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1. 12:09 AM - 2005 Matronics Email List Fund Raiser [Please Read]... (Matt Dralle)
2. 05:45 AM - Re: Commander 500B Cruise performance and (W J R HAMILTON)
3. 06:39 AM - Re: Commander 500B Cruise performance and other questions (RRamm52@cs.com)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: 690 TURBO COMMANDER APRIL 1972 (BertBerry1@aol.com)
5. 06:44 PM - Re: another Commander for sale ()
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| Subject: | 2005 Matronics Email List Fund Raiser [Please Read]... |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 500B Cruise performance and |
other questions
--> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON <wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
other questions
Folks,
One of the claims for the flap gap seals is improved initial climb
performance with the takeoff flap setting.
With a 500A, this interests me, particularly the engine out case.
Any comments, anybody??
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton.
At 07:11 1/11/2005, you wrote:
>--> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com
>
>Thanks, Moe, I appreciate your insight and will have a much more
>comprehensive
>view after I get her home....
>Rob
>
>moe@rosspistons.com writes:
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > Regarding your inquirey about the Shrike mods on a 500B:
> >
> > On my 680F(p) N680RR the shrike nose, winglets and flap gap seals have been
> > installed. The winglets and flap gap seals were installed at the same time
> > by Commander Aero in Dayton, O. so an indivudal analises of the two mods is
> > impossible. Frankly, there did not seem to be too much
> difference in cruise
> > flight Those guys are really first class, and a joy to deal with. As one
> > wag told me before having them installed "if you get the winglets be sure
> > and have the flap gap seals installed, as they will make up for the speed
> > loss that you will get with the winglets". Having said this I
> love them and
> > would gladly have them done again. The winglets give the plane a much
> > better ramp presence. Also, the nav lights (red and green) and strobes can
> > be checked from the pilots seat at night. It does stall without as much
> > buffet, but you still get plenty of warning.
> >
> > The nose conversion also makes the plane look about 100 miles an
> hour faster
> > on the ground. Keep in mind that it is merely a cap over the
> original nose,
> > and the weight penalty is 41 pounds. At the time that it was installed it
> > appeared that the plane was more pitch sensitive after the instillation.
> > Since airplanes are a matter of personal preference, much the same as the
> > style of clothes that we wear and the girls that we choose, again, I would
> > do it all over again.
> >
> > The serious down side of doing a Shrike conversion is that ground control
> > and others actually think that you are a Shrike instead of a real commander
> > with big geared engines (JUST KIDDING!)
> >
> > Moe Mills
> > N680RR
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 500B Cruise performance and other questions |
--> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com
In a message dated 11/1/2005 7:47:13 AM Central Standard Time,
wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au writes:
> Folks,
> One of the claims for the flap gap seals is improved initial climb
> performance with the takeoff flap setting.
> With a 500A, this interests me, particularly the engine out case.
> Any comments, anybody??
> Cheers,
> Bill Hamilton.
Hi, Bill
I have no imperical evidence, however, from an aerodynamic standpoint,
filling those gaping slots in the wings has to help lift. Lets hear fom those that
have the seals...
Thanks, Rob
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| Subject: | Re: 690 TURBO COMMANDER APRIL 1972 |
--> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
Here you go. http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/
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| Subject: | Re: another Commander for sale |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
This guy has an offer for 4500$ and says he will take $5000 for it. He
Says it is complete but apparently has no logs. If I had the time ...
Phil Stubbs
> [Original Message]
> From: Ben Baltrusaitis <ben@gmpexpress.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/31/2005 7:49:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: another Commander for sale
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ben Baltrusaitis"
<ben@gmpexpress.net>
>
> That didn't work.
> Here is some of the info:
>
> COMMANDER 560A 1956, S/N: 275, unknown, 0 SCMOH SCMOH, 0 SHSI, IFR, Good
condition, complete, needs work, located in Kingman AZ, 1990 Paint, 1991
Int, 6 Seats, For Sale - $8,000
>
>
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