Commander-List Digest Archive

Wed 11/02/05


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 04:33 AM - Fuel vales (Dan Farmer)
     2. 07:27 AM - Re: Fuel vales (Moe)
     3. 08:17 AM - "O" Rings (Moe)
     4. 08:30 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Tom Fisher)
     5. 09:21 AM - Re: "O" Rings (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
     6. 09:58 AM - Re: "O" Rings ()
     7. 10:32 AM - Wow (steve2)
     8. 10:37 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Moe)
     9. 10:39 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Moe)
    10. 11:01 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Jerry Sprayberry)
    11. 11:04 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Tom Fisher)
    12. 11:29 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Moe)
    13. 11:31 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Moe)
    14. 11:43 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Jerry Sprayberry)
    15. 11:47 AM - Re: "O" Rings (Tom Fisher)
    16. 12:53 PM - Re: "O" Rings ()
    17. 01:38 PM - Re: "O" Rings (nico css)
    18. 06:38 PM - Re: "O" Rings ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:33:09 AM PST US
    From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Fuel vales
    --> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com> My suggestion is to NOT fly with them closed. Even though you get much better specific nautical miles per gallon your actual range can be alarmingly short:-)) Also I find that my 500B taxis much better when they are NOT in the closed position. farmer


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    Time: 07:27:06 AM PST US
    From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel vales
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Dan, I agree that the taxi situation is much better with the fuel valves in the open position, however, I am not sure about flight. Keeping in mind the high fuel burn on my geared engines, and the cost of gas perhaps I will try it this weekend. Since the trip will be short, the alarmingly short range that you warn about should not be a problem. Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Farmer" <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com> Subject: Commander-List: Fuel vales > --> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com> > > My suggestion is to NOT fly with them closed. Even though you get much better specific nautical miles per gallon your actual range can be alarmingly short:-)) Also I find that my 500B taxis much better when they are NOT in the closed position. > > farmer > >


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    Time: 08:17:26 AM PST US
    From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
    Subject: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Hi, Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings NAS1611 NAS1612 NAS1613 After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my capable assistant has miscounted. Regards, Moe N680RR


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    Time: 08:30:56 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> I will be going down the same road in the not to distant future to change from Skydrol to 5606. Tom F. C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > Hi, > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > NAS1611 > NAS1612 > NAS1613 > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my capable assistant has miscounted. > > Regards, > > Moe > N680RR > >


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    Time: 09:21:22 AM PST US
    From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <KAMALA@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <KAMALA@msn.com> call larry at commander aero 8888815580 mason ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Fisher<mailto:tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> To: commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca<mailto:tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>> I will be going down the same road in the not to distant future to change from Skydrol to 5606. Tom F. C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com<mailto:moe@rosspistons.com>> To: <commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com<mailto:moe@rosspistons.com>> > > Hi, > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > NAS1611 > NAS1612 > NAS1613 > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my capable assistant has miscounted. > > Regards, > > Moe > N680RR > >


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    Time: 09:58:02 AM PST US
    From: <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > Hi, > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > NAS1611 > NAS1612 > NAS1613 > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > capable assistant has miscounted. > > Regards, > > Moe > N680RR > > >


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    Time: 10:32:10 AM PST US
    From: "steve2" <steve2@sover.net>
    Subject: Wow
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "steve2" <steve2@sover.net> I just received this link from a friend. Perhaps some of you might enjoy it. This stuff is gorgeous. Looks to me like a Ted Smith design is prominently featured. So it isn't too far off topic. There is sound. http://www.users.uswest.net/~choice220721678/Aerial_Movie.htm Steve


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    Time: 10:37:51 AM PST US
    From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Tom, N680RR in not being changed from Skydrol to 5606. This is a rather popular change, however, remember the FAA would not originally certify the pressurized by supercharger Commanders with 5606 fluid. Although the Skydrol can be really messy changing over does (in my opinion) substantially reduce the safety of the bird. The reason for the question about the different "O" rings is as follows: while making a list some time ago of all of the "O" rings in N680RR so that a complete set of spares were on hand, it was observed that not all of the "O" rings are of the same NAS number. Regards, Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > I will be going down the same road in the not to distant future to change > from Skydrol to 5606. > > Tom F. > C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > > > NAS1611 > > NAS1612 > > NAS1613 > > > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my capable > assistant has miscounted. > > > > Regards, > > > > Moe > > N680RR > > > > > >


    Message 9


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    Time: 10:39:31 AM PST US
    From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Yes, all three can be used with Skydrol, but the question is..."what is the difference in the three" as the description of all three is the same in all of the technical info that I can find. Thanx! Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> > > The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol > Harry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > > > NAS1611 > > NAS1612 > > NAS1613 > > > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed > > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > > capable assistant has miscounted. > > > > Regards, > > > > Moe > > N680RR > > > > > > > >


    Message 10


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    Time: 11:01:55 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Sprayberry" <capnspray_611@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry Sprayberry" <capnspray_611@hotmail.com> Moe: That is a great Idea, I have been thinking about that ever since I had to overnight in Paducah waiting for O-rings from Larry at Commander Aero. If you get it together Please get me a set for 198JW. I will Pay. Thanks Jerry S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > Yes, all three can be used with Skydrol, but the question is..."what is > the > difference in the three" as the description of all three is the same in > all > of the technical info that I can find. > > Thanx! > > Moe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> >> >> The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol >> Harry >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> >> To: <commander-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings >> >> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings >> > >> > NAS1611 >> > NAS1612 >> > NAS1613 >> > >> > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are >> > listed >> > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. >> > >> > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it >> > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my >> > capable assistant has miscounted. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Moe >> > N680RR >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > >


    Message 11


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    Time: 11:04:24 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> Thanks for that Moe, it has been a real problem supporting Skydrol around here. Tom F. C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > Tom, > > N680RR in not being changed from Skydrol to 5606. This is a rather popular > change, however, remember the FAA would not originally certify the > pressurized by supercharger Commanders with 5606 fluid. Although the > Skydrol can be really messy changing over does (in my opinion) substantially > reduce the safety of the bird. > > The reason for the question about the different "O" rings is as follows: > while making a list some time ago of all of the "O" rings in N680RR so that > a complete set of spares were on hand, it was observed that not all of the > "O" rings are of the same NAS number. > > Regards, > > Moe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > > > I will be going down the same road in the not to distant future to change > > from Skydrol to 5606. > > > > Tom F. > > C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > > > > > NAS1611 > > > NAS1612 > > > NAS1613 > > > > > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed > > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > > > > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > capable > > assistant has miscounted. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Moe > > > N680RR > > > > > > > > > > > >


    Message 12


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    Time: 11:29:28 AM PST US
    From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Jerry, When I get back to the office next week I will email you the complete list. You can usually get them from a local supply house for pennies each. If you can't find one back there, I will refer you to my guy out here. Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Sprayberry" <capnspray_611@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry Sprayberry" <capnspray_611@hotmail.com> > > Moe: > > That is a great Idea, I have been thinking about that ever since I had to > overnight in Paducah waiting for O-rings from Larry at Commander Aero. > > If you get it together Please get me a set for 198JW. I will Pay. > > Thanks > > Jerry S. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > Yes, all three can be used with Skydrol, but the question is..."what is > > the > > difference in the three" as the description of all three is the same in > > all > > of the technical info that I can find. > > > > Thanx! > > > > Moe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> > >> > >> The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol > >> Harry > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > >> To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > >> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > >> > >> > >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > >> > > >> > NAS1611 > >> > NAS1612 > >> > NAS1613 > >> > > >> > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are > >> > listed > >> > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > >> > > >> > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > >> > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > >> > capable assistant has miscounted. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Moe > >> > N680RR > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >


    Message 13


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    Time: 11:31:42 AM PST US
    From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> This is very understandable. One of the first things that I had to do was buy a Skydrol Mule as no one at HHR had one. Moe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > Thanks for that Moe, it has been a real problem supporting Skydrol around > here. > > Tom F. C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > Tom, > > > > N680RR in not being changed from Skydrol to 5606. This is a rather > popular > > change, however, remember the FAA would not originally certify the > > pressurized by supercharger Commanders with 5606 fluid. Although the > > Skydrol can be really messy changing over does (in my opinion) > substantially > > reduce the safety of the bird. > > > > The reason for the question about the different "O" rings is as follows: > > while making a list some time ago of all of the "O" rings in N680RR so > that > > a complete set of spares were on hand, it was observed that not all of the > > "O" rings are of the same NAS number. > > > > Regards, > > > > Moe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > > > > > I will be going down the same road in the not to distant future to > change > > > from Skydrol to 5606. > > > > > > Tom F. > > > C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > > > > > > > NAS1611 > > > > NAS1612 > > > > NAS1613 > > > > > > > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are > listed > > > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > > > > > > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > > > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > > capable > > > assistant has miscounted. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Moe > > > > N680RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


    Message 14


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    Time: 11:43:46 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Sprayberry" <capnspray_611@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry Sprayberry" <capnspray_611@hotmail.com> Thanks Moe Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > Jerry, > > When I get back to the office next week I will email you the complete > list. > You can usually get them from a local supply house for pennies each. If > you > can't find one back there, I will refer you to my guy out here. > > Moe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Sprayberry" <capnspray_611@hotmail.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jerry Sprayberry" > <capnspray_611@hotmail.com> >> >> Moe: >> >> That is a great Idea, I have been thinking about that ever since I had to >> overnight in Paducah waiting for O-rings from Larry at Commander Aero. >> >> If you get it together Please get me a set for 198JW. I will Pay. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jerry S. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> >> To: <commander-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings >> >> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> >> > >> > Yes, all three can be used with Skydrol, but the question is..."what is >> > the >> > difference in the three" as the description of all three is the same in >> > all >> > of the technical info that I can find. >> > >> > Thanx! >> > >> > Moe >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> >> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> >> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings >> > >> > >> >> --> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> >> >> >> >> The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol >> >> Harry >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> >> >> To: <commander-list@matronics.com> >> >> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings >> >> >> >> >> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> >> >> > >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings >> >> > >> >> > NAS1611 >> >> > NAS1612 >> >> > NAS1613 >> >> > >> >> > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are >> >> > listed >> >> > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. >> >> > >> >> > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it >> >> > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my >> >> > capable assistant has miscounted. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > Moe >> >> > N680RR >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > >


    Message 15


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    Time: 11:47:15 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> I bought a power washer and modified it to pump Skydrol. Tom F. C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > This is very understandable. One of the first things that I had to do was > buy a Skydrol Mule as no one at HHR had one. > > Moe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > > > Thanks for that Moe, it has been a real problem supporting Skydrol around > > here. > > > > Tom F. C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > N680RR in not being changed from Skydrol to 5606. This is a rather > > popular > > > change, however, remember the FAA would not originally certify the > > > pressurized by supercharger Commanders with 5606 fluid. Although the > > > Skydrol can be really messy changing over does (in my opinion) > > substantially > > > reduce the safety of the bird. > > > > > > The reason for the question about the different "O" rings is as follows: > > > while making a list some time ago of all of the "O" rings in N680RR so > > that > > > a complete set of spares were on hand, it was observed that not all of > the > > > "O" rings are of the same NAS number. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Moe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > > > > > > > > I will be going down the same road in the not to distant future to > > change > > > > from Skydrol to 5606. > > > > > > > > Tom F. > > > > C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > > > Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > > > > > > > > > NAS1611 > > > > > NAS1612 > > > > > NAS1613 > > > > > > > > > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are > > listed > > > > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > > > > > > > > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > > > > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > > > capable > > > > assistant has miscounted. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Moe > > > > > N680RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


    Message 16


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    Time: 12:53:42 PM PST US
    From: <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> If you Try to change to red fluid you must use 23282 Hyd Fluid Thanks Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > Tom, > > N680RR in not being changed from Skydrol to 5606. This is a rather > popular > change, however, remember the FAA would not originally certify the > pressurized by supercharger Commanders with 5606 fluid. Although the > Skydrol can be really messy changing over does (in my opinion) > substantially > reduce the safety of the bird. > > The reason for the question about the different "O" rings is as follows: > while making a list some time ago of all of the "O" rings in N680RR so > that > a complete set of spares were on hand, it was observed that not all of the > "O" rings are of the same NAS number. > > Regards, > > Moe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> >> >> I will be going down the same road in the not to distant future to change >> from Skydrol to 5606. >> >> Tom F. >> C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> >> To: <commander-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings >> >> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings >> > >> > NAS1611 >> > NAS1612 >> > NAS1613 >> > >> > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are >> > listed >> as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. >> > >> > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it >> appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > capable >> assistant has miscounted. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Moe >> > N680RR >> > >> > >> >> > > >


    Message 17


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    Time: 01:38:59 PM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> Harry, are you involved with this Avtec project? http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AVTEK/ Click on the images of this airplane. Thanks Nico ----- Original Message ----- From: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> > > The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol > Harry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > > > NAS1611 > > NAS1612 > > NAS1613 > > > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed > > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > > capable assistant has miscounted. > > > > Regards, > > > > Moe > > N680RR > > > > > > > >


    Message 18


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    Time: 06:38:52 PM PST US
    From: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: "O" Rings
    --> Commander-List message posted by: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com> Moe, NAS 1611 is the drawing number, it is made of NAS compound 1613 class 1, and is a "preformed packing O-ring, phosphate ester resistant" NAS1612 is the drawing number, it is made of compound specification NAS1613 class 2, and is a "packing preformed, straight thread tube fitting boss, phosphate ester resistant. For those of us using 5606, Aeroshell has a replacement fluid (mil-h-83282) that is compatable and mixable with 5606 that addresses the flamability problems. Phil Stubbs > [Original Message] > From: Moe <moe@rosspistons.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Date: 11/2/2005 1:39:22 PM > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > Yes, all three can be used with Skydrol, but the question is..."what is the > difference in the three" as the description of all three is the same in all > of the technical info that I can find. > > Thanx! > > Moe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net> > > > > The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol > > Harry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > > > > > NAS1611 > > > NAS1612 > > > NAS1613 > > > > > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed > > > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > > > > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > > > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > > > capable assistant has miscounted. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Moe > > > N680RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >




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