---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/13/05: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:15 AM - Re: Lack of Communication (MASON Chevaillier) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:28 AM PST US From: "MASON Chevaillier" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lack of Communication --> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON Chevaillier" nico, i think the loss of take off performance is from the smaller props. mason i agree with brock this is my second aircraft with the io 720 s, the first being a excaliber queenair. the engines are long lasting and smooth. i get 200 kts at altitude (17 to 10) at 60 to 70 % on 36 to 40 gph. at lower ( 10 to 12) with out turbos i get 189 to 190 on 30 to 34 gph. good ship. mason >From: "Brock Lorber" >Reply-To: commander-list@matronics.com >To: commander-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lack of Communication >Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 04:00:38 +0000 GMT > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Brock Lorber" > >Thanks, Nico. I'll have to admit that I've never flown a stock 680FL(P), so >I don't have any comparison to give. Dick Macoon opined that the takeoff >performance is degraded, while the cruise performance is superior with the >IO-720s. > >For my two cents, I'd give the Mr RPM the big thumbs up for bleed air >pressurization, turbo-normalizing vs supercharging, eliminating the 3000 >psi hydraulic system, and the bigger alternators. I run between 16,000 and >19,000 at 198 to 202 kts TAS @ 65 percent. > >My favorite thing is when an Aerostar driver looks at the plane and brags >about how much faster they are. I always offer to bet pink slips on a >5-hour run. - with 8 passengers! :) > >Yes, we are looking for a dash 10 airplane (fresh or recent HOTS) with >newer interior and newer paint. We don't want to have the hassle of redoing >interior, paint, avionics, or engines this time. > >Brock Lorber >702-510-7728 >N400CH >-----Original Message----- >From: "nico css" >Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:28:13 >To: >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lack of Communication > >--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" > >Very nice, Brock. >Are you considering a dash 10? >Do you believe that the Mr. RPM conversion is worth it on the 680FLP? >Just curious. >Nico > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brock Lorber" >To: >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lack of Communication > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Brock Lorber > > > > > RRamm52@cs.com wrote: > > > > >--> Commander-List message posted by: RRamm52@cs.com > > > > > >I hope someone, somewhere, will mention an aero commander on this list. >Would > > >make all feel better, especially those of us that are digging out from > > >Katrina, a slow and painful process....., Rob > > > > > > > > > > > Alright, I'll take the lead: > > > > 1965 Mr. RPM Aero Commander 680FL(P) For Sale > > > > See the pictures and get the info at: > > > > http://www.southwestcirrus.com/n400ch/index.htm > > > > She's a great girl and a blast to fly, but it's time to make room in the > > hangar for a 690! > > > > Brock Lorber > > 702-510-7728 > > N400CH > > > > > >