---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/07/05: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:03 AM - used simmonds 580SU (jmenchetti@cantv.net) 2. 08:06 AM - Re: Aircraft Heaters (Moe) 3. 06:23 PM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/06/05 (Dan Farmer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:09 AM PST US From: "jmenchetti@cantv.net" Subject: Commander-List: used simmonds 580SU --> Commander-List message posted by: "jmenchetti@cantv.net" Dear Gentlemen, im looking for 2 simmonds 580SU units, in to be overhauled condition, many thanks ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:30 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aircraft Heaters --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Don, Glad that you have had the same great good results that I have enjoyed. Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aircraft Heaters > --> Commander-List message posted by: > > I had the heater installed one month ago as they are in "my back yard". > It has worked beautifully "as advertised". Thanks for the heads up and > recommendation as the existing Janitrol unit had never worked correctly. > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: Aircraft Heaters > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > Fellow Commander Drivers: > > You might want to add to your parts source list for heaters: > > C & D Associates > 302 Post Road > Buchanan, MI 49107 (Niles Michigan Airport 3TC) > Phone 269.695.7469 > FAX 269.695.6004 > www.aircraftheater.com > > For less than the price of a stock overhaul, they will install a brand > new C & D unit that has a TBO of 2,000 hours. For the pressurized > models it works completely independent of the troublesome B/C > environmental control. It also does not use the stock combustion air > fan and its assorted paraphernalia. It comes with its own single knob > off/ on temp control switch. They also rebuild stock heaters (but > why?). > > I went back last week and had them install one, and although I have used > it only a couple of hours I am very favorably impressed. > > Moe > N680RR > 680F(p) > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:00 PM PST US From: Dan Farmer Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 09/06/05 --> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer Hi fellow "Commanderers" I hope we are not the only ones staying at the H. Inn on the registration. The gal gave us a AAA rate but we are coming early the 21rst to look around the area. Unfortunately 69U is getting two new cranks and won't be there. dan farmer Commander-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================== Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Commander-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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I would like to make my reservations for room and rental car. Looking forward to all the fun..!! (I probably will arrive on Friday evening, since I am teaching a class at Cal Poly University this quarter that goes through Friday afternoon...darn) Thanks for all your hard work Jim..!! Randy D. 680F / N6253X ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:29 AM PST US From: "Moe" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Voltage Regulators --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Bill, Thanx for the comments. I am very hesitant to get rid of my 100 amp generators just so I can run different voltage regulators. In the next few days I will call Gary Gadberry and see what he has to offer. Regards, Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: "W J R HAMILTON" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Voltage Regulators > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > > Moe, > My 500A is really original, 50 amp. generators, so old that brushes are > hard to come by, except where truck parts are sold, the actual origin of > the generator is an AC-Delco truck unit. > Despite the pre historic 618M-2 Collins VHF - 2 off, 51V-4A Collins ADF by > 2, one old Collins VOR/ILS 51R-8A/51V-5 , marker etc plus King > Transponder,DME and interphone, battery charge etc doesn't seem to have > ever been a problem. > Cheers, > Bill Hamilton > > > At 14:56 1/09/2005, you wrote: > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "tylor.hall" > > > >Moe, > >Gary Gadberry at Air Center owns the STC for the A/C units in Twin > >Commanders and part of the kit is 90 AMP Alternators to carry the extra > >load. I do not know if the alternator mod is an STC by its self. You may > >want to call them to see which regulator they use as part of the STC. > >Tylor Hall > > > > > >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Voltage Regulators > > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > >Bill, > > > >How many amps are the generators on your 500A? Problem is, they advise that > >their voltage regulators will handle a maximum of 50 amps, whereas, my plane > >has 100 amp generators. > > > >Thanx! > > > >Moe > >N680RR > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "W J R HAMILTON" > >To: > >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Voltage Regulators > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > I can testify to the Zeftronics, I have them in the 500A. > > > Neither the previous two owners, nor I have had a problem. > > > Cheers, > > > Bill Hamilton > > > > > > > > > At 07:23 30/08/2005, you wrote: > > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com > > > > > > > >A bazillion years ago (1997, to be exact) a company called Zeftronics > > > >developed and mounted in an Aero Commander, solid state voltage > >regulators > > > >to replace > > > >the Frankenstine units. > > > > > > > >I believe Dennis Polito installed some a few years ago in his AC-500-B. > > > > > > > >If you can't Google it, let me know and I'll try to find archive issues > >of > > > >the Flight Group News that featured these. > > > > > > > >Wing Commander Gordon > > > > > > > >PS: Is it pronounced "Frankenstine" or "Frankensteen?" > > > > > > > >Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE > > > W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet > >Services > > > and Warbirds.Net. & . > > > This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. It > > > is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you are > > > not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying of > > > this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal privilege > > > attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the > > > mistaken delivery to you.If you have received this message in error, > >please > > > notify us immediately to Australia 61 (0)408 876 526 > > > Dolores capitis non fero. 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Eos do. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:06 AM PST US From: todd@hindmarsh.us Subject: RE: Commander-List: Old Panels, my 680F panel --> Commander-List message posted by: todd@hindmarsh.us The attachments don't go through on the list. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [SPAM] Commander-List: Old Panels, my 680F panel > From: "jmenchetti@cantv.net" > Date: Mon, September 05, 2005 4:58 am > To: CloudCraft@aol.com, commander-list@matronics.com > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "jmenchetti@cantv.net" > > Dear gentlemen, here are some pics of my 680f panel, before having a > facelift > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:36 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fly-in Reservations --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com Hi Randy, Unfortunately, after 5 weeks of negotiation we were unable to secure a group rate that would be better than what you could get on your own (via phone call, travel site, travel agency). It was an unbelievable experience -- they wanted more for a group rate ($149+) than the standard "rack" rate (~$114) and would have required us to pay for any unused rooms. Understandably, we finally gave up and are letting members book their own. So would suggest you book through your favorite site (like travelocity), through a travel agent or see a list of hotels on the following link: _http://beachcalifornia.travelhero.com/index.cfm/id/139491/aid/68/city/MARINA/ index.html_ (http://beachcalifornia.travelhero.com/index.cfm/id/139491/aid/68/city/MARINA/index.html) . It will probably bring up Holiday Inn, but click on the Marina tab for a list of other hotels. Marina's rates are high for 2-3 star hotels. So, if you're looking for a better deal and don't mind a little commute (5-15 miles) better rates can be found in Seaside (~5 miles) or Salinas (~10-15 miles). Enterprise Rent-a-Car in Seaside will give our members a corporate rate. Call Laura Haaker or Sara Jacobsen at 831-372-4200 and let them know you are with the Twin Commander Flight Group (TCFG) and what time you will need your car and they will pick you up at the airport and shuttle you to their office to pick one up. Let me know if you need any additional information. We're looking forward to seeing everyone. Best Regards, Mrs. Jim Bob ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:05 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: TCFG Newsletter --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com Hi everyone, Hope you all enjoyed the long weekend and sent the summer out in style. The latest issue of the Flight Group News was mailed today and includes the following information: * Fly-In Information * How to get a Pressure Carb Manual * Using a Checklist * Safety Alert * Commanderland News * Great Article on Modernizing a Shrike Also, if you haven't gotten back to us with updates for the TCFG Directory (both personal information and vendor information), please do so ASAP as we will start printing around September 12th and won't be able to make changes after that. The Directory will be given out to TCFG Members at the Fly-In and mailed to the members not in attendance after the Fly-In. Also, at this year's Fly-In we will be offering members who bring their airplanes a free "walk around" tech inspection by a panel of experts (there will be a charge for non members). If you're not a member you can join at _www.aerocommander.com_ (http://www.aerocommander.com) or can contact us directly for a membership form. Capt Jim Bob ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:05 PM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Commander-List: Fly_in --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Guys, Well, I'm booked into the Comfort Inn, on Reservation Road, Marina for the Fly-In. Anyone else booked in there? Really looking forward to seeing some new faces and meeting up with some old ones! Also looking forward to seeing some new paint jobs (one which was long overdue!!). Sincere Best Regards, Barry ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:18 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Commander-List: Matronics Web Server Upgrade Today Tuesday 09/06/05 5pm PDT --> Commander-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today, Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for about 2 hours beginning at 5pm PDT. Incoming and outgoing email will be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web server and won't be available during the upgrade): http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/ Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:10 PM PST US From: John Towner Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fly_in --> Commander-List message posted by: John Towner *Barry,* We will try to book too at the Comfort Inn at Marina. We wish everyone could stay at the same place but hopefully all will workout. PS-Andrew has been working on buildfing a Commander simulator for us, attached is a picture from the prototype we thought you might enjoy. Are you going to bring N4007H? and we hope all is well with her. *YOUR FRIENDS, Andrew & John Towner* Barry Collman wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > >Hi Guys, > >Well, I'm booked into the Comfort Inn, on Reservation Road, Marina for the >Fly-In. > >Anyone else booked in there? > >Really looking forward to seeing some new faces and meeting up with some old >ones! > >Also looking forward to seeing some new paint jobs (one which was long >overdue!!). > >Sincere Best Regards, >Barry > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:57 PM PST US From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Fly_in --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" Kip and I are booked at the Comfort Inn too. Looking forward to seeing you guys Friday afternoon or evening. Randy D. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Towner Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fly_in --> Commander-List message posted by: John Towner *Barry,* We will try to book too at the Comfort Inn at Marina. We wish everyone could stay at the same place but hopefully all will workout. PS-Andrew has been working on buildfing a Commander simulator for us, attached is a picture from the prototype we thought you might enjoy. Are you going to bring N4007H? and we hope all is well with her. *YOUR FRIENDS, Andrew & John Towner* Barry Collman wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" > >Hi Guys, > >Well, I'm booked into the Comfort Inn, on Reservation Road, Marina for the >Fly-In. > >Anyone else booked in there? > >Really looking forward to seeing some new faces and meeting up with some old >ones! > >Also looking forward to seeing some new paint jobs (one which was long >overdue!!). > >Sincere Best Regards, >Barry > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:06 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: Website --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" We are now manufacturing this www.nicsysco.com so if you have important data on your computer and fear you might lose it if your equipment fails, let me know. Even though the website is pitched to the business owner, data on one's home computer or laptop is equally important and expensive to replace. Thanks Nico PS. Sorry about this shameless plug. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:03 PM PST US From: "Tommy Mathieu" Subject: Commander-List: Info on service bulletin & AD 7.50 BARRACUDA_HEADER_FP56 RBL: Blacklist bl.spamcop [Blocked - see ] --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tommy Mathieu" I have an AD I need to take care of on a Shrike Commander I own. I just bought the plane a year ago and AD 940419 is due. It is an ultrasound on the wing spar. One is due yearly and another approximately every 36 months. Both are currently due. Can anyone give me any information on the most reasonable place to have this performed and its approximate cost? I would greatly appreciate any assistance you can provide. The airplane is based in North Louisiana. Sincerely, Tommy Mathieu, member ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:51 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aircraft Heaters --> Commander-List message posted by: I had the heater installed one month ago as they are in "my back yard". It has worked beautifully "as advertised". Thanks for the heads up and recommendation as the existing Janitrol unit had never worked correctly. Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Subject: Commander-List: Aircraft Heaters --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" Fellow Commander Drivers: You might want to add to your parts source list for heaters: C & D Associates 302 Post Road Buchanan, MI 49107 (Niles Michigan Airport 3TC) Phone 269.695.7469 FAX 269.695.6004 www.aircraftheater.com For less than the price of a stock overhaul, they will install a brand new C & D unit that has a TBO of 2,000 hours. For the pressurized models it works completely independent of the troublesome B/C environmental control. It also does not use the stock combustion air fan and its assorted paraphernalia. It comes with its own single knob off/ on temp control switch. They also rebuild stock heaters (but why?). I went back last week and had them install one, and although I have used it only a couple of hours I am very favorably impressed. Moe N680RR 680F(p)