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1. 05:17 PM - Simmonds Fuel Pumps (Moe)
2. 06:51 PM - Finished restoration (Chris Schuermann)
3. 06:59 PM - Re: Finished restoration (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
4. 07:27 PM - Re: Finished restoration ()
5. 07:33 PM - Re: Finished restoration (RRamm52@cs.com)
6. 08:03 PM - Re: Simmonds Fuel Pumps (CloudCraft@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Simmonds Fuel Pumps |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Gents,
After flying N680RR for almost 700 hours I have gone through five Simmonds fuel
pumps.
One kept going dead rich and would not adjust so it was rebuilt. About ten hours
after being rebuilt it developed an internal leak which pumped the gas back
into the crankcase and overfilled the oil sump tank. In flight there was no
way of knowing what was going on until the oil pressure went low, and I strongly
suspect that this is why the crankshaft and rod bearings had abnormal wear
at over haul time. Another one wore to the point that it was impossible to get
the proper mixture settings on it. Two pumps with about 400 hours have suddenly
developed leaks (not just drips) around the shaft that goes in the side of
the pump, for the idle cut off.
The down time is out of hand, and the overhaul costs are bizarre.
Am I the only one with this problem, or is this normal?
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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| Subject: | Finished restoration |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
Howdy all. This is "off topic" but thought I'd share with my Commander
friends anyway.
I've finally finished the total restoration of my twin Piper. It's been
quite the project but I'm very pleased with the results. I know an
Aztec isn't a Commander but it's a darn fine combination of
functionality in an affordable package. I've put a series of pictures
up on a web page in case anyone wants to see the fruits of two years of
hard labor. http://members.cox.net/cschuerm/
With all the upgrades and improvments, I'm getting right at 170kts true
at 5000ft. Pretty respectable for an old blunt fat-wing piper product.
cheers
Chris Schuermann
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| Subject: | Finished restoration |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
Hey Chris,
Beautiful airplane..!! I have alot of time in a wonderful old Apache we
called the "potato"...because it was "brown and round". I have a soft spot
in my heart for that old plane, and your beautiful restoration brings back
great memories. You did a gorgeous job...congratulations..!!
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris
Schuermann
Subject: Commander-List: Finished restoration
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
Howdy all. This is "off topic" but thought I'd share with my Commander
friends anyway.
I've finally finished the total restoration of my twin Piper. It's been
quite the project but I'm very pleased with the results. I know an
Aztec isn't a Commander but it's a darn fine combination of
functionality in an affordable package. I've put a series of pictures
up on a web page in case anyone wants to see the fruits of two years of
hard labor. http://members.cox.net/cschuerm/
With all the upgrades and improvments, I'm getting right at 170kts true
at 5000ft. Pretty respectable for an old blunt fat-wing piper product.
cheers
Chris Schuermann
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| Subject: | Finished restoration |
--> Commander-List message posted by: <dfalik@sbcglobal.net>
As the proud owner of a 1957 Apache 150 in addition to a 1970 500S I can
truly say what a magnificent restoration on a truly classic airplane.
I, too, enjoy the airmanship of flying the "potato" as a respite from
flying the "airliner" (500S). In fact this fri. I am leaving for a one
week flying adventure to Alaska from Michigan and am taking the Apache
instead of the Commander. Again, nice restoration.
Don
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Dettmer, AIA
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Finished restoration
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA"
<rcdettmer@charter.net>
Hey Chris,
Beautiful airplane..!! I have alot of time in a wonderful old Apache
we
called the "potato"...because it was "brown and round". I have a soft
spot
in my heart for that old plane, and your beautiful restoration brings
back
great memories. You did a gorgeous job...congratulations..!!
Randy Dettmer
680F/N6253X
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris
Schuermann
Subject: Commander-List: Finished restoration
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann
<cschuerm@cox.net>
Howdy all. This is "off topic" but thought I'd share with my Commander
friends anyway.
I've finally finished the total restoration of my twin Piper. It's been
quite the project but I'm very pleased with the results. I know an
Aztec isn't a Commander but it's a darn fine combination of
functionality in an affordable package. I've put a series of pictures
up on a web page in case anyone wants to see the fruits of two years of
hard labor. http://members.cox.net/cschuerm/
With all the upgrades and improvments, I'm getting right at 170kts true
at 5000ft. Pretty respectable for an old blunt fat-wing piper product.
cheers
Chris Schuermann
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| Subject: | Re: Finished restoration |
--> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com
In a message dated 7/13/2005 9:02:28 PM Central Standard Time,
rcdettmer@charter.net writes:
> http://members.cox.net/cschuerm/
Beautiful job, Chris! Very admirable....
Rob
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| Subject: | Re: Simmonds Fuel Pumps |
--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com
In a message dated 13-Jul-05 17:18:17 Pacific Daylight Time,
moe@rosspistons.com writes:
The down time is out of hand, and the overhaul costs are bizarre.
Am I the only one with this problem, or is this normal?
Moe,
You are one of the few operators I know of running the IGSO-540 who flies a
bunch.
Who did your last overhauls? I sure hope it wasn't Central Cylinder.
What is your shutdown procedure, by the way? I hint I taught my 680-F
series clients was to turn the engines off via the mag switch instead of pulling
the mixtures to idle.
As heretical as that is, it does two things: Complies with an AD on certain
mag switches to test them every 10 hours and keeps fuel in the Simmonds so the
diaphragms don't dry out.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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