---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/03/05: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:12 AM - Re: "O" Rings () 2. 04:37 AM - Re: "O" Rings (MASON Chevaillier) 3. 05:44 AM - FW: Re: "O" Rings () 4. 07:42 AM - Re: "O" Rings (CloudCraft@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:23 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings --> Commander-List message posted by: I Wish Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "nico css" Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > > > Harry, are you involved with this Avtec project? > http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AVTEK/ > Click on the images of this airplane. > Thanks > Nico > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: >> >> The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol >> Harry >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Moe" >> To: >> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings >> >> >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings >> > >> > NAS1611 >> > NAS1612 >> > NAS1613 >> > >> > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are >> > listed >> > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. >> > >> > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it >> > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my >> > capable assistant has miscounted. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Moe >> > N680RR >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:48 AM PST US From: "MASON Chevaillier" Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON Chevaillier" why? mason >From: >Reply-To: commander-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings >Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:52:38 -0500 > >--> Commander-List message posted by: > >If you Try to change to red fluid you must use 23282 Hyd Fluid >Thanks >Harry >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Moe" >To: >Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > > Tom, > > > > N680RR in not being changed from Skydrol to 5606. This is a rather > > popular > > change, however, remember the FAA would not originally certify the > > pressurized by supercharger Commanders with 5606 fluid. Although the > > Skydrol can be really messy changing over does (in my opinion) > > substantially > > reduce the safety of the bird. > > > > The reason for the question about the different "O" rings is as follows: > > while making a list some time ago of all of the "O" rings in N680RR so > > that > > a complete set of spares were on hand, it was observed that not all of >the > > "O" rings are of the same NAS number. > > > > Regards, > > > > Moe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Fisher" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > > >> > >> I will be going down the same road in the not to distant future to >change > >> from Skydrol to 5606. > >> > >> Tom F. > >> C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Moe" > >> To: > >> Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > >> > >> > >> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > >> > > >> > NAS1611 > >> > NAS1612 > >> > NAS1613 > >> > > >> > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are > >> > listed > >> as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > >> > > >> > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > >> appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > > capable > >> assistant has miscounted. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > Moe > >> > N680RR > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:15 AM PST US From: "" Subject: FW: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings --> Commander-List message posted by: "" > [Original Message] > From: > To: ; > Date: 11/2/2005 9:38:27 PM > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > Moe, > NAS 1611 is the drawing number, it is made of NAS compound 1613 class 1, and is a "preformed packing O-ring, phosphate ester resistant" > NAS1612 is the drawing number, it is made of compound specification NAS1613 class 2, and is a "packing preformed, straight thread tube fitting boss, phosphate ester resistant. > > For those of us using 5606, Aeroshell has a replacement fluid (mil-h-83282) that is compatable and mixable with 5606 that addresses the flamability problems. > Phil Stubbs > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Moe > > To: > > Date: 11/2/2005 1:39:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > > Yes, all three can be used with Skydrol, but the question is..."what is the > > difference in the three" as the description of all three is the same in all > > of the technical info that I can find. > > > > Thanx! > > > > Moe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: > > > > > > The NAS1611 and 1613 Are for skydrol > > > Harry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Moe" > > > To: > > > Subject: Commander-List: "O" Rings > > > > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what the difference is on the following "O" rings > > > > > > > > NAS1611 > > > > NAS1612 > > > > NAS1613 > > > > > > > > After surfing the web and checking several catalogs all three are listed > > > > as 'ethylene propylene "O" rings (suitable for Skydroll)'. > > > > > > > > Also, in case anyone has been loosing sleep at night, about this, it > > > > appears that there are 273 skydrol "O" rings in a 680F(p), unless my > > > > capable assistant has miscounted. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Moe > > > > N680RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:10 AM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: "O" Rings --> Commander-List message posted by: CloudCraft@aol.com In a message dated 03-Nov-05 04:38:22 Pacific Standard Time, kamala@msn.com writes: --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON Chevaillier" why? mason Mason, If your question is about using 23282 Hydraulic Fluid, it's because it's completely compatible with 5606 and has a much higher flash point, so it's more fire resistant. Wing Commander Gordon PS: Moe, thanks for getting the O ring count. I slept really well for the first time since 1978 when I first started wondering. Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.