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1. 12:19 AM - Moe's Famous! (John Vormbaum)
2. 12:25 AM - Re: Hydraulic problem (Tom Fisher)
3. 05:38 AM - Re: Fly-In (nico css)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: MARINA (Moe)
5. 11:25 AM - Re: Hydraulic problem (Jim Addington)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
If you have "The Outdoor Channel", tune in to this week's "Wings to Adventure".
It features a special on EAA's Airventure, and twice shows Moe's 680FP, N680RR,
taxiing past the camera on the grass as the host talks about the aviation fans
that the event attracts. Way to represent the TCFG, Moe!
/John
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| Subject: | Re: Hydraulic problem |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Sounds like an expensive way to go, sorry.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hydraulic problem
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
>
> I went through that same problem with my 500A. After four failures and
> changing one hose, one pump then both pumps, then all hoses and both pumps
> we changed the accumulator and that solved the problem until one of the
new
> hoses failed.
> Jim
> N444BD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom
> Fisher
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Hydraulic problem
>
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>
> Gentlemen et al,
>
> Two items:
>
> My local engeneering force is struggling with an hydraulic problem using
my
> wallet as energy.
>
> I have had both engine driven hydraulic pumps overhauled.
> In 35 hours the right pump start to pour the Skydrol (yes Skydrol)
overboard
> through the bypass drain hose.
>
> When I called "Thunderbird" (who overhauled it) they told me that I did
not
> have a pump problem but a "check valve" or "pressure relief valve" or
> "accumulator" problem, (anything but a pump problem). He said that if the
> check valve (or any of the above items) are not working correctly it will
> let pressure get onto the suction side of the system and will roll an
> internal seal in the pump it'self.
>
> Has anyone got information that could enlighten me instead of my engineers
> making my wallet lighter?
>
> Second item:
>
> When this aircraft was delivered to me there was no hydraulic filter (or
> assembly) in the hydraulic resevoir.
> I have already purchased a used filter for a large fortune but need 6 more
> parts to complete the installation.
>
> The 6 parts I need to find are as follows;
> Qty. 1 - Plate - Part number 2790168-3
> Qty. 3 - Gasket - Part number 5790162-7
> Qty. 1 - Welded assembly - Part number 5790162-16
> Qty. 1 - Nut, shank (73168) - Part number 92NL22-02
> Qty. 1 - Washer - Part number AN970-4
> Qty. 1 - Gasket - Part number 2790168-5
>
> Does anyone have a source for any of the above items, please?
>
> Tom F. (tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca)
> C-GISS
> 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Jim,
Sadly, I wouldn't be able to attend the fly-in this year. Give my regards to
everyone. Although I have never met any of you personally, it feels as if
you all are already old friends. :-)
I have not heard from Dan yet, but I am sure that we would get the TCFG
website updated soon. It would be nice if someone could take pictures of the
events, write a narrative, and send them to me for publication.
Have fun!
Nico
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Fly-In
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
> WHERE DID THE SUMMER GO????
>
> The Fly-In is next week so if you're planning on attending you need to
make
> your hotel reservations as rooms are filling up fast and the price is
going
> up. If the price in Marina is too high for your wallet (some hotels are
now
> charging over $150/night) we would recommend nearby Seaside (~ 5 miles and
> there's a nice Howard Johnson's in the $80 range) or Salinas (~12 miles
with
> many hotels in the $70-90 range).
>
> Also if you have not sent in your registration and are planning to attend,
> PLEASE let us know via email or phone call the number & names in your
party so
> we can have name tags prepared and more importantly an accurate count for
> food (especially the dinner).
>
> We look forward to seeing you all there and having a great time!
>
> jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Let me know when you will be gone, so Linn and I can sneak in while not
being observed!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: MARINA
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Any desire to run up to Columbia tomorrow in my 500-B? I need to do a dry
> run so I have something to say to everyone at the briefing before the
poker
> run on saturday.
>
> I was thinking of a Noon departure or so, so we'd be back in plenty of
time
> to see the "golden pedal" landing competition.
>
> You can reach me anytime at 650-938-9500.
>
> Cheers,
>
> /John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Farmer" <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
> To: <commander-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: MARINA
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer
<daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Teresa and I checked into the Holiday Inn this afternoon. We are in
room
> 237 and my cell phone is 719 332 5601. If anyone needs anything or wants
> to get together please call.
> >
> > dan farmer
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Hydraulic problem |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
It took us a while to break the code.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom
Fisher
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hydraulic problem
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
<tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Sounds like an expensive way to go, sorry.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hydraulic problem
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
>
> I went through that same problem with my 500A. After four failures and
> changing one hose, one pump then both pumps, then all hoses and both pumps
> we changed the accumulator and that solved the problem until one of the
new
> hoses failed.
> Jim
> N444BD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom
> Fisher
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Hydraulic problem
>
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>
> Gentlemen et al,
>
> Two items:
>
> My local engeneering force is struggling with an hydraulic problem using
my
> wallet as energy.
>
> I have had both engine driven hydraulic pumps overhauled.
> In 35 hours the right pump start to pour the Skydrol (yes Skydrol)
overboard
> through the bypass drain hose.
>
> When I called "Thunderbird" (who overhauled it) they told me that I did
not
> have a pump problem but a "check valve" or "pressure relief valve" or
> "accumulator" problem, (anything but a pump problem). He said that if the
> check valve (or any of the above items) are not working correctly it will
> let pressure get onto the suction side of the system and will roll an
> internal seal in the pump it'self.
>
> Has anyone got information that could enlighten me instead of my engineers
> making my wallet lighter?
>
> Second item:
>
> When this aircraft was delivered to me there was no hydraulic filter (or
> assembly) in the hydraulic resevoir.
> I have already purchased a used filter for a large fortune but need 6 more
> parts to complete the installation.
>
> The 6 parts I need to find are as follows;
> Qty. 1 - Plate - Part number 2790168-3
> Qty. 3 - Gasket - Part number 5790162-7
> Qty. 1 - Welded assembly - Part number 5790162-16
> Qty. 1 - Nut, shank (73168) - Part number 92NL22-02
> Qty. 1 - Washer - Part number AN970-4
> Qty. 1 - Gasket - Part number 2790168-5
>
> Does anyone have a source for any of the above items, please?
>
> Tom F. (tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca)
> C-GISS
> 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
>
>
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