---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/27/05: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:47 AM - sizzor arm (Daniel Stewart) 2. 02:06 AM - 337 for cleveland conversion (Daniel Stewart) 3. 04:34 AM - Re: sizzor arm (Kevin Coons) 4. 05:07 AM - Re: 337 for cleveland conversion (Avtec2) 5. 06:06 AM - Re: Tail Stand and 680F(p) (Moe) 6. 08:19 AM - Re: Tail Stand and 680F(p) (John Vormbaum) 7. 09:42 AM - (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 8. 09:58 AM - Re: Tail Stand and 680F(p) (Moe) 9. 10:39 AM - Re: Yellow Commander (CloudCraft@aol.com) 10. 11:00 AM - At the office... (nico css) 11. 05:01 PM - Re: 337 for cleveland conversion (skyhawkC-172@comcast.net) 12. 07:26 PM - Parts (Dan Farmer) 13. 07:31 PM - Parts (Dan Farmer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:04 AM PST US From: Daniel Stewart Subject: Commander-List: sizzor arm --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart Hey Gentlemen, I am desparately trying to locate a replacement lower sizzer arm for the nose struct on my 560. The FBO here over-rotated the strut and it is no cracked. If anyone knows someone who might be parting out a 560, please let me know. Also, who knows what other commander models use the same part on there strut? Regards, Daniel --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:14 AM PST US From: Daniel Stewart Subject: Commander-List: 337 for cleveland conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart Hi Don, Would it be possible to get a fax of the Field approval done on your plane? What was the kit# installed; 199-??? I'm trying to submit a 337 to put clevelands on my straight 560. I beleive the kit 199-88 is the correct one. Can you confirm? I appreciate your help. Daniel fax 831.471.9353 Lowell Girod wrote: From: "Lowell Girod" Subject: RE: Commander-List: cleveland brakes on AC560 --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" Dan; My 560E has Clevelands, think Harry might have been the one to do it, not sure. If you need me to, I can get out the paper work and see how it was done. Don > [Original Message] > From: Daniel Stewart > To: > Date: 2/24/2005 4:20:08 AM > Subject: Commander-List: cleveland brakes on AC560 > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart > > > Has any 560 owners replaced there Goodyear Brakes with Cleveland brakes? And if so, was it with an STC or field approval? > > Thanks, Dan > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:11 AM PST US From: "Kevin Coons" Subject: RE: Commander-List: sizzor arm --> Commander-List message posted by: "Kevin Coons" Daniel, Try John Towner at Central Air Southwest Airlines in Kansas City. Mo. Kevin Coons -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Stewart Subject: Commander-List: sizzor arm --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart Hey Gentlemen, I am desparately trying to locate a replacement lower sizzer arm for the nose struct on my 560. The FBO here over-rotated the strut and it is no cracked. If anyone knows someone who might be parting out a 560, please let me know. Also, who knows what other commander models use the same part on there strut? Regards, Daniel --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:16 AM PST US From: "Avtec2" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 337 for cleveland conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: "Avtec2" I need to find it. 199-80 Kit. I have a used set Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Stewart" Subject: Commander-List: 337 for cleveland conversion > --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart > > > > Hi Don, > > Would it be possible to get a fax of the Field approval done on your > plane? > > What was the kit# installed; 199-??? > > I'm trying to submit a 337 to put clevelands on my straight 560. I beleive > the kit 199-88 is the correct one. Can you confirm? > > I appreciate your help. > > Daniel > > fax 831.471.9353 > > > Lowell Girod wrote: > From: "Lowell Girod" > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: cleveland brakes on AC560 > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:48:36 -0500 > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > Dan; > > My 560E has Clevelands, think Harry might have been the one to do it, not > sure. If you need me to, I can get out the paper work and see how it was > done. > > Don > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Daniel Stewart >> To: >> Date: 2/24/2005 4:20:08 AM >> Subject: Commander-List: cleveland brakes on AC560 >> >> --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart > >> >> >> Has any 560 owners replaced there Goodyear Brakes with Cleveland brakes? > And if so, was it with an STC or field approval? >> >> Thanks, Dan >> > > --------------------------------- > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:06 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" John, This would be great. I will get there at about 10:00 AM, and Morris is going to trim my Simmonds Fuel Injection pumps. One of them has about 400 hours on it and the other only has about three hours on it. Morris does such a good job of adjusting them that it is well worth the flight. Hope to see you there, maybe we could do lunch. Moe N680RR 680F(p) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > Moe, > > The 680fp airframe is still at Hayward, over on the nat'l guard (south) side > of the field. I understand from Morris that the empennage sustained some > damage in the move but I don't know the details; he can give you a clearer > picture of the condition when you fly up. > > If you're coming Friday, maybe I'll see you out at Morris'. I often fly over > for lunch on Fridays. > > Cheers, > > /John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moe" > To: > Subject: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > > JB > > > > At one time you had some tail stands for sale. Do you still have them, > and are they the type that were fairly easy to add weight to (for pulling > the nose wheel off the ground). It seems that someone felt that they needed > mine (a framed 55 gallon barrell with casters which could be filled with > water for weight) worse than I did. > > > > Also, what ever happened to the 680F(p) that you were thinking about > putting LS6 engines in? I am flying up to Morris' this Friday. Shall I > take my tools and start stripping it or is it still over by the bay? -- > Just kidding! > > > > Moe > > N680RR > > 680F(p) > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:12 AM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Excellent! I'll know by tomorrow afternoon if my schedule will allow the visit (which it usually does). I will be curious to hear what Morris thinks about the difficulties you've had with the Simmonds pumps, and what he thinks is the proper shutdown procedure... /J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > John, > > This would be great. I will get there at about 10:00 AM, and Morris is > going to trim my Simmonds Fuel Injection pumps. One of them has about 400 > hours on it and the other only has about three hours on it. Morris does > such a good job of adjusting them that it is well worth the flight. > > Hope to see you there, maybe we could do lunch. > > Moe > N680RR > 680F(p) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Vormbaum" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > > > Moe, > > > > The 680fp airframe is still at Hayward, over on the nat'l guard (south) > side > > of the field. I understand from Morris that the empennage sustained some > > damage in the move but I don't know the details; he can give you a clearer > > picture of the condition when you fly up. > > > > If you're coming Friday, maybe I'll see you out at Morris'. I often fly > over > > for lunch on Fridays. > > > > Cheers, > > > > /John > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Moe" > > To: > > Subject: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > > > > JB > > > > > > At one time you had some tail stands for sale. Do you still have them, > > and are they the type that were fairly easy to add weight to (for pulling > > the nose wheel off the ground). It seems that someone felt that they > needed > > mine (a framed 55 gallon barrell with casters which could be filled with > > water for weight) worse than I did. > > > > > > Also, what ever happened to the 680F(p) that you were thinking about > > putting LS6 engines in? I am flying up to Morris' this Friday. Shall I > > take my tools and start stripping it or is it still over by the bay? -- > > Just kidding! > > > > > > Moe > > > N680RR > > > 680F(p) > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1178 (20050726) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1178 (20050726) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:10 AM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Commander-List: --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" anyone see cover of TRAVEL SMITH mens outfitting guide late summer 05? nice picture from the copilots window of a bright yellow commander over the islands. mason ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:47 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" will stand by for an advisory Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > Excellent! I'll know by tomorrow afternoon if my schedule will allow the > visit (which it usually does). > > I will be curious to hear what Morris thinks about the difficulties you've > had with the Simmonds pumps, and what he thinks is the proper shutdown > procedure... > > /J > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moe" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > > John, > > > > This would be great. I will get there at about 10:00 AM, and Morris is > > going to trim my Simmonds Fuel Injection pumps. One of them has about 400 > > hours on it and the other only has about three hours on it. Morris does > > such a good job of adjusting them that it is well worth the flight. > > > > Hope to see you there, maybe we could do lunch. > > > > Moe > > N680RR > > 680F(p) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Vormbaum" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" > > > > > > > Moe, > > > > > > The 680fp airframe is still at Hayward, over on the nat'l guard (south) > > side > > > of the field. I understand from Morris that the empennage sustained some > > > damage in the move but I don't know the details; he can give you a > clearer > > > picture of the condition when you fly up. > > > > > > If you're coming Friday, maybe I'll see you out at Morris'. I often fly > > over > > > for lunch on Fridays. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > /John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Moe" > > > To: > > > Subject: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > > > > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > At one time you had some tail stands for sale. Do you still have > them, > > > and are they the type that were fairly easy to add weight to (for > pulling > > > the nose wheel off the ground). It seems that someone felt that they > > needed > > > mine (a framed 55 gallon barrell with casters which could be filled with > > > water for weight) worse than I did. > > > > > > > > Also, what ever happened to the 680F(p) that you were thinking about > > > putting LS6 engines in? I am flying up to Morris' this Friday. Shall I > > > take my tools and start stripping it or is it still over by the ay? -- > > > Just kidding! > > > > > > > > Moe > > > > N680RR > > > > 680F(p) > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1178 (20050726) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1178 (20050726) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:19 AM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Yellow Commander --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > Haven't seen that catalog -- don't know why, I get 10,000 catalogs a week -- but a yellow Commander is probably SVG Air's airplane. Paul and Joanne Gravel are the owners. SVG Air, Caribbean Air Charters and scheduled flights in the Grenadines Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:51 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: At the office... --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" Oh, just another night in the office. I cannot say 'been there done that." Wish I could, though. Nico http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/CarrierLanding/NightTrap.wmv ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:01:39 PM PST US From: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net Subject: Re: Commander-List: 337 for cleveland conversion --> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net Looking for a 3-in-1 engine guage in useable condition if anyone might have one. part # 3850031-1 I think... -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Avtec2" > > I need to find it. > 199-80 Kit. > I have a used set > Harry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Stewart" > To: "commander-list" > Subject: Commander-List: 337 for cleveland conversion > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart > > > > > > > > Hi Don, > > > > Would it be possible to get a fax of the Field approval done on your > > plane? > > > > What was the kit# installed; 199-??? > > > > I'm trying to submit a 337 to put clevelands on my straight 560. I beleive > > the kit 199-88 is the correct one. Can you confirm? > > > > I appreciate your help. > > > > Daniel > > > > fax 831.471.9353 > > > > > > Lowell Girod wrote: > > From: "Lowell Girod" > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: Commander-List: cleveland brakes on AC560 > > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:48:36 -0500 > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" > > > > Dan; > > > > My 560E has Clevelands, think Harry might have been the one to do it, not > > sure. If you need me to, I can get out the paper work and see how it was > > done. > > > > Don > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Daniel Stewart > >> To: > >> Date: 2/24/2005 4:20:08 AM > >> Subject: Commander-List: cleveland brakes on AC560 > >> > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart > > > >> > >> > >> Has any 560 owners replaced there Goodyear Brakes with Cleveland brakes? > > And if so, was it with an STC or field approval? > >> > >> Thanks, Dan > >> > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a 3-in-1 engine guage in useable condition if anyone might have one. part # 3850031-1 I think... -------------- Original message -------------- -- Commander-List message posted by: "Avtec2" I need to find it. 199-80 Kit. I have a used set Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Stewart" To: "commander-list" Subject: Commander-List: 337 for cleveland conversion -- Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart Hi Don, Would it be possible to get a fax of the Field approval done on your plane? What was the kit# installed; 199-??? I'm trying to submit a 337 to put clevelands on my straight 56 0. I beleive the kit 199-88 is the correct one. Can you confirm? I appreciate your help. Daniel fax 831.471.9353 Lowell Girod wrote: From: "Lowell Girod" To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Commander-List: cleveland brakes on AC560 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:48:36 -0500 -- Commander-List message posted by: "Lowell Girod" Dan; My 560E has Clevelands, think Harry might have been the one to do it, not sure. If you need me to, I can get out the paper work and see how it was done. Don [Original Message] From: Daniel Stewart
To: Date: 2/24/2005 4:20:08 AM Subject: Commander-List: cleveland brakes on AC560 -- Commander-List message posted by: Daniel Stewart Has any 560 owners replaced there Goodyear Brakes with Cleveland brakes? And if so, was it with an STC or field approval? Thanks, Dan --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:07 PM PST US From: Dan Farmer Subject: Commander-List: Parts --> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer Commander-List Digest Server wrote:* ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. 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HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list/Digest.Commander-List.2005-07-26.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list/Digest.Commander-List.2005-07-26.txt ================================================ EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================ Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/26/05: 5 Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:06 AM - Re: (no subject) (BertBerry1@aol.com) 2. 06:40 AM - Re: Brochures etc (Barry Collman) 3. 06:56 AM - Re: Brochures etc (BertBerry1@AOL.COM) 4. 03:15 PM - Tail Stand and 680F(p) (Moe) 5. 04:36 PM - Re: Tail Stand and 680F(p) (John Vormbaum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:02 AM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: (no subject) --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Many years ago my father was a Commander Dealer, and I grew up flying in just about all of them. He owned the first 681 Hawk, S/N 6001, and it was a demonstrator, which as you can imagine, came with a lot of brochures, photos and such. So I started the Twin Commander collection with the Hawk stuff I found in some boxes about 10 years ago. Then about 6 or 7 years ago, I began wondering what had happened to all the 1121 Jet Commanders and this is where the collection really sparked my interest. Over the years I've collected just about all of the ads I could put my hands on. I'm sure there are still several hundred that I don't have, but I'll get them one at a time slowly but surely. As luck would have it, one of my fathers pilots and dear friends was a Aero Commander test pilot, so I was able to get a lot of knowledge from him. But it really doesn't mean much to me if I can't share it with some people who really enjoy the collection. But thanks to Nico, everyone has the ability to look at the history of these great airplanes. Bert ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:01 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Brochures etc --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi All, I'd just like to publicly say a big "Thank You" to Bert for gathering all this stuff in for safe-keeping. Over the last couple of years, Bert has been good enough to keep me copied-in with everything he's collected and I think it's really good of him to share it all with us. Capt JimBob has also been collecting similar 'goodies', so we're assured of a growing collection! A friend of mine, Chris Haag, who accompanied me on my last research trip to Twin Commander, digitally photographed a number of Brochures. If there's anything new, I'm sure he won't mind sharing it all. So, to Bert & Jim, "Thanks Guys!" Oh! and thanks too go to Nico for hosting the means of us accessing it all. One question Bert, what was the name of the Aero Commander test pilot you and your father knew? Very Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: (no subject) | --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com | | Many years ago my father was a Commander Dealer, and I grew up flying in just | about all of them. He owned the first 681 Hawk, S/N 6001, and it was a | demonstrator, which as you can imagine, came with a lot of brochures, photos and | such. So I started the Twin Commander collection with the Hawk stuff I found in | some boxes about 10 years ago. Then about 6 or 7 years ago, I began | wondering what had happened to all the 1121 Jet Commanders and this is where the | collection really sparked my interest. Over the years I've collected just about all | of the ads I could put my hands on. I'm sure there are still several hundred | that I don't have, but I'll get them one at a time slowly but surely. | | As luck would have it, one of my fathers pilots and dear friends was a Aero | Commander test pilot, so I was able to get a lot of knowledge from him. | | But it really doesn't mean much to me if I can't share it with some people | who really enjoy the collection. But thanks to Nico, everyone has the ability | to look at the history of these great airplanes. | | Bert | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:54 AM PST US From: BertBerry1@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Brochures etc --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Robert "Bob" Merryman, What a Guy! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:54 PM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" JB At one time you had some tail stands for sale. Do you still have them, and are they the type that were fairly easy to add weight to (for pulling the nose wheel off the ground). It seems that someone felt that they needed mine (a framed 55 gallon barrell with casters which could be filled with water for weight) worse than I did. Also, what ever happened to the 680F(p) that you were thinking about putting LS6 engines in? I am flying up to Morris' this Friday. Shall I take my tools and start stripping it or is it still over by the bay? -- Just kidding! Moe N680RR 680F(p) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:02 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Moe, The 680fp airframe is still at Hayward, over on the nat'l guard (south) side of the field. I understand from Morris that the empennage sustained some damage in the move but I don't know the details; he can give you a clearer picture of the condition when you fly up. If you're coming Friday, maybe I'll see you out at Morris'. I often fly over for lunch on Fridays. Cheers, /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > JB > > At one time you had some tail stands for sale. Do you still have them, and are they the type that were fairly easy to add weight to (for pulling the nose wheel off the ground). It seems that someone felt that they needed mine (a framed 55 gallon barrell with casters which could be filled with water for weight) worse than I did. > > Also, what ever happened to the 680F(p) that you were thinking about putting LS6 engines in? I am flying up to Morris' this Friday. Shall I take my tools and start stripping it or is it still over by the bay? -- Just kidding! > > Moe > N680RR > 680F(p) > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:30 PM PST US From: Dan Farmer Subject: Commander-List: Parts --> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer I found the flap transmitter (potentiometer) for my 500B at Dodson International (www.dodson.com) for $150 which may seem high but was $309 cheaper than the next place. It fixed the problem. I am looking for a pilot door if anyone knows of one. dan farmer 6369U Commander-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Commander-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list/Digest.Commander-List.2005-07-26.html Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list/Digest.Commander-List.2005-07-26.txt ================================================ EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================ Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/26/05: 5 Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:06 AM - Re: (no subject) (BertBerry1@aol.com) 2. 06:40 AM - Re: Brochures etc (Barry Collman) 3. 06:56 AM - Re: Brochures etc (BertBerry1@AOL.COM) 4. 03:15 PM - Tail Stand and 680F(p) (Moe) 5. 04:36 PM - Re: Tail Stand and 680F(p) (John Vormbaum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:02 AM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: (no subject) --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Many years ago my father was a Commander Dealer, and I grew up flying in just about all of them. He owned the first 681 Hawk, S/N 6001, and it was a demonstrator, which as you can imagine, came with a lot of brochures, photos and such. So I started the Twin Commander collection with the Hawk stuff I found in some boxes about 10 years ago. Then about 6 or 7 years ago, I began wondering what had happened to all the 1121 Jet Commanders and this is where the collection really sparked my interest. Over the years I've collected just about all of the ads I could put my hands on. I'm sure there are still several hundred that I don't have, but I'll get them one at a time slowly but surely. As luck would have it, one of my fathers pilots and dear friends was a Aero Commander test pilot, so I was able to get a lot of knowledge from him. But it really doesn't mean much to me if I can't share it with some people who really enjoy the collection. But thanks to Nico, everyone has the ability to look at the history of these great airplanes. Bert ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:01 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Brochures etc --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi All, I'd just like to publicly say a big "Thank You" to Bert for gathering all this stuff in for safe-keeping. Over the last couple of years, Bert has been good enough to keep me copied-in with everything he's collected and I think it's really good of him to share it all with us. Capt JimBob has also been collecting similar 'goodies', so we're assured of a growing collection! A friend of mine, Chris Haag, who accompanied me on my last research trip to Twin Commander, digitally photographed a number of Brochures. If there's anything new, I'm sure he won't mind sharing it all. So, to Bert & Jim, "Thanks Guys!" Oh! and thanks too go to Nico for hosting the means of us accessing it all. One question Bert, what was the name of the Aero Commander test pilot you and your father knew? Very Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: (no subject) | --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com | | Many years ago my father was a Commander Dealer, and I grew up flying in just | about all of them. He owned the first 681 Hawk, S/N 6001, and it was a | demonstrator, which as you can imagine, came with a lot of brochures, photos and | such. So I started the Twin Commander collection with the Hawk stuff I found in | some boxes about 10 years ago. Then about 6 or 7 years ago, I began | wondering what had happened to all the 1121 Jet Commanders and this is where the | collection really sparked my interest. Over the years I've collected just about all | of the ads I could put my hands on. I'm sure there are still several hundred | that I don't have, but I'll get them one at a time slowly but surely. | | As luck would have it, one of my fathers pilots and dear friends was a Aero | Commander test pilot, so I was able to get a lot of knowledge from him. | | But it really doesn't mean much to me if I can't share it with some people | who really enjoy the collection. But thanks to Nico, everyone has the ability | to look at the history of these great airplanes. | | Bert | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:54 AM PST US From: BertBerry1@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Brochures etc --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com Robert "Bob" Merryman, What a Guy! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:54 PM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" JB At one time you had some tail stands for sale. Do you still have them, and are they the type that were fairly easy to add weight to (for pulling the nose wheel off the ground). It seems that someone felt that they needed mine (a framed 55 gallon barrell with casters which could be filled with water for weight) worse than I did. Also, what ever happened to the 680F(p) that you were thinking about putting LS6 engines in? I am flying up to Morris' this Friday. Shall I take my tools and start stripping it or is it still over by the bay? -- Just kidding! Moe N680RR 680F(p) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:02 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Moe, The 680fp airframe is still at Hayward, over on the nat'l guard (south) side of the field. I understand from Morris that the empennage sustained some damage in the move but I don't know the details; he can give you a clearer picture of the condition when you fly up. If you're coming Friday, maybe I'll see you out at Morris'. I often fly over for lunch on Fridays. Cheers, /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" Subject: Commander-List: Tail Stand and 680F(p) > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > JB > > At one time you had some tail stands for sale. Do you still have them, and are they the type that were fairly easy to add weight to (for pulling the nose wheel off the ground). It seems that someone felt that they needed mine (a framed 55 gallon barrell with casters which could be filled with water for weight) worse than I did. > > Also, what ever happened to the 680F(p) that you were thinking about putting LS6 engines in? I am flying up to Morris' this Friday. Shall I take my tools and start stripping it or is it still over by the bay? -- Just kidding! > > Moe > N680RR > 680F(p) > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1177 (20050725) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >