---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/22/05: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:42 AM - commander flyin (rjhinm@atlantic.net) 2. 10:11 AM - Hypothetical Vacuum Question, No not Electrolux (steve2) 3. 12:29 PM - Re: Hypothetical Vacuum Question, No not Electrolux (Chris Schuermann) 4. 01:21 PM - Fw: Cellphones (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 5. 01:28 PM - Re: Fw: Cellphones (Bill Bow) 6. 01:46 PM - Re: Fw: Cellphones (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 7. 02:17 PM - 1965 Flight Magazine (BertBerry1@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:46 AM PST US From: rjhinm@atlantic.net Subject: Commander-List: commander flyin --> Commander-List message posted by: rjhinm@atlantic.net I would like to attend the next commander flyin if I can get the necessary details. Thanks Ron Hinman rjhinm@earthlink.net 352-307-8809 fax 352-427-7272 cell This message was sent through Atlantic.Net Webmail. Sick of pop-up ads and climbing prices? Visit www.atlantic.net to get pure Internet for $19.95/mo. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:11:54 AM PST US From: "steve2" Subject: Commander-List: Hypothetical Vacuum Question, No not Electrolux --> Commander-List message posted by: "steve2" Folks, I don't know how similar the vacuum systems are between the earlier and later airframes, but I've got a question for the group.... I've had two occasions in the past year and a half when I've lost a good vacuum driven HSI on our 500B, with no indication on the gauges that anything was wrong with vacuum. Upon starting up the next time, its fine. The instrument bench checks good (a Century NSD-360). All vacuum lines are new or recent. The problem has occured both before and after some major panel work for new avionics. All lines and hoses behind the instrument panel have been replaced. A needle tap was inserted into the line behind the instrument, and there was normal vacuum during a ground run. The HSI has a heading flag to indicate loss of vacuum or electric power that works fine. At one time, according to the service manual, the Commander's instruments had their own seperate intake and filter. Now pilot and co-pilot instruments are ganged into two individual lines leading to the nose compartment and one common filter. They have been like this for many years.... The new avionics had us remove two vacuum instruments, so the 'load' is less, but I still lost the HSI the other day. I have noticed one of the lines slightly flattened in the nose compartment, just prior to entry into the filter. I'm thinking it is possible to have a flattened line suck closed and the regulators compensate so much so that a gauge indicates normal suction, but with little or no flow through that side. The question to the group would be to what degree can a vacuum system have its flow reduced before the regulators can no longer compensate? Or is it possible with our system to have no flow, yet have a normal vacuum indication? I'd be interested to know what people think. Thanks, Steve ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:46 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hypothetical Vacuum Question, No not Electrolux --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann steve2 wrote: > The question to the group would be to what degree can a vacuum system have > its flow reduced before the regulators can no longer compensate? Or is it > possible with our system to have no flow, yet have a normal vacuum > indication? I'd say you've probably found the problem. You can certainly pinch off the filter side and have a normal vacuum reading. The regulator just opens up to let outside air be sucked into the pump. If the lines are visibly "flattened" that should be a good sign that they're collapsing in use. May not even be the correct type of hose. If they're collapsing between the gyro and the filter, that is a sign that the filter is plugged up. They can look great but still substantially limit flow. chris ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:03 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" "BILL WILSON" , "BROOKE D HARLOW" , "carol haskins" , "CLOUDCRAFT" , "commander-list" , "DAN BRUHL" , "diane yoder" , "fbailey" , "GINGER HIGGINBOTHAM" , "ISSAC MANNING" , "Jay Decker" Subject: Commander-List: Fw: Cellphones 0.14 FROM_NO_LOWER From address has no lower-case characters --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Message ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Naso Subject: FW: Cellphones From: Dan Swarthout [mailto:dswarthout@coakleywilliams.com] Subject: Cellphones FYI - > >JUST A REMINDER... 31 days from today, cell phone > >numbers are being released to telemarketing companies > >and you will start to receive sale calls.YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR > >THESE CALLS... > > > >To prevent this, call the following number from your > >cell phone: 888/382-1222. It is the National DO NOT > >CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your > >number for five (5) years. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:09 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fw: Cellphones --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Not exactly http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" ; "BILL WILSON" ; "BROOKE D HARLOW" ; "carol haskins" ; "CLOUDCRAFT" ; "commander-list" ; "DAN BRUHL" ; "diane yoder" ; "fbailey" ; "GINGER HIGGINBOTHAM" ; "ISSAC MANNING" ; "Jay Decker" Subject: Commander-List: Fw: Cellphones > --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" > > Message > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christopher Naso > To: 'Austin Champion' ; 'George > Chevaillier' ; > billratliffIV@hotmail.com ; > chasehagin@aol.com ; > willthethrill@mail.utexas.edu ; > 'Myles King' ; 'Palmer, > Stephanie' ; 'Jason > Palmer' ; 'Jenniann > Colon' ; 'Caleb > Miller' ; > dpnaso@aol.com > Subject: FW: Cellphones > > > From: Dan Swarthout [mailto:dswarthout@coakleywilliams.com] > To: 'Brendan Foley (bfoley14@hotmail.com)'; > 'Calie Brennan > (calie@drinkmorewater.com)'; 'Chris > Heuberger (cheuberg@vt.edu)'; 'Chris Naso > (cnaso00@mail.utexas.edu)'; 'Cinderblock > (joseph.sufczynski@gmail.com)'; > 'Dave Braggins > (DBraggins@accredhome.com)'; 'Joey > Winkler (winklerjrw@yahoo.com)'; 'Matt > Gravy (Matthew.Garvey@puma.com)'; > 'Mickey Rayburn > (mick.rayburn@whiting-turner.com)'; > 'Mike Clark (clarky002647@yahoo.com)'; > 'Mike McTavish (mctmct15@aol.com)'; 'Mike > Swarthout (mswarthout@jinfonet.com)'; > 'Pat Dowd (pdowd2@hotmail.com)'; 'Pat > Zimmerman (patzimm! > _15@yahoo.com)'; 'Patrick Cosgrove > (Pcosgrove@jonesnet.com)'; 'Sam Moore > (cpsfinest@msn.com)'; 'Thomas Jackman > (tom.jackman@cbre.com)' > Subject: Cellphones > > > FYI - > > >> >JUST A REMINDER... 31 days from today, cell phone >> >numbers are being released to telemarketing companies >> >and you will start to receive sale calls.YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR >> >THESE CALLS... >> > >> >To prevent this, call the following number from your >> >cell phone: 888/382-1222. It is the National DO NOT >> >CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your >> >number for five (5) years. > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:30 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fw: Cellphones --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" bb, oh well we tried. mason ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bow To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fw: Cellphones --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" > Not exactly http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp bilbo ----- Original Message ----- From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" > To: "B J YOUNG" >; "BILL MUNRO" >; "BILL WILSON" >; "BROOKE D HARLOW" >; "carol haskins" >; "CLOUDCRAFT" >; "commander-list" >; "DAN BRUHL" >; "diane yoder" >; "fbailey" >; "GINGER HIGGINBOTHAM" >; "ISSAC MANNING" >; "Jay Decker" > Subject: Commander-List: Fw: Cellphones > --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" > > > Message > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christopher Naso> > To: 'Austin Champion'> ; 'George > Chevaillier'> ; > billratliffIV@hotmail.com> ; > chasehagin@aol.com> ; > willthethrill@mail.utexas.edu> ; > 'Myles King'> ; 'Palmer, > Stephanie'> ; 'Jason > Palmer'> ; 'Jenniann > Colon'> ; 'Caleb > Miller'> ; > dpnaso@aol.com> > Subject: FW: Cellphones > > > From: Dan Swarthout [mailto:dswarthout@coakleywilliams.com] > To: 'Brendan Foley (bfoley14@hotmail.com)'>; > 'Calie Brennan > (calie@drinkmorewater.com)'>; 'Chris > Heuberger (cheuberg@vt.edu)'>; 'Chris Naso > (cnaso00@mail.utexas.edu)'>; 'Cinderblock > (joseph.sufczynski@gmail.com)'>; > 'Dave Braggins > (DBraggins@accredhome.com)'>; 'Joey > Winkler (winklerjrw@yahoo.com)'>; 'Matt > Gravy (Matthew.Garvey@puma.com)'>; > 'Mickey Rayburn > (mick.rayburn@whiting-turner.com)'>; > 'Mike Clark (clarky002647@yahoo.com)'>; > 'Mike McTavish (mctmct15@aol.com)'>; 'Mike > Swarthout (mswarthout@jinfonet.com)'>; > 'Pat Dowd (pdowd2@hotmail.com)'>; 'Pat > Zimmerman (patzimm! > _15@yahoo.com)'>; 'Patrick Cosgrove > (Pcosgrove@jonesnet.com)'>; 'Sam Moore > (cpsfinest@msn.com)'>; 'Thomas Jackman > (tom.jackman@cbre.com)'> > Subject: Cellphones > > > FYI - > > >> >JUST A REMINDER... 31 days from today, cell phone >> >numbers are being released to telemarketing companies >> >and you will start to receive sale calls.YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR >> >THESE CALLS... >> > >> >To prevent this, call the following number from your >> >cell phone: 888/382-1222. It is the National DO NOT >> >CALL list. It will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your >> >number for five (5) years. > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:29 PM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: 1965 Flight Magazine --> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com New stuff on the way to Nico. Bert