call ahead. I flew from PAO to HWD today (uhh, > about 8 min. flight) to visit Morris for a cup of coffee & some pie, and > ended up stuck there. Someone in a twin (a low-wing airplane obviously) > decided to land wheels-up at PAO, resulting in the closure of the airport > for about 2 hours. > > Chalk one up for the high-vs-low wing argument. Do that in a Commander and > you can probably get the runway cleared in 15 minutes. With no damage to > engine or props. > > /J > > PS: It's still a good idea to make sure the rollers are out BEFORE > touching > down. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com >> >> HI KIDS. >> >> Just to let everyone know. The 2005 Twin commander Flight Group >> flyin and convention will be held in Marina California (Near Monterey) > Sept >> 22-25 Thursday will be an arrival day and "Pizza Party" Tech. > Workshops and >> Seminars begin Friday AM and are intended for the "boys" (everyone is > welcome) >> The gals will join us for lunch and the afternoon will be spent having > fun >> together seeing local attractions. I am planing a fly-out for Saturday >> afternoon (maybe a poker run). >> I have blocked 30 rooms and am talking with Enterprise rent a car > about >> delivering cars to the airport. The meeting facility at Marina looks > great! >> Sat evening awards banquet location TBA, but will probably be a > little >> less formal that before and feature Mexican food (in keeping with the > location) >> If you are interested in attending, let me know and I will forward a >> registration form. It will be a blast and there is always great > information >> shared. Hope to see all of you there!! >> >> Jim Metzger Director, TCFG >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.1135 (20050609) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.nod32.com >> >> >> __________ NOD32 1.1135 (20050609) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.nod32.com >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:05 AM PST US From: "MASON Chevaillier" Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON Chevaillier" jm, please put me down for the fly in. mason 2001m >From: YOURTCFG@aol.com >Reply-To: commander-list@matronics.com >To: commander-list@matronics.com >Subject: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! >Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 00:10:20 EDT > >--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > >HI KIDS. > > Just to let everyone know. The 2005 Twin commander Flight Group >flyin and convention will be held in Marina California (Near Monterey) >Sept >22-25 Thursday will be an arrival day and "Pizza Party" Tech. Workshops >and >Seminars begin Friday AM and are intended for the "boys" (everyone is >welcome) >The gals will join us for lunch and the afternoon will be spent having fun >together seeing local attractions. I am planing a fly-out for Saturday >afternoon (maybe a poker run). > I have blocked 30 rooms and am talking with Enterprise rent a car >about >delivering cars to the airport. The meeting facility at Marina looks >great! > Sat evening awards banquet location TBA, but will probably be a >little >less formal that before and feature Mexican food (in keeping with the >location) > If you are interested in attending, let me know and I will forward a >registration form. It will be a blast and there is always great >information >shared. Hope to see all of you there!! > >Jim Metzger Director, TCFG > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:57 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Commander-List message posted by: I flew my 500 Shrike form Mich. to Santa Fe, NM for a week vacation with my wife. I took a day trip up to San Francisco to visit my 94 year old mother while my wife did her museum/art gallery b.s. in Santa Fe. I stopped in Needles California for a fuel stop. Neat place and fuel was very reasonable for 100LL at 3.25 a gallon. Getting into San Francisco was very easy. I landed in San Jose (SQL) rented a Hertz (on the field) at $32.99/ day and was in and out of the city in 1 1/2 hours including a stop for Sushi. Life is good when flying a twin commander. Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. I just returned from a nice flight in triple 2. Flew to Nampa S67, for a couple of days to help a close friend annual his Skymaster. Flew home today (10.5 32 X 2550rpm = 157 KTIA, 177 KTS over the ground) An old friend of mine has a great WW 2 museum and had a "Mustang Invitational" event today. They had 5 Mustangs (Including "Ole Yeller", RA Bob Hoovers old mount, still painted in his livery), 2 P-40s, a Wildcat, and a Skyraider. They were flying rides all day long. It was so good to hear those things fly past. They even had a number of gals dressed on 40s cloths (the seem up their hose) Man, they sure looked good. I love the way women dressed back then, no wonder we had a "baby boom"!! I was fortunate to depart right behind a flight of 4 P-51s!! What fun. Anybody else fly their Commander anywhere this week end?? jb ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:03 AM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: RE: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Hi JimBob, My daughter & I flew an Angel Flight mission yesterday in our 680F. SBP (San Luis Obispo, CA) to SAC (Sacramento Executive) to pick up 3 young kids who are burn survivors. Then, we delivered them down to FAT (Fresno-Yosemite) to attend a special summer camp for kids who have suffered severe burns. As always, it is gratifying to volunteer to help these folks with transportation. And, as always, the Commander performed wonderfully...swallowed up all the sleeping bags and baggage and then hummed along at190 knots true at 11500. A very pleasant way to spend a Saturday. Regarding the California Fly-in...count me in..!! Along with John V., Marina is practically in my back yard, so I am available to help with set-up and what-ever. Let me know what I can do. Randy Dettmer 680F/N6253X -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. I just returned from a nice flight in triple 2. Flew to Nampa ID S67, for a couple of days to help a close friend annual his Skymaster. Flew home today (10.5 32 X 2550rpm = 157 KTIA, 177 KTS over the ground) An old friend of mine has a great WW 2 museum and had a "Mustang Invitational" event today. They had 5 Mustangs (Including "Ole Yeller", RA Bob Hoovers old mount, still painted in his livery), 2 P-40s, a Wildcat, and a Skyraider. They were flying rides all day long. It was so good to hear those things fly past. They even had a number of gals dressed on 40s cloths (the seem up their hose) Man, they sure looked good. I love the way women dressed back then, no wonder we had a "baby boom"!! I was fortunate to depart right behind a flight of 4 P-51s!! What fun. Anybody else fly their Commander anywhere this week end?? jb ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:19:46 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 6/12/2005 5:46:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dfalik@sbcglobal.net writes: Life is good when flying a twin commander. AMEN!! jb ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:39 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 6/12/2005 7:59:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rcdettmer@charter.net writes: swallowed up all the sleeping bags and baggage and then hummed along at190 knots true at 11500. A very pleasant way to spend a Saturday. So cool!! I will be in touch on the flyin. Thanks jb ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:50 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 6/11/2005 10:39:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, akucheck@hotmail.com writes: So not only will I [eventually] be living on an airpark, I will be living in an Aero Commander ghetto on an airpark! WOW!! Congratulations!! jb PS RHANKS FOR YOUR HELP WITH ORD. IT WILL BE A GREAT PLACE. jb ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:10 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: NICE FLIGHT --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 6/11/2005 11:19:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, RRamm52@cs.com writes: great flight and the bahamas are still beautiful! AMEN TO THAT. Someday, I want to live in the Caribbean. jb ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:48 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 6/12/2005 5:00:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, bowing74@earthlink.net writes: PS: It's still a good idea to make sure the rollers are out BEFORE > touching > down. Yep, it overheats the engines taxing to the ramp at full power!! jb ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:46 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" You all probably heard this before, but I tell everybody anyway: There are three things that remain with a pilot when doing a wheels-up landing: (in a low-wing, of course). 1. The momentary sense that this is a perfect landing as you sink through the touch-down point. 2. The propellers that suddenly change into what might look like dry arrangements. 3. The distance to the runway when you step off the wing. Nico PS. Jim, did you get my email about fixing the question marks in your article? ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > In a message dated 6/12/2005 5:00:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > bowing74@earthlink.net writes: > > PS: It's still a good idea to make sure the rollers are out BEFORE > > touching > > down. > > > Yep, it overheats the engines taxing to the ramp at full power!! jb > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:34 PM PST US From: "Stan" Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! --> Commander-List message posted by: "Stan" Hi Jim, Count me in for two (my dad will also be attending)! Let me know if there is anything we can do to help. See you there! Thanks, Stan (now N681SP) -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com HI KIDS. Just to let everyone know. The 2005 Twin commander Flight Group flyin and convention will be held in Marina California (Near Monterey) Sept 22-25 Thursday will be an arrival day and "Pizza Party" Tech. Workshops and Seminars begin Friday AM and are intended for the "boys" (everyone is welcome) The gals will join us for lunch and the afternoon will be spent having fun together seeing local attractions. I am planing a fly-out for Saturday afternoon (maybe a poker run). I have blocked 30 rooms and am talking with Enterprise rent a car about delivering cars to the airport. The meeting facility at Marina looks great! Sat evening awards banquet location TBA, but will probably be a little less formal that before and feature Mexican food (in keeping with the location) If you are interested in attending, let me know and I will forward a registration form. It will be a blast and there is always great information shared. Hope to see all of you there!! Jim Metzger Director, TCFG ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:28 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2005 FLYIN! --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 6/12/2005 4:18:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, nico@cybersuperstore.com writes: PS. Jim, did you get my email about fixing the question marks in your article? No?? jb