---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/20/05: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:28 AM - Re: Aviation Converters and Calculators (Tom Fisher) 2. 09:29 AM - Re: 500B OCTOBER 1983 PILOT REPORT (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 3. 12:23 PM - exhaust noise (Chris Schuermann) 4. 05:52 PM - Re: exhaust noise (Bill Bow) 5. 09:31 PM - Tom Fisher: Blue Twin Commander at Abbotsford (Andrew & Bridget Watson) 6. 10:21 PM - Re: 500B OCTOBER 1983 PILOT REPORT (nico css) 7. 11:18 PM - Re: Tom Fisher: Blue Twin Commander at Abbotsford (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:13 AM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aviation Converters and Calculators --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" Thanks very much Bill, some of that seems familiar I will get current on those. Tom F. C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: "W J R HAMILTON" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aviation Converters and Calculators > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > > Tom, > > Three time table works pretty well, "close enough for Government work", as > they say. > > Three degrees is 320 ft a mile, even if you ignore the 20, it's close, give > or take a bit for the threshold elevation (say the African high veldt, or > Leadville) and the actual glideslope. If you use Jeppesen, there are some > very useful tables in the "Tables and Codes" tab. > > Another useful rule of thumb, particularly useful on a non precision > approach, especially on a "black hole" approach is for Rate of Descent: > > "Half the groundspeed plus 50" > > Ergo: Groudspeed say 120 kt. therefor "half" = "60" + 50 = 650 fpm for a 3 > degree descent. > > Works on everything from my 500A through to the B747-438, in my experience. > > Cheers, > Bill Hamilton > > > At 00:22 20/08/2005, you wrote: > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > > > >Nice assortment of conversions, one thing missing was a > >slope/distant/altitude calculator. > >i.e. how many miles back will I intercept the glide slope at this altitude? > >I used to know it but I can't find a reference to this common calculation > >and I can't remember my geometry formula. > > > >Tom F. > >C-GISS > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet Services > and Warbirds.Net. & . > This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. It > is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you are > not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying of > this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal privilege > attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the > mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in error, please > notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 > Dolores capitis non fero. Eos do. > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:53 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B OCTOBER 1983 PILOT REPORT --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 8/19/2005 9:01:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, CloudCraft@AOL.COM writes: Just for fun, a rough field technique on a 680 E or F is: Full up elevator, release brakes and unstick in a few seconds! Yep, and you had better have the thing already pointed where you want it to go, because in about 4 seconds , it will be there!!! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:35 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Commander-List: exhaust noise --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann I seem to recall that a Commander owner was going to perform some experiments in an attempt to quite their exhaust noise down. As an owner of an augmentor-tube tube airplane which makes quite a bit of noise (IMO a beautiful sound) I'd be very interested in the results of any experiments. We're beginning to get some complaints at our airport and would like to be proactive in this area. thanks Chris ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:50 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: exhaust noise --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" It was a delegate from down under I think. bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" Subject: Commander-List: exhaust noise > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > I seem to recall that a Commander owner was going to perform some > experiments in an attempt to quite their exhaust noise down. As an > owner of an augmentor-tube tube airplane which makes quite a bit of > noise (IMO a beautiful sound) I'd be very interested in the results of > any experiments. We're beginning to get some complaints at our airport > and would like to be proactive in this area. > thanks > Chris > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:38 PM PST US From: "Andrew & Bridget Watson" Subject: Commander-List: Tom Fisher: Blue Twin Commander at Abbotsford --> Commander-List message posted by: "Andrew & Bridget Watson" Tom, At the Abbotsford airshow on Sunday, I saw a really nice blue Twin Commander. Didn't get close to it as the kids were dragging me off to see other less important aircraft, like the stealth fighter, for example. :- ) Was the Twin Commander yours? It looked really nice. Wish I'd got a good look at it. Best Regards, Andrew ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:49 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B OCTOBER 1983 PILOT REPORT --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" Yes, I received them thanks. I will be scanning them up asap. Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B OCTOBER 1983 PILOT REPORT > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > Nico, > > Thanks again for hosting these. > > Did you get the UPS box with two articles in it? > > Moe > N680RR > 680F(p) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nico css" > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B OCTOBER 1983 PILOT REPORT > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > > > > Folks, > > This is where it is > > > http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/Articles%20Manuals%20etc/_8-19-2005/ > > Thanks > > Nico > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Subject: Commander-List: 500B OCTOBER 1983 PILOT REPORT > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com > > > > > > I just sent Nico the October 1983 Private Pilot Report on the 500B, so > be > > > looking for it. > > > > > > Thanks again Nico. > > > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:15 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Tom Fisher: Blue Twin Commander at Abbotsford --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" No, unfortunately the week before I blew a seal in a hydraulic pump and pumped $800.00 worth of hydraulic fluid overboard. Sent the pump for overhaul I will have it Monday. I did not see a Commander on the field except for the 690's that belong to the fire fighting company Conair Tom F. C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew & Bridget Watson" Subject: Commander-List: Tom Fisher: Blue Twin Commander at Abbotsford > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Andrew & Bridget Watson" > > Tom, > > At the Abbotsford airshow on Sunday, I saw a really nice blue Twin > Commander. Didn't get close to it as the kids were dragging me off to see > other less important aircraft, like the stealth fighter, for example. :- ) > > Was the Twin Commander yours? It looked really nice. Wish I'd got a good > look at it. > > Best Regards, > Andrew > >