---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/13/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:53 AM - Re: ebay commander N47RR (Bert Berry) 2. 11:59 AM - Re: ebay commander N47RR Probe Mystery (CloudCraft@aol.com) 3. 12:19 PM - Re: ebay commander N47RR Probe Mystery (Tom Fisher) 4. 12:29 PM - Re: ebay commander N47RR Probe Mystery (CloudCraft@aol.com) 5. 06:10 PM - Landing a 747 on a small strip (nico css) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay commander N47RR From: "Bert Berry" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bert Berry" Thank you sir, I'm in Oklahoma City, I'll have to check them out when I get home. Thanks, Bert -----Original Message----- From: "tylor.hall" To: Subject: RE: Commander-List: ebay commander N47RR --> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" Bert, I just sent 25 photos to Nico to put on his web site. Nico offered and I sent them. The engines have low time and one has a prop strike?, but they were last overhauled prior to 1990. 15 years ago. I would have to look it up. It was stored for many years in North Las Vegas. Dick MacCoon tells a story about this airplane when he got it. A Madam in New Orleans owned it and the interior as he got is was early Victorian with lots of red velvet. Mile High Club? Tylor Hall Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay commander --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bert Berry" If anyone has any better photos of this one I sure would like to see them. -----Original Message----- From: CloudCraft@aol.com To:commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay commander --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 12-Aug-05 17:13:51 Pacific Daylight Time, barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes: If the one pictured on eBay is the one offered for sale, then the paint job and panel are a match. Indeed. N47RR was formerly based at North Las Vegas (KVGT) where it was actually hangared off-field in the days when KVGT was "out in the boonies." The city grew up around the airport and it was transported from a warehouse where the former owner kept it (estate sale) and trailered to KVGT. First time I saw it, it was still on the trailer. The rudder lock was not on, so I took matters into my own hands, entered and placed the control lock on. That gave me a bit of time to look over the interior and panel. I looked it over for Tylor Hall and photographed it. It was a very nice looking aircraft. Unfortunately, during it annual, it had the hydraulic actuator lines switched and during an engine test run, the right main gear retracted and resulted in a prop strike on the right engine. Next time I saw the airplane, I thought it had had Q-Tip props put on, until I realized it was on one side only. Amazingly, the I.A. who owned the shop told me that the right engine didn't need a tear down because "the prop only dug into the pavement 1/2 inch." I was not aware Lycoming had a 1/2 inch cirteria for a non-prop stike event, but I'm always open to learning something new in this business from an expert. I photographed the belly damage after it got back on its feet. It was ferried to Florida some time after that and one of our Group was selling it. Of interest on this particular model: It was NOT converted to 5606 fluid so it is still a Skydrol airplane. It also had a probe, aft of the nose, copilot side, that I had never seen before and still don't know what it was/is. My over-all impression of N47RR from my look at it a couple of years ago was that it was very clean, had nearly new hoses and lines in the engine compartments, had a leather and southwestern theme carpet that I ended up really liking. Looks like a more conservative, beige carpet has replaced that. If I had the money, I would have bought it, but would have ferried it to Morris Kernick for its annual / return to service after such long storage. That would have avoided the damage history. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. bertberry1@aol.com bertberry1@aol.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:55 AM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay commander N47RR Probe Mystery --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com Nico, Again, thanks for putting up the Commander info on your site. And since you love to give us brain teasers, I'm going to ask the great minds of this email net to identify what that probe is on N47RR. Please take a look at the following photos and offer up your answer: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:24 PM 39859 47RR210.jpg Friday, August 12, 2005 11:24 PM 26295 47RR211.jpg On the photo archive, look at 47RR211.jpg for the close up. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:49 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay commander N47RR Probe Mystery --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" I think it is a true airspeed sensor, did you notice the True Airspeed & Altimeter in the forward starboard of the cabin? Tom F. C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay commander N47RR Probe Mystery > --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > Nico, > > Again, thanks for putting up the Commander info on your site. > > And since you love to give us brain teasers, I'm going to ask the great minds > of this email net to identify what that probe is on N47RR. > > Please take a look at the following photos and offer up your answer: > > Friday, August 12, 2005 11:24 PM 39859 47RR210.jpg > > Friday, August 12, 2005 11:24 PM 26295 47RR211.jpg > > On the photo archive, look at 47RR211.jpg for the close up. > > Wing Commander Gordon > > > Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:01 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: ebay commander N47RR Probe Mystery --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 13-Aug-05 12:20:25 Pacific Daylight Time, tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes: I think it is a true airspeed sensor, did you notice the True Airspeed & Altimeter in the forward starboard of the cabin? >> Good one, Tom. Of course, I think your guess is a good one because it's pretty close to mine. I think it's an air temperature probe (buy why the venturi?) which would be part of an air data package that would drive a TAS indicator. Wing Commander Gordon Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:11 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: Landing a 747 on a small strip --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" You might have seen this before. But that has never stopped me from sending you a story again, huh? Nico http://www.skypark.org/747Landing.htm