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                           Commander-List Digest Archive
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                     Total Messages Posted Tue 12/27/05: 5
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Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:05 PM - Shrike  (BillLeff1@aol.com)
     2. 06:55 PM - Re: Recurrent training  (Bill Bow)
     3. 07:23 PM - ZOCHE diesel  (Dan Farmer)
     4. 10:00 PM - Weight & balance - tail flasher  (Tom Fisher)
     5. 11:53 PM - Re: Weight & balance - tail flasher  (BillLeff1@aol.com)
 
 
 
________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 06:05:56 PM PST US
From: BillLeff1@aol.com
Subject: Commander-List: Shrike

--> Commander-List message posted by: BillLeff1@aol.com

As promised: Why is a 500S called a Shrike?
 
Some time ago I was in a long layover at Chicago Miegs Field (yes before if  
was dug up by the mayor !) While I was killing time I went to The Field Museum

 (for the 4000th time, I have been going to that airport since 1972 on a 
regular  basis).
 
Since I had run out of things I was interested in to look at the museum, I  
decided to  Aviary and look at birds ( I was really board!) As I was  looking 
at the thousands of birds on display a SHRIKE jumped out at me. So, I  read 
about Shrikes.
 
In the description if the shrike it said "A Shrike is a little Hawk" Mostly  
because it hunts like one.
 
Since the 681 Turbo Commander was a "Hawk" then a 500S is a "Little  Hawk"! 
 
That is the official Ornithological description of a Shrike.
 
 
Happy new year!
 
Bill Leff
 







 
 
 


________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 06:55:36 PM PST US
From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Recurrent training

--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>

Very interesting.  Both of them.

bilbo

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of css nico
Subject: Commander-List: Recurrent training

--> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>

Ha Ha Ha. That's funny, Bill. Happens to me all the time.

I have the video where you flew the Orenda Aero Commander. I assume that's
you. What happened to the Orenda project?

http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/Aero%20Comma
nder%20Orenda%20Engine/

Have you ever had a look at the Zoche's? http://www.zoche.de/
Sounds exciting and it appears as if they are well funded and eager to
complete this project.

Thanks
Nico


----- Original Message -----
From: <BillLeff1@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Recurrent training


> --> Commander-List message posted by: BillLeff1@aol.com
>
> This is typical CRM training.
>
> From: "Greg Vail" <greg@bloomingtonavionics.com>
> To: <greg@bloomingtonavionics.com>
> Subject: FW: I've been flying
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:01:04 -0600
>
>
> Just want you to know I've been flying a lot
>
> http://worteldrie.com/flash/emergency.swf
>
>
> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" nameGENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
>
>
> Just want you to know
> I've been flying a lot
>
> http://worteldrie.com/flash/emergency.swf
>
>







 
 
 









 
 
 


________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 07:23:46 PM PST US
From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Commander-List: ZOCHE diesel

--> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>

Not to burst any bubbles but my first awareness of the zoche diesel goes back to
1993.  There web site is as vague on production now as it was 12 years ago.
Great theory--wheres the beef?
   
  dan







 
 
 


________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 10:00:59 PM PST US
From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Subject: Commander-List: Weight & balance - tail flasher

--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>

Gentlemen,

I am about to do a weight and balance on my bird, any comments?
I also have determined that the "Aero Signal" flashing unit for my
rudder/tail red light is unserviceable.  Rather than replace it I should
take this opportunity to put in a strobe, any comments or STC's for this
application?

Tom F.
C-GISS 680 FLP (Mr.RPM)

----- Original Message -----
From: <BillLeff1@aol.com>
Subject: Commander-List: Recurrent training


> --> Commander-List message posted by: BillLeff1@aol.com
>
> This is typical CRM training.
>
> From: "Greg Vail" <greg@bloomingtonavionics.com>
> To: <greg@bloomingtonavionics.com>
> Subject: FW: I've been flying
> Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:01:04 -0600
>
>
> Just want you to know I've been flying a lot
>
> http://worteldrie.com/flash/emergency.swf
>
>
> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" nameGENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
>
>
> Just want you to know
> I've been flying a lot
>
> http://worteldrie.com/flash/emergency.swf
>
>







 
 
 


________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 11:53:02 PM PST US
From: BillLeff1@aol.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & balance - tail flasher

--> Commander-List message posted by: BillLeff1@aol.com

Add weight, as necessaryto the tail bulkhead, the to move the CG to the  rear 
limit with one pilot on board and minimum fuel. Also, check with various  
fuel loads to verify that you do not ever go out of the aft limit.
 
 This will  significantly improve the handling, and improve  performance by 
reducing trim drag. 
 
Bill Leff